Modi govt keeps Pakistan out of regional plans, signs pacts with other countries

[Super Falcon]

These countries bhutan nepal bangladesh dont have anything to offer even if u build ports roads etc no effect will be on economy real bet is pak china ecnomic coridor which connect with entire world indian pact is limited with saarc countries we hardly give a damn about indian pacts but india is worriex for our ecnomic coridor clearly it means we have the edge over entire saarc pact

 

[Paksanity]

How I wish your post was true!
Because that would have entailed Pakistan gracefully leaving SAARC citing the same reasons.

Yet instead what Pakistan chose to do was stay in SAARC and block every proposal that every other SAARC member wanted. And since SAARC works only on consensus, Pakistan stopped the entire region from integrating into one market as well. Pakistan wanted the region not to integrate. It was working to actively sabotage SAARC.

That means that Pakistan wanted to sabotage SAARC initiatives and not just leave it. And this is where the GoI came into its element. It made other multilateral groupings while keeping Pakistan out and passing those very agreements that Pakistan blocked.

This way, we (the rest of South Asia) are keeping Pakistan away.

You are not keeping us away. We choose to stay away. It is not regional integration, it is Indian dominance being expanded and sorry that ends where Pakistan starts. As far being part of SAARC, yes we will remain its member because we choose to. India is just one member of SAARC and there are many others who have no problem with Pakistan staying in SAARC. And yes we will continue to be a nuisance for India in SAARC. When you object to a purely economic project in Pakistan, that's the least we can do. So please consider yourself just one member of SAARC and not its owner. We have heard your concern and know you are doing deals with other regional countries. Please go ahead.

 

[Mr.Nair]

These countries bhutan nepal bangladesh dont have anything to offer even if u build ports roads etc no effect will be on economy real bet is pak china ecnomic coridor which connect with entire world indian pact is limited with saarc countries we hardly give a damn about indian pacts but india is worriex for our ecnomic coridor clearly it means we have the edge over entire saarc pact

We have several sea ports and one such is Mundra which is several times bigger than karachi

As one chinese member pointed some days before in another thread that CPEC meant to connect under developed chinese region in western region compared to east.The central asian countries are not rich and less population.

 

[Paksanity]

Yes.

Good. Now please tell your fellows Pakistan is about to meet its end. Get the fireworks ready. Now I wouldn't advise you to look into the trunk of deceased grandparents though there is good chance you will find it there. They also bought fireworks for the same purpose but alas! Please be kind to the younger ones around you. They are destined to go through the misery of watching Pakistan on their west. It won't be easy for them!

 

[Super Falcon]

It connect them to entire world and we are not talking about karachi it is gwasar ask any ship captain once gwadar is ready that he will port his ship more often to gwadar than aby indian port real deal is gwadar entire middle east 30 min ferry ride russia turkey iran entire europe time will be saved of shiping companies indian ports offer less if u go east only saarc poor countries philpine etc no real deal there

 

[Ajit Kumar]

Good. Now please tell your fellows Pakistan is about to meet its end. Get the fireworks ready. Now I wouldn't advise you to look into the trunk of deceased grandparents though there is good chance you will find it there. They also bought fireworks for the same purpose but alas! Please be kind to the younger ones around you. They are destined to go through the misery of watching Pakistan on their west. It won't be easy for them!

No. That would be harsh.

 

[Ray_of_Hope]

Modi govt keeps Pakistan out of regional plans, signs pacts with other countries

• Jayanth Jacob/Moushumi Das Gupta, Hindustan Times, New Delhi
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• Updated: Jun 23, 2015 03:34 IST

Union minister for road transport highways and shipping, Nitin Gadkari and his counterparts at BBIN Transport Ministers conference in Thimpu, Bhutan. (PTI Photo)

• The Modi government is changing the way it conducts its foreign policy, entering into regional pacts while leaving out Pakistan that New Delhi sees as a reluctant player in achieving Saarc’s goal of greater integration.
  
  India has gone ahead and signed agreements on roads, ports, power and education with South Asian countries to build and strengthen ties, circumventing the Pakistan hurdle.
  
  “For long it was a Pakistan-obsessed regional policy, for that matter foreign policy. Time has come to think out of the box and move ahead,” a government source said.
  
  These plans were not just aimed at greater cooperation but had strategic intent as well, sources said, citing the example of Chabahar Port in Iran.
  
  The signing of the BBIN (Bangladesh-Bhutan-India-Nepal) corridor agreement in the Bhutanese capital Thimpu on June 15 is a shot in the arm for Delhi’s regional plan.
  
  A similar pact would be signed with Afghanistan in the coming months. The India-Myanmar-Thailand road connectivity plan would be completed by year-end and would eventually be integrated with the BBIN corridor, sources said.
  
  “This will be a big boost to sub-regional connectivity and a major feat in India’s ‘Act East policy’,” an official said.
  
