Modi minus RSS: Time for BJP to ditch social as well as economic agenda of Hindu right

[Soumitra]

Now the entire media is anti-BJP? Most of the media were very critical of the Cong government and supportive to BJP just less than a year ago, forgot that? Even to day most of them are supportive to the BJP government barring the religious matters.



Exactly that's what it is. They are trying to act as an extra-constitutional government.



That someone is either BJP MP or someone from the Sangh Parivaar, apparently with a say in the government. Media was an ally of BJP before the election, don't make it an enemy now.



Right wing economy that RSS is pitching for is 'swadeshi', a very left kind of model.



Agreed, especially Kejriwal is a shrewd imposter.

Media is NEVER pro BJP. Do you think Sagarika Ghosh, Barkha Dutts, Rajdeep Sardesai, Vinod Mehta N Ram are Pro BJP? Are you seriously an Indian? Or have you closed your eyes and ears

 

[Ind4Ever]

Hinduism is not an agenda ! IT'S OUR IDENTITY . Every single hindu will stand up for their right and pride .

Just keep dreaming about wiping hinduism ! If hinduism is established within and outside india it will propell our humanity and prosperity . We won't be having terrorist killing in the name of God !

 

[Nicky G]

Childish attempt to try to drive a wedge. Not happening.

I always laugh at people who arrogantly claim that the only reason that people voted for BJP was this or that. Any stats to back up the claim? Obviously not, its just people's bias shining through.

 

[Ind4Ever]

Every one failed trying ! It just took few months to convert Afghanistan completely into Islamic State but even after 700 years of Muslims invasion andatrocities and 300 years of Christian invasion and slavery HERE WE ARE ! STANDING TALL AND HANDSOME . CHALLENGING the super powers .

 

[magudi]

Now the entire media is anti-BJP? Most of the media were very critical of the Cong government and supportive to BJP just less than a year ago, forgot that? Even to day most of them are supportive to the BJP government barring the religious matters.

That's farce anyone whose been following the media for past 5 years or so would know how soft they were to Congress even with all their scams scandals and policy paralysis.Indian Media is left leaning wannabie BBC types and were never pro bjp.

Exactly that's what it is. They are trying to act as an extra-constitutional government
.

So you mean Congress didn't have a parallel extra constitutional body that dictated its agenda?


National Advisory Council - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Think thanks like NAC with extreme leftist minded rabid socialists were always a part of UPA setup and dictated their discourse

Hell NAC even drafted the most hypocritical communal violence bill which Congress sought to pass. Atleast RSS doesn't draft bills.

Other than beef ban in Maharashtra (which is a 13 year old bill that awaited president's approval) and in haryana (which was already banned for decades just the jail term increased) what other RSS dictated policies have the government enforced on you?

That someone is either BJP MP or someone from the Sangh Parivaar, apparently with a say in the government. Media was an ally of BJP before the election, don't make it an enemy now.

Agreed. But that was expected. Bjp coming to power will obviously embolden such elements. Anyway it's toning down and hope they're sidelined

Right wing economy that RSS is pitching for is 'swadeshi', a very left kind of model.

Can you enlist what 'swadeshi' left kind economic policies have Modi government enacted so far?

Agreed, especially Kejriwal is a shrewd imposter.

AK is a shrewd politician not imposter he was able to bag in almost all anti bjo votes.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

If the PM is/was a member of some organization, that doesn't give that organization the right to interfere in the governance, neither they should be allowed to have any say in the government as an extra-constitutional body.

True. Modi is motivated. I trust him.

 

[dray]

Media is NEVER pro BJP. Do you think Sagarika Ghosh, Barkha Dutts, Rajdeep Sardesai, Vinod Mehta N Ram are Pro BJP? Are you seriously an Indian? Or have you closed your eyes and ears

Since the Commonwealth Game scandal, media has covered each and every scam and scandal and protest against corruption in an unprecedented manner, just see how much media attention Anna's campaign received back then compared to his recent efforts! And TOI has recently got into your 'evil media' list, right? It's not like that only Sanghis want good for the country and rest are enemies of the nation, you are free to think otherwise though.

That's farce anyone whose been following the media for past 5 years or so would know how soft they were to Congress even with all their scams scandals and policy paralysis.Indian Media is left leaning wannabie BBC types and were never pro bjp.

That allegation is far from the reality. As I said above, media coverage about both corruption and non-governance of the previous Congress government was unprecedented. It's unfortunate that the same media is being seen as an enemy by the Sanghis, maybe BJP also, for questioning against certain Hindutva effort and some trash talk by some insensitive idiots. It is an unfortunate development that will harm BJP and BJP is responsible for that.

So you mean Congress didn't have a parallel extra constitutional body that dictated its agenda?


National Advisory Council - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Think thanks like NAC with extreme leftist minded rabid socialists were always a part of UPA setup and dictated their discourse

Hell NAC even drafted the most hypocritical communal violence bill which Congress sought to pass. Atleast RSS doesn't draft bills.

