Modi in Sheikh Zayed Mosque UAE

[Ragnar]

Bhai seedha sadha bol na Darinder Moodi sux

You go too far. Shah is watching these forums and will fry your nuts in shuddh desi ghee.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Non muslims in india can visit shrines of sufis,which is their graves and taj mahal which is again a masoleum,but the proper masjids,they cannot visit.It is off limits,story is similar for temples too,churches are what anyone can go to.

you are missing the whole point,even if see indian muslims as the enemy,they are indeed the enemy and u can make peace with the enemy and let go,it has happened a lot in the past.

You people are only good in oppressing your own race whether because of their religion, caste, or colour become irrelevant. I dont mind if people go to worship places of others with the intention of visiting them because of their historical significance or to appreciate architecture without disturbing the religious activities in that church, mosques, temple or gurdawara etc

But the real battle is with the left wingers,sickulars,the inherent cancer of hinduism and buddha was the original sickular who reacted to problems in life and everything starts from then.

How do you blame secularism ? You think Hinduism is not compatible with secularism or this act of Hindu nationalist Modi to to visit this mosques was sicukular act.

Modi is not a baniya.

he was chai wala i know lol i used word baniya in sense that he will do everything for money so stepping inside the mosque in arab land whom HIndus dont see in good light was for economic or political advantage..pure baniya act

all hindus are evil baniya. dont u know that?

Words of a wise man

 

[Sid N]

You people are only good in oppressing your own race whether because of their religion, caste, or colour become irrelevant. I dont mind if people go to worship places of others with the intention of visiting them because of their historical significance or to appreciate architecture without disturbing the religious activities in that church, mosques, temple or gurdawara etc

How do you blame secularism ? You think Hinduism is not compatible with secularism or this act of Hindu nationalist Modi to to visit this mosques was sicukular act.

he was chai wala i know lol i used word baniya in sense that he will do everything for money so stepping inside the mosque in arab land whom HIndus dont see in good light was for economic or political advantage..pure baniya act


Words of a wise man

Bro,which muslims thinks he is of the same race as others.Come here and talk to them,do you think that yourself?

Most of the muslims here think they are all arabs.

Anyway,i have no issues going to a masjid to see around because hindus dont think theirs is the only religion,they are cool with any spiritual path people take.

 

[Mohd. Kamran]

Bro,which muslims thinks he is of the same race as others.Come here and talk to them,do you think that yourself?

Most of the muslims here think they are all arabs.

Anyway,i have no issues going to a masjid to see around because hindus dont think theirs is the only religion,they are cool with any spiritual path people take.

Another victim of stupid Indian media. We are muslim of Al-hind and not arabs.

 

[Sid N]

mohd kamran

bohoth log kehte hain aisa,and the country is called bharat.Al hind kya hain?

 

[The_Showstopper]

Sorry bro.
Some Mosques wont allow non muslims but that is in only our South Asia .But some others are open to others .Not all of them are like that.But all of that is based on petty politics in our nation.

Respected Arab officials and businessmen that visting our nation dont have any issue to perform our Indian traditions as a goodwill gesture.But our own politicians cant follow their own Indian tradition.All of these just based on petty politics.

Nothing serious.

Why not name a few of those Indian mosques which won't allow non-muslims and please support your claims of course with proper sources?

Do the 200 million or so Indian Muslims not allow non-Muslims access to mosques in India? I am asking because you allude to this being the case which is a surprise for me.

Non-Muslims are welcome to visit any mosque in the Arab world. From Morocco to Oman. Millions of non-Muslim tourists are visiting all the historical mosques in the Arab world with the exception of Makkah and Madinah.

The beautiful Sheikh Zayed Grand Mosque has been visited by numerous non-Muslim leaders and personalities. It's completely normal.

In many Arab countries you can find mosques and churches next to each other. Millions of Arabs are Christians too. Let alone the Arab Jews of which most live in Israel today. Or the Atheists.

Non-Muslims are welcome in all mosques that I have visited in Europe too.

Strange behavior if true.

No mate, this guy seems to be misinformed. There is no such thing as no-entry to non-muslims in Indian mosques.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Bro,which muslims thinks he is of the same race as others.Come here and talk to them,do you think that yourself?

Most of the muslims here think they are all arabs.

Anyway,i have no issues going to a masjid to see around because hindus dont think theirs is the only religion,they are cool with any spiritual path people take.

