Modified versions of Nag missile carrier to be tested soon

[RPK]

Business Line : Industry & Economy News : Modified versions of Nag missile carrier to be tested soon


HYDERABAD, APRIL 10:
NAMICA, the Nag missile carrier, built to destroy battle tanks for the Indian Army will undergo crucial tests in the toughest of war theatres -- the deserts of Rajasthan soon.

Two totally modified versions, built by private sector L&T and public sector BEL will be put through trials in June-July, according to Mr Avinash Chander, Chief Controller (missiles & strategic sectors), Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

The tests would be done with the Nag guided missile for different ranges. The objective is to get it cleared for initial induction into the Army. The trials would be for 2,4 kms and minimum of 500 metres as per the needs of the user.

Nag is a third generation, anti-battle tank, fire and forget missile. It has been modified with the very latest hit capabilities. In the 4 km range, for example, it is being equipped with a lock on before launch system. There is no competitor globally for this range, with this capability at present. The US missile in the similar class can destroy targets up to 2.5 km.

 

[OrionHunter]

This one is the land version having a range from 500m to 4km. Nag has been configured to be used on the Advanced Light Helicopter(ALH) and the HAL Light Combat Helicopter(LCH). This version will be known as HELINA (HELIcopter NAg). Eight missiles are carried in two quadruple launchers. Launchers mounted on either side are linked to a nose-mounted stabilized thermal sight and a laser range-finder package.

The guidance system is Active Imaging infra-red (IIR) seeker and millimetric wave (mmW) seeker.

It is interesting to note that DRDL plans to extend the range of the HELINA anti-armour missile into a >20km range strike munition. HELINA project director KS Vara Prasad has indicated that his team is building a "miniaturised inertial navigation package" to enhance the existing weapon without adding weight or too much cost.

HELINA

Nag missile with the NAMICA in the background

 

[BordoEnes]

I will be honest at first i thought the indian attack helo was a piece of crap since i thought it wouldnt use Guided missiles but gues i was wrong, Its going to turn out a great helo i dare to predict

 

[angeldemon_007]

Does anybody has seen how the new NAMICA looks ???

 

[Tshering22]

Does anybody has seen how the new NAMICA looks ???

Well PSUs haven't been exactly photo friendly till date have they? The only quality pictures that we manage to get is from members who click digital pics from their cameras or cell phones. If you visit any sarkari site, they'd show you those grainy, grid visible blurred pics that would ruin the actual looks of it.

 

[SP!TF!R3]

Namica was tested and waited for almost 8-9 years for Nag's clearance..but after Nag got clearance,IA wanted to redesign Namica..these are unnecessary delays.when Namica'll operationalize,Nag'll become almost obsolate.

 

[Tshering22]

I will be honest at first i thought the indian attack helo was a piece of crap since i thought it wouldnt use Guided missiles but gues i was wrong, Its going to turn out a great helo i dare to predict

LCH is actually supposed to be for extremely high altitudes (by helicopter standards) since our battlefields are typically the highest on the planet.

I can understand your earlier since most foreigners were not aware of LCH's role. But it is built on the base of a very solid performing helicopter (Dhruv) which is field proven in the most hostile environments on earth (Thar desert, Leh and Siachen in J&K, here in my state of Sikkim, in humid regions of south India etc). So it is bound to be pretty multi-terrain capable.

 

[acetophenol]

I will be happy if lch and rudra carry helina in quadraple launchers(like in apache] along with rocket pods in the other hardpoints rather than the current config of one helina per hardpoint. Can anyone clarify this?

 

[SP!TF!R3]

I will be happy if lch and rudra carry helina in quadraple launchers(like in apache] along with rocket pods in the other hardpoints rather than the current config of one helina per hardpoint. Can anyone clarify this?

Nag will be configured to be used on the Advanced Light Helicopter(ALH) and the HAL Light Combat Helicopter(LCH). This version will be known as HELINA (HELIcopter NAg). Eight missiles are carried in two quadruple launchers. Launchers mounted on either side are linked to a nose-mounted stabilized thermal sight and a laser range-finder package.

Nag (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Sergi]

But I Really doubt LCH will be used in high altitude battle. It will be mostly Russian mi17 and apache doing the job in that area. LCH will be potentially used in desert part of India along Pak boarder in case of war. Mostly anti armour and close air support package for troops and our armour.