  Pakistan had refused to sign a Saarc agreement on motor vehicle and rail connectivity at a summit in Kathmandu in November.
  
  The underlining theme, sources said, was “Pakistan not holding up plans for greater regional integration” by letting neighbours join in when they want to.
  
  Founded in 1985, the eight-member South Asian Association for Regional Corporation remains one of the least integrated groupings in the world.
  
  Less than 5% of the region’s global trade takes place among member countries and less than 10% of the region’s commerce is conducted in the Saarc Free Trade Area.
  
  India was encouraged by response from neighbours like Bangladesh and Nepal who would find sub-regional framework more helpful than fighting domestic political objection to signing “India-dictated” bilateral pacts, sources said.
  
  India is finalising a tripartite transit agreement to allow Indian goods to enter Iran through Chabahar port on the country’s southeastern coast bordering Afghanistan. Goods will be moved through road and rail to Afghanistan as well as Central Asia.
  
  “We have a container terminal at Mundra, which is some 550 nautical miles from Chabahar. It’s nearest to Chabahar and once the port is ready, container vessels can reach Iran in approximately two days,” a shipping ministry official said.
  
  Though it attended a meeting on plans for a dedicated Saarc satellite Monday, Pakistan has not been too keen. Officials said the project, which aims to boost telemedicine and communication in the region, would meet the 2016 deadline.
  
  New Delhi, said sources, would stay away from a Saarc gathering of transport secretaries in July “unless Pakistan spells out what it exactly wants from the meet”.
  
  After Pakistan kept member countries waiting till last moment at Kathmandu for a grid plan, India has again gone ‘local’.
  
  “When PM (Narendra Modi) was in Bangladesh, he said India would contribute a major way to Dhaka’s plans of meeting 24,000MW power demands in 2021,” a source said.
  
  India could allow countries such as Bhutan to route power to Bangladesh through India.
  
  But Pakistan, the second largest Saarc country after India, can hold back new initiatives of the grouping as the forum works with consensus. Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Maldives, Nepal and Sri Lanka are the other members.
  
  India will also need Pakistan’s help for Afghanistan road plan. “Well, when things are moving quite well on the eastern front, we can hope things will fall in place on the western front too,” an official said.

Modi govt keeps Pakistan out of regional plans, signs pacts with other countries

 

[Mr.Nair]

It connect them to entire world and we are not talking about karachi it is gwasar ask any ship captain once gwadar is ready that he will port his ship more often to gwadar than aby indian port real deal is gwadar entire middle east 30 min ferry ride russia turkey iran entire europe time will be saved of shiping companies indian ports offer less if u go east only saarc poor countries philpine etc no real deal there

When a ship dock in indian port the goods meant for India as our imported item, be it coal for power plant ,oil whatever it may be and we also export tech products like automobiles abroad. You developed Gwadar port just as the transit route to chinese to import goods ONLY to western border of china.The majority commodity not intend for pakistan.This never create much pakistan economic activity other than collecting transit fees or can say TOLL FEES.

Go by sea is much cheaper and safer than by land even it take long distance.

 

[Paksanity]

You should be advisor to Chinese economic team. No wonder their economy is such a mess.

Go by sea is much cheaper and safer than by land even it take long distance.

 

[ito]

We won't compete and hence will meet a sad end eventually. But yet won't become part of SAARC connectivity thingy. You can have it all. Happy now?

Do you really think that trade with Afghanistan or central Asia, India is going to make billions? If yes, you need to go to your doctor. It is east that has the wealth and is the future. China, Japan, South Korea, Australia lies east to India.

 

[GURU DUTT]

You should be advisor to Chinese economic team. No wonder their economy is such a mess.

looking at the condition of your nations economy i wonder why your nation never did so as they are your "all weather friends "

 

[Paksanity]

Do you really think that trade with Afghanistan or central Asia, India is going to make billions? If yes, you need to go to your doctor. It is east that has the wealth and is the future. China, Japan, South Korea, Australia lies east to India.

I don't know. They have been begging us to give them access to Afghanistan from Wagah. I wonder why they are not looking east?!

 

[Mr.Nair]

You should be advisor to Chinese economic team. No wonder their economy is such a mess.

What the whole world are fools to prefer cargo by sea and spending trillions for that !

 

[Paksanity]

looking at the condition of your nations economy i wonder why your nation never did so as they are your "all weather friends "

For a total history of about 6 and half decades, Pakistan was ahead of India for 4 decades. You have been ahead for about two. Now don't be shallow.

 

[ito]

I don't know. They have been begging us to give them access to Afghanistan from Wagah. I wonder why they are not looking east?!

It is not Afghanistan that India was interested at...It was Pakistan with its 180 m people that India was interested. Afghanistan was just an excuse. But now it is clear that Pakistan is not interested in trade with India.