Who told you this? Hinduvata guys who equate Arab=Muslim or confuse race with religion. You know basically when some local people embraced Islam then your hinduvadi felt ashamed and disassociate them for being native people and started calling them traitor and outsiders and dalits etc because they adopted new religion and took pride in Islam

No, I am not arab and my ancestors are native people of photohar region of Pakistan with no origin or link with arab, Persia or whatsoever. I am not denying there are few people who claim to be syed in pakistan but they are tiny bit of our population ..just because Muslim feel pride in Islam or are loyal to Islam don't make them arab. Its most stupid things i ever heard from Indian Hindus and i dont know who feed this non sense in their brain and they start speak on behalf of all Muslims

 

[Levina]

anyone should be allowed in the mosques in the first place ...
i still dont know who made the rule to keep the Non Muslims away from Mecca and Madina

Anyone can visit this mosque irrespective of their religion.
The only condition to visit this mosque is that one has to be covered, as in women must wear Abaya and men will 've to wear kandura if they are wearing shorts, pants are allowed.

Hindu temple already exists there.

Not in Abudhabi.
Hindu temple is in Dubai.

Bhai there is a hell of difference between an advanced developed nation like United States and still a developing nation like India.
You are an American .You should learn a lot about the petty politics in sub continent.Those Arabs didnt have any problem to practice Indian traditions when they are in India .But our own political morons from league cant practice their own tradition wherethey have rights .
I also like to visit a mosque .AFAIK non muslims are not allowed in Mosques in our region.
But I have visited several Churches

Non Muslims are allowed to visit this mosque, infact this is a star attraction for tourists who visit Abudhabi.

Yes, I meant in Dubai. Dubai also under UAE as i know. Also its near by

You guys don't understand the importance of this decision.
Abudhabi is the biggest and richest emirate of UAE, it also happens to be the capital city. The ruling Nahyan family resides in Abudhabi.
Dubai has a temple and nobody should be surprised, because Dubai as an emirate is a more liberal compared to Abudhabi.
Abudhabi has many churches but not a single temple, so this decision is a welcome change.

 

[Armstrong]

@levina apa - Mein Abu Dhabi ayaa thaaa last year.....aaap nei eik dafaa bhiii khaneiii par nahin bolayaa ?

 

[Levina]

@levina apa - Mein Abu Dhabi ayaa thaaa last year.....aaap nei eik dafaa bhiii khaneiii par nahin bolayaa ?

Liar..you never told me that you were in my city.

 

[Armstrong]

Liar..you never told me that you were in my city.

I didn't tell you because I didn't want you coming to the airport with an entire battalion to give me a 21 gun salute along with bajeiii waleiii for the music !

It was only a 4-5 hour stopover !

 

[SrNair]

Why not name a few of those Indian mosques which won't allow non-muslims and please support your claims of course with proper sources?


No mate, this guy seems to be misinformed. There is no such thing as no-entry to non-muslims in Indian mosques.

I cant due to obvious reason.
Dont need to argue with me.I have experienced something like that.

 

[doublemaster]

Anyone can visit this mosque irrespective of their religion.
The only condition to visit this mosque is that one has to be covered, as in women must wear Abaya and men will 've to wear kandura if they are wearing shorts, pants are allowed.


Not in Abudhabi.
Hindu temple is in Dubai.

Non Muslims are allowed to visit this mosque, infact this is a star attraction for tourists who visit Abudhabi.


You guys don't understand the importance of this decision.
Abudhabi is the biggest and richest emirate of UAE, it also happens to be the capital city. The ruling Nahyan family resides in Abudhabi.
Dubai has a temple and nobody should be surprised, because Dubai as an emirate is a more liberal compared to Abudhabi.
Abudhabi has many churches but not a single temple, so this decision is a welcome change.

Land was donated to temple even before the Modi was landed there. I am not sure if that land is same as the one gifted now. If you think that UAE allowed Hindus to build temple just looking at Modi face...then i pity you. If the country follows strict rule then forget Modi, Even obama cant do a thing. Its really cheap to claim by Modi and his followers for credit for this.
UAE alcohol rules are also not so strict like Saudi.

Temple core (sanctum sanctorum/garbha graha) are not restricted to others because of caste, but because of the small space. Even a brahmin, who is not part of the temple's priests will not be allowed into that place. On the other hand, temple authorities from all castes who need to go there for maintenance purposes or for any other temple activities are allowed there. Do not babble about something you do not know.

