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Modi's bravado ups the ante in India-Pakistan fighting

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@Chinese-Dragon

I told you, they'll 'man up' to Pakistan after losing face to PLA.

PLA should poke them again so we can collective judge the quantam of their 'two front war' theory.

The problem for them is that the balance of power on the border has not changed, and the chances of India winning a two-front war against China and Pakistan combined is still extremely low.

So Modi wants to play a fine balancing act.

He wants to take an aggressive stance on the border issues, to differentiate him from his predecessors and to answer the attacks on him by his opposition.

BUT he cannot push too far, since if he accidentally does trigger this much talked about two-front war, he'll realize very quickly that the balance of power on the border is overwhelmingly in our favor.

Also, while both China and India have "No First Use" nuclear policies (which makes a conventional war very possible), Pakistan does not have such a policy, so any India-Pakistan War will inevitably escalate to a point where the nuclear option is on the table.
 
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Also, while both China and India have "No First Use" nuclear policies (which makes a conventional war very possible), Pakistan does not have such a policy, so any India-Pakistan War will inevitably escalate to a point where the nuclear option is on the table.
India does not obey NFU in respect to nuclear capable nations .
 
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The problem for them is that the balance of power on the border has not changed, and the chances of India winning a two-front war against China and Pakistan combined is still extremely low.

So Modi wants to play a fine balancing act.

He wants to take an aggressive stance on the border issues, to differentiate him from his predecessors and to answer the attacks on him by his opposition.

BUT he cannot push too far, since if he accidentally does trigger this much talked about two-front war, he'll realize very quickly that the balance of power on the border is overwhelmingly in our favor.

Also, while both China and India have "No First Use" nuclear policies (which makes a conventional war very possible), Pakistan does not have such a policy, so any India-Pakistan War will inevitably escalate to a point where the nuclear option is on the table.

Your quest of getting along with pakistanis have muted your common sense.

Give me one benefit for India by putting kashmir issue in limelight and on international front. However go on archives and you will find traditional increase in ceasefire violation in month of oct before snow blocks all passes.
 
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Our 'ambiguity' on Nuclear warfare is a carefully drafted strategy with full knowledge of Beijing. China and Pakistan play chicken with India, therefore the force posture towards India has to be diverse as well. We cannot adopt a singular approach towards India. ;)

We are keeping quiet and smashing the border as per our will. Let India do the talking....
 
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India does not obey NFU in respect to nuclear capable nations .

We have the same caveat in our No First Use clause actually. :lol:

In any case, India's total nuclear arsenal is only about 1 megaton combined, made up mostly of fission devices.

Whereas a single Chinese thermonuclear warhead is around 4 megatons EACH. Which means one single Chinese nuke has more destructive power than India's entire arsenal.

Also, India's capital city (and populated Ganges river delta) is right next to the Chinese border. Whereas our coastal region is thousands of kilometers away from the Indian border.

And if there is ANY idea amongst the Chinese leadership that India will resort to the nuclear option against us, we will have no choice but to commit to preemptive strikes in order to disable India's ability to launch nukes. This means that in a India-Pakistan nuclear war, if there is any hint of India using nukes against us, we will have to hit them first to disable their ability to launch.

The result being another two-front situation that India will not come out of very well.
 
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Our 'ambiguity' on Nuclear warfare is a carefully drafted strategy with full knowledge of Beijing. China and Pakistan play chicken with India, therefore the force posture towards India has to be diverse as well. We cannot adopt a singular approach towards India. ;)

We are keeping quiet and smashing the border as per our will. Let India do the talking....

Everything is approved by Beijing NO?
 
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We have the same caveat in our No First Use clause actually. :lol:

In any case, India's total nuclear arsenal is only about 1 megaton combined, made up mostly of fission devices.

Whereas a single Chinese thermonuclear warhead is around 4 megatons EACH. Which means one single Chinese nuke has more destructive power than India's entire arsenal.