I read some rumours about army not happy about the air speed of LCH. 20/25 km lower speed than army requirement

This one is the land version having a range from 500m to 4km. Nag has been configured to be used on the Advanced Light Helicopter(ALH) and the HAL Light Combat Helicopter(LCH). This version will be known as HELINA (HELIcopter NAg). Eight missiles are carried in two quadruple launchers. Launchers mounted on either side are linked to a nose-mounted stabilized thermal sight and a laser range-finder package.

The guidance system is Active Imaging infra-red (IIR) seeker and millimetric wave (mmW) seeker.

It is interesting to note that DRDL plans to extend the range of the HELINA anti-armour missile into a >20km range strike munition. HELINA project director KS Vara Prasad has indicated that his team is building a "miniaturised inertial navigation package" to enhance the existing weapon without adding weight or too much cost.

HELINA

Nag missile with the NAMICA in the background

I thought mmW seeker is not ready yet. Is it ?

I will be honest at first i thought the indian attack helo was a piece of crap since i thought it wouldnt use Guided missiles but gues i was wrong, Its going to turn out a great helo i dare to predict

Unguided missile can also bring hell down too. Most of heli carry unguided missiles too. Mainly for clearing blockhead. Anyways missile is not only thing that make a heli good or bad. A lot of things like avionics,design,speed even the gun/ cannon makes the difference

 

[acetophenol]

But I Really doubt LCH will be used in high altitude battle. It will be mostly Russian mi17 and apache doing the job in that area. LCH will be potentially used in desert part of India along Pak boarder in case of war. Mostly anti armour and close air support package for troops and our armour.

I read some rumours about army not happy about the air speed of LCH. 20/25 km on lower speed than army requirement

But I Really doubt LCH will be used in high altitude battle. It will be mostly Russian mi17 and apache doing the job in that area. LCH will be potentially used in desert part of India along Pak boarder in case of war. Mostly anti armour and close air support package for troops and our armour.

I read some rumours about army not happy about the air speed of LCH. 20/25 km on lower speed than army requirement



I thought mmW seeker is not ready yet. Is it ?

Lch will be used in really high altitude conditions including siachin,leh etc.
Lch is based on dhruv which has the capability to do so. Infact the plan to use the chopper in 'high conditions' from IAF resulted in HAL shifting from Light Attack Helicopter (LAH] to Light Combat Helicopter [LCH],which has air-to-air capability given by french AAMs with 6 km range.

Apaches will be replacing mi-24/35s and will be used in desert areas.

 

[sancho]

I will be honest at first i thought the indian attack helo was a piece of crap since i thought it wouldnt use Guided missiles but gues i was wrong, Its going to turn out a great helo i dare to predict

Actually there was never any doubt about that, since it will have the same weapon pack as Rudra with many guided missiles on offer or evaluation:

LAHAT light ATGM

HELINA ATGMweapon tests

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Rafael fires Spike missiles in Indian evaluation

Lockheed Offered HAL Longbow Hellfire For Weaponised Dhruv

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So the question was never if a guided missiles will be integrated, but which one of those that are on offer.

 

[BordoEnes]

Thanks for replies guys, But as you may realized my knowledge on indian defence industry details is a little limited since i am more specialized and focused in Turkish defence industry. So i know i sound like a total noob to you guys

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Thanks for replies guys, But as you may realized my knowledge on indian defence industry details is a little limited since i am more specialized and focused in Turkish defence industry. So i know i sound like a total noob to you guys

Not in the least. Actually thanks to fellow members like you from Turkiye, we are getting to know about the Turkish defence industry too.

 

[Tshering22]

But I Really doubt LCH will be used in high altitude battle. It will be mostly Russian mi17 and apache doing the job in that area.

Mi-17s cannot be sent to that altitude. The reason why Mils didn't fare well in Kargil was because of the high ceiling of combat needed. The whole reason for LCH to develop was high altitudes mate.

LCH will be potentially used in desert part of India along Pak boarder in case of war. Mostly anti armour and close air support package for troops and our armour.

Possible man, possible. But high altitude is the prime concerns.

I read some rumours about army not happy about the air speed of LCH. 20/25 km lower speed than army requirement

Army has already ordered 114 of it. The IA and IAF need to grow up and allow a first time product to evolve in batches. They're like 5 yr olds.

IMO to ensure confirmed inductions, IAF and IA should be banned for the next 10 years to acquire any foreign gunships other than the current orders.