Probably u need to visit temple more often. Just google "Dalits can not enter temple". Here i am posting recent one. There are 100s. many templs just dont allow dalits to enter forget about Garbha. Forget muslims.
100 Dalits arrested for trying to enter temple This is not one random case. I studied in temple school my frends who arent brahmins were not so much eager to go to temple run by brahmins even when they were allowed to enter. (As i know now there are temples for different casts). because they have to sit in separate rows for food.

Garbha i have seen its a small place, normally people cant go there. it will have additonal security also because valuables are there inside. But they dont let other casts people inside.

 

[Josef K]

Probably u need to visit temple more often. Just google "Dalits can not enter temple". Here i am posting recent one. There are 100s. many templs just dont allow dalits to enter forget about Garbha. Forget muslims.
100 Dalits arrested for trying to enter temple

Are you really that naive or are you a troll? Do you know what the Uthapuram problem is? The Uthapuram temple is maintained by one community(pillais) and they had enmity with the Dalits. Because of this they did not want Dalits to use their temple. Until 1989, Dalits were entering the temple. But due to the rivalry, the pillais built a wall barring the Dalits from going through the temple to their place of worship. Due to this there was a long standing rivalry between two communities - the pillais, who were managing the temple and the Dalits who were from the same village. The temple was a burning cauldron for many years. No ritual was happening in the temple. Even the pillais who were managing the temple affairs were barred by police to do any big ceremonies. So, when an agitation happens the police naturally stops them. Did you not read about the dalits entering the temple in 2012? Here: Uthapuram Dalits enter temple after more than two decades - The Hindu

So what does that mean? That the dalits were in fact entering the temple 2 decades ago and it was not because of some temple custom they were barred. Just googling without researching is no way to debate.

Btw, it was the Vishwa Hindu Parishad which negotiated between the two communities to re-open the temple.

This is not one random case. I studied in temple school my frends who arent brahmins were not so much eager to go to temple run by brahmins even when they were allowed to enter. (As i know now there are temples for different casts). because they have to sit in separate rows for food.

Your earlier evidence shows how ignorant you were about the Uthapuram subject. I do not have any reason to believe in your anecdotes.

Garbha i have seen its a small place, normally people cant go there. it will have additonal security also because valuables are there inside. But they dont let other casts people inside.

That is what I said too. But I have entered the garbha graha in a few very popular temples and I am not a Brahmin.

A big FYI. In India it is illegal to stop a Hindu from entering a temple citing his caste. That can earn you a jail time. So please do some research and refrain from posting incorrect information on this forum.

 

[doublemaster]

Are you really that naive or are you a troll? Do you know what the Uthapuram problem is? The Uthapuram temple is maintained by one community(pillais) and they had enmity with the Dalits. Because of this they did not want Dalits to use their temple. Until 1989, Dalits were entering the temple. But due to the rivalry, the pillais built a wall barring the Dalits from going through the temple to their place of worship. Due to this there was a long standing rivalry between two communities - the pillais, who were managing the temple and the Dalits who were from the same village. The temple was a burning cauldron for many years. No ritual was happening in the temple. Even the pillais who were managing the temple affairs were barred by police to do any big ceremonies. So, when an agitation happens the police naturally stops them. Did you not read about the dalits entering the temple in 2012? Here: Uthapuram Dalits enter temple after more than two decades - The Hindu

So what does that mean? That the dalits were in fact entering the temple 2 decades ago and it was not because of some temple custom they were barred. Just googling without researching is no way to debate.

Btw, it was the Vishwa Hindu Parishad which negotiated between the two communities to re-open the temple.


Your earlier evidence shows how ignorant you were about the Uthapuram subject. I do not have any reason to believe in your anecdotes.

That is what I said too. But I have entered the garbha graha in a few very popular temples and I am not a Brahmin.

A big FYI. In India it is illegal to stop a Hindu from entering a temple citing his caste. That can earn you a jail time. So please do some research and refrain from posting incorrect information on this forum.

Uthapuram case i shared is one such incident. You might be ignorant, you can find plenty of cases. May be not every temple this restriction is there but there are plenty of it with restriction. Pls dont try to simplify it. I dont know which temple you entered but checked with many frends only brahmin with janiwar can enter garbha.

Until 1989, Dalits were entering the temple. you may be talking about one temple. But trust me until 1989 dalits and other lower caste people were not allowed to enter each other home. forget temple. Even now also its practised in many areas. It is only western education and Indian government strict rules and campaigns reduced it further.

This is how a famous temple treats lower cast people in India. They have roll over what ever is leftover of brahmin food plates.