Other than beef ban in Maharashtra (which is a 13 year old bill that awaited president's approval) and in haryana (which was already banned for decades just the jail term increased) what other RSS dictated policies have the government enforced on you?

You are right, and that's what I am saying! Previous Congress government had a parallel extra constitutional body that dictated its agenda, and that was the cause of their failure, otherwise MMS wouldn't have done that bad if he was free to act as a PM. Same goes for RSS. At least Sonia Gandhi was also the president of Congress, Mohan Bhagwat & Co. is not even that.

The worst thing RSS and its associates have done so far is shifting the focus of the nation from development and good work of the government to the issues of religious intolerance and hatred, which has helped the fragmented opposition immensely by providing a common ground to unite against the government and hamper the workings of the government. All the arms & ammunition being hurled at the government has been provided by the Sanghis.

Agreed. But that was expected. Bjp coming to power will obviously embolden such elements. Anyway it's toning down and hope they're sidelined

Government must make them tone down, rather just shut them up. But I am not seeing much result.

Can you enlist what 'swadeshi' left kind economic policies have Modi government enacted so far?

Modi did not, and that's better. But I thought you were for the RSS version of the economic policies, which is basically leftist 'swadeshi' economy.

AK is a shrewd politician not imposter he was able to bag in almost all anti bjo votes.

AK's 'Aam Admi' image, his 'muffler', his 'having tea in a road side stall', his 'austerity', his 'no-VIP' stance, his 'traveling by metro', his promise for 'clean politics', everything is a farce, a carefully created false image, that's why he is an imposter.

True. Modi is motivated. I trust him.

Needs more work!

 

[Nicky G]

Since the Commonwealth Game scandal, media has covered each and every scam and scandal and protest against corruption in an unprecedented manner, just see how much media attention Anna's campaign received back then compared to his recent efforts! And TOI has recently got into your 'evil media' list, right? It's not like that only Sanghis want good for the country and rest are enemies of the nation, you are free to think otherwise though.

That allegation is far from the reality. As I said above, media coverage about both corruption and non-governance of the previous Congress government was unprecedented. It's unfortunate that the same media is being seen as an enemy by the Sanghis, maybe BJP also, for questioning against certain Hindutva effort and some trash talk by some insensitive idiots. It is an unfortunate development that will harm BJP and BJP is responsible for that.

Not each and every scam and certainly not each scam with the same ferocity. Let me know how many media houses directly attacked Gandhi family as they have done Modi.

Moreover, the bias in the media is more on idealogical grounds than political. Worse, its on communal grounds. Its patently anti-Hindu. There are scores of instances to substantiate this claim. A recent one, two sadhvis have been gang-raped in Bengal post the nun incident, please show me comparable outrage.

How many temples have been raided or looted compared to churches or mosques? Why no outrage there?

The outrage in media is entirely selective based on their agenda. You'd have to closed your eyes and ears to not acknowledge simple facts.

 

[dray]

Not each and every scam and certainly not each scam with the same ferocity. Let me know how many media houses directly attacked Gandhi family as they have done Modi.

Moreover, the bias in the media is more on idealogical grounds than political. Worse, its on communal grounds. Its patently anti-Hindu. There are scores of instances to substantiate this claim. A recent one, two sadhvis have been gang-raped in Bengal post the nun incident, please show me comparable outrage.

How many temples have been raided or looted compared to churches or mosques? Why no outrage there?

The outrage in media is entirely selective based on their agenda. You'd have to closed your eyes and ears to not acknowledge simple facts.

Let's agree to disagree.

And the media attention on nun rape case and church attacks are because of the built up of a very anti-minority image of the government which is a result of the continuous bombardment of inflammatory speeches by the Sanghis since BJP won the election. Even after the nun rape case there were statements like 'Christians exploit their nuns' or 'expect more church attacks', after that what do you expect?

 

[Nicky G]

Let's agree to disagree.

And the media attention on nun rape case and church attacks are because of the built up of a very anti-minority image of the government which is a result of the continuous bombardment of inflammatory speeches by the Sanghis since BJP won the election. Even after the nun rape case there were statements like 'Christians exploit their nuns' or 'expect more church attacks', after that what do you expect?

Suit yourself, though your rationalize for why gang-rapes of sadhvis or vandalization of temples are not covered is scarily weak. Merely because of an image which has nothing to back it up, the media ignores the plight of people merely because they are from the majority community? That's the definition of communal.

In my humble opinion, you need to seriously look at facts and reflect on your interpretations.

 

[Echo_419]

1. The day BJP take advice from its haters (ToI, The Hindu, NDTV et al) would be the day the day it would be a dead party.

2. RSS is not a parasitic leech to BJP. It provides cadre support for BJP.

3. In a country of India's size,there would always be someone somewhere making an inflammatory speech somewhere . Media makes a circus of it because they are anti-BJP.