Also, India's capital city (and populated Ganges river delta) is right next to the Chinese border. Whereas our coastal region is thousands of kilometers away from the Indian border.

And if there is ANY idea amongst the Chinese leadership that India will resort to the nuclear option against us, we will have no choice but to commit to preemptive strikes in order to disable India's ability to launch nukes. This means that in a India-Pakistan nuclear war, if there is any hint of India using nukes against us, we will have to hit them first to disable their ability to launch.

The result being another two-front situation that India will not come out of very well.

So much of laymen thinking. Are you aware of that 1 MT in 4 bombs will make more damage than a single bomb of 4 MT?
 
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Our 'ambiguity' on Nuclear warfare is a carefully drafted strategy with full knowledge of Beijing. China and Pakistan play chicken with India, therefore the force posture towards India has to be diverse as well. We cannot adopt a singular approach towards India. ;)

We are keeping quiet and smashing the border as per our will. Let India do the talking....

You are unnecessarily comparing your country with China.. They do not care for you nor going to fight for you.. We have a no fire agreement with Chinese in border areas.. Chinese knows very well that unless they fire at us, we are not going to attack them.. This what give them confidence.. We also know that after some picnic they will go back..Your assessment is just foolish but you accept the fact that you cannot single handedly take on India..
 
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Our 'ambiguity' on Nuclear warfare is a carefully drafted strategy with full knowledge of Beijing. China and Pakistan play chicken with India, therefore the force posture towards India has to be diverse as well. We cannot adopt a singular approach towards India. ;)

We are keeping quiet and smashing the border as per our will. Let India do the talking....

Zhongnanhai coordinates very closely with Islamabad on regional security issues, there is no question about that.

Everything is approved by Beijing NO?

Coordination, not approval. We are not like the ex-colonial powers who have vassal states, our diplomatic relations are based on equal partnerships.
 
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Our 'ambiguity' on Nuclear warfare is a carefully drafted strategy with full knowledge of Beijing. China and Pakistan play chicken with India, therefore the force posture towards India has to be diverse as well. We cannot adopt a singular approach towards India. ;)

We are keeping quiet and smashing the border as per our will. Let India do the talking....

You can play chicken, pork, lamb whatever, we can keep occupying your land. ;)

We!! hahaha must be giving you some bravado.

@seiko
When @Horus says "we" - it means Pak + US before and pak + China now.

However older combo failed to get them anything, what you can expect of new one when both parties lost land to Indian "imperialism" and can do heck in 6 decades.
 
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Our 'ambiguity' on Nuclear warfare is a carefully drafted strategy with full knowledge of Beijing. China and Pakistan play chicken with India, therefore the force posture towards India has to be diverse as well. We cannot adopt a singular approach towards India. ;)

We are keeping quiet and smashing the border as per our will. Let India do the talking....

as on pakistan and the state at which it is in, pakistan has very limited option against india and pretty much can do nothing. pakistan has no choice but to accept india as a dominant state in south asia or risk further isolation.

@Chinesedragon

and china and pak are never together against india. any such mis calculation on part of china would put india firmly in japan-us-Australia camp that can spell doom for china, moreover with the democracy marchs that going in china, china is in very vulnerable state. then there is the question of trade of $100 b and mega market for chinese investment
 
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as on pakistan and the state at which it is in, pakistan has very limited option against india and pretty much can do nothing. pakistan has no choice but to accept india as a dominant state in south asia or risk further isolation.

@Chinesedragon

and china and pak are never together against india. any such mis calculation on part of china would put india firmly in japan-us-Australia camp that can spell doom for china, moreover with the democracy marchs that going in china, china is in very vulnerable state. then there is the question of trade of $100 b and mega market for chinese investment

So you agree that these so-called "Chinese incursions" never happened?

Like I said, Modi may be in power now, but the balance of power on the border has not changed.

Modi is trying to push his luck, and he is going to inadvertently trigger another Forward Policy.
 
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