4. The whole idea of ditching right wing economics is ridiculous. Author is advocating for India to forever remain a country where freeloading is a norm.

5. The whole idea of innovative techniques of AAP is a joke. They adopted same tactics that is adopted by left parties. Success of AAP has more to do with "haramkhor" attitude of working class of Delhi which want everything for free.

You are right about the Haramkhoro part

Modi minus RSS: Time for BJP to ditch social as well as economic agenda of Hindu right
February 20, 2015, 12:08 am IST TOI Edit in TOI Editorials | Edit Page | TOI

Prime Minister Narendra Modi won the national election on a platform of modernity, good governance and economic change — which is at significant variance with the cultural as well as economic agenda of RSS and affiliated far right organisations. Contradictions were subsumed during the heat and dust of the election campaign by a national clamour for change. But it has become the biggest diversion for Modi`s government in its first few months.

This is why his speech reiterating freedom of religion in India this week was so important: it indicated a clear crossing of the Rubicon. That RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat also chose to emphasise in the same week that `our mothers are not baby-making factories’ and VHP leaders cautioned their followers to make ‘balanced statements’ which won’t ‘trouble the government’ suggests concerted messaging. This is a welcome shift. But the internal challenge for Modi is more fundamental.

Now some Sangh-related outfits are even joining hands with the Left to agitate against what they call the government’s ‘anti-poor’ and ‘anti-farmer’ policies. Basically there is a fundamental dichotomy between the promise of a modernist, aspirational India that drew so many new voters to BJP in 2014 and the obscurantist and Luddite notions of society and economy that still typify most of the Sangh. Modi’s challenge is that much of BJP’s traditional constituency, as opposed to the new voters who joined its electoral juggernaut in the past year, comes from RSS cadres. However, these voters have nowhere to go but BJP. To appease them BJP must not alienate a larger segment of new, aspirational voters who have been won over by Modi’s promise of development and modernity.

In that sense, to truly deliver on his electoral promises, it is time for the PM and BJP to cut the umbilical cord with the Sangh. Pushing forward on the second wave of economic reforms and ending socially divisive rhetoric require such a move to go beyond the politics of ritual assurances. BJP needs to structurally reduce RSS influence on the party and expand its own cadre independent of the Sangh. A BJP minus the Sangh would have greater political leeway. To shore up its organisational strength and grassroots connect, it would do well to borrow some of the innovative political mobilisation techniques that AAP has pioneered in recent times.

This piece appeared as an editorial opinion in the print edition of The Times of India.

Modi minus RSS: Time for BJP to ditch social as well as economic agenda of Hindu right - TOI Blogs

Complete BS just becuz a few fat right elements make idiotic comments doesn't mean we should break off with the right

 

[The_Showstopper]

You are right about the Haramkhoro part

Well the same "Haraamkhors" once voted for BJP... Any answers why?

 

[dray]

Suit yourself, though your rationalize for why gang-rapes of sadhvis or vandalization of temples are not covered is scarily weak. Merely because of an image which has nothing to back it up, the media ignores the plight of people merely because they are from the majority community? That's the definition of communal.

In my humble opinion, you need to seriously look at facts and reflect on your interpretations.

Because it is being perceived that the dacoities/attacks on churches have something to do with the central government's silent approval, and none but Sanghis are responsible for creating such a perception. Modi as such didn't do anything to earn such a perception, but he didn't do enough to stop the trash talks of some morons, which is now hurting the government.

Complete BS just becuz a few fat right elements make idiotic comments doesn't mean we should break off with the right

They are not restricting themselves to 'commenting' only.

 

[lightoftruth]

Atal Bihari Vajpayee in his performa declaration when he was PM wrote party name as RSS/BJP and he was never RSS pracharak.

 

[Nicky G]

Because it is being perceived that the dacoities/attacks on churches have something to do with the central government's silent approval, and none but Sanghis are responsible for creating such a perception. Modi as such didn't do anything to earn such a perception, but he didn't do enough to stop the trash talks of some morons, which is now hurting the government.

Beautiful, so attack on Churches is because of 'silent approval' of center? Whose silent approval does the attack on temples or rapes of sadhivs have? I am sure you don't wish to get into that, or perhaps because Hindus are targets, its not a communal act and Indians in general are to be blamed?

Also, get real, no one takes the media and their poor propaganda seriously. Its too inconsequential to hurt any image of GoI in the larger scheme of things. Its mostly economic issues that make difference in polls. In fact, the more the media and other agents cry wolf, the less effective this tactics becomes as it simply loses its shock value. Also, the more you attack the majority community, the more you awaken them to facts. SM does a wonderful job in this regard.

Its also curious that its the center you seek to blame for what happens in Bengal and not Mamta who is responsible for law and order in her state.

You yet again do not address how is covering one act of sexual violence and not other based on the religion not a communal act? Perhaps you don't wish to address that, its your call.