Modi conferred ‘Grand Collar of the State of Palestine’

[Saif al-Arab]

All Pakistani users (those 15 + that looked at this thread while I posted) are all gone. No comment. No reply. Back to bashing 500 million Arabs. That minorities favorite pastime on PDF. Sad. Very sad.

What are those people hiding from? The truth?

 

[Hamza913]

@dsr478...........So what happened to the Ummah here then????...........




I am actually glad this has happened. Pakistanis can now stop crying about the Palestinians and give up on the toxic idea of the "Ummah" Chummah.

Irrelevant, I don't like Fatah and neither do most Palestinians.

All Pakistani users (those 15 + that looked at this thread while I posted) are all gone. No comment. No reply. Back to bashing 500 million Arabs. That minorities favorite pastime on PDF. Sad. Very sad.

What are those people hiding from? The truth?

Asalamu Alaikum

Leave them, these nationalists put ethnicity above Islam, they couldn't care less if you were Muslim, all they see is where you come from and what colour you are.

 

[Imran Khan]

wish we have relations with Israel too . national interest

 

[Enigma_]

All Pakistani users (those 15 + that looked at this thread while I posted) are all gone. No comment. No reply. Back to bashing 500 million Arabs. That minorities favorite pastime on PDF. Sad. Very sad.

What are those people hiding from? The truth?

Hey there what did I miss out on? You talking sh!t again with your long as essays?

Irrelevant, I don't like Fatah and neither do most Palestinians.



Asalamu Alaikum

Leave them, these nationalists put ethnicity above Islam, they couldn't care less if you were Muslim, all they see is where you come from and what colour you are.

Yeah I agree too, the Arab nations really need to start treating other Muslims as muslims and not as second class citizens.

 

[Hamza913]

Yeah I agree too, the Arab nations really need to start treating other Muslims as muslims and not as second class citizens.

Of course. We all need things to work on, but it can be done.

 

[Enigma_]

Of course. We all need things to work on, but it can be done.

Not with their Monarchs it can't.

 

[Hamza913]

Not with their Monarchs it can't.

Yes it can. A good old regime change can work if done effectively, like in Iran.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Is this your Pakistani version of Ummah as well?

http://indiapakistantrade.org

Where are you when Indians and Iranians are hugging and Iranians and Indians building strategic ports in Iran? Only found in Arab-India threads while lamenting the state of the Ummah?

Or when are you when Chinese and Indian leaders are bear hugging and having trade ties worth several billion dollars each year?

Today, China is India’s largest trading partner, with a bilateral trade of $71.5 billion. The total imports from China during the last fiscal year stood at $61.3 billion against India’s export to China worth $10.2 billion. The trade deficit, which stood at $37.2 billion a few years ago, now stands at a whopping $51.1 billion.

https://thediplomat.com/2017/08/how-to-fix-india-china-trade/

Complete silence? I thought so.

Now how many Pakistanis is Iran (yet Iran hosts millions of illegal Afghans but not many Pakistanis) hosting or China? Can you please answer me? Which region of the world provides the by far largest remittances to Pakistan? Arab world (GCC in particular if not almost exclusively - before Libya and Iraq did too - no longer the case) or Iran (LOL) or China?

BTW the trade volume between Turkey and India was 13 billion USD last year.

http://www.mfa.gov.tr/turkey_s-commercial-and-economic-relations-with-india.en.mfa

https://www.dailysabah.com/op-ed/20...cooperation-significant-for-further-relations

It seems that nobody is ignoring India.

Where were such comments when Erdogan visited India in April of 2017? I can't seem to find the usual suspects in any such threads?

I don't recall that happening. Why is that?

Turkey-India cooperation significant for further relations
RAHUL KULSHRESHTH
PublishedApril 28, 2017
President Erdoğan's official visit to India will strengthen Turkish-Indian relations and help the two countries increase their bilateral cooperation in the near future

Can you please answer your Arab Muslim brother here and do some explaining? Friends are supposed to be frank and honest with each other.

@Ahmet Pasha what is your view of my post(s) bro? Am I speaking too much truth here and being too frank or do you think that I have a point here?

Ummah is dead. Whether by Pakistani betrayal or by Arab betrayal. Either way, the concept is dead and buried for now.

 

[Enigma_]

Yes it can. A good old regime change can work if done effectively, like in Iran.

Who's going to do a regime change in the Arab states that follow the west lol? The west will defend them as much as they can. They ain't going anywhere.

 

[Hamza913]

Is this your Pakistani version of Ummah as well?

http://indiapakistantrade.org

Where are you when Indians and Iranians are hugging and Iranians and Indians building strategic ports in Iran? Only found in Arab-India threads while lamenting the state of the Ummah?

Or when are you when Chinese and Indian leaders are bear hugging and having trade ties worth several billion dollars each year?

Today, China is India’s largest trading partner, with a bilateral trade of $71.5 billion. The total imports from China during the last fiscal year stood at $61.3 billion against India’s export to China worth $10.2 billion. The trade deficit, which stood at $37.2 billion a few years ago, now stands at a whopping $51.1 billion.

https://thediplomat.com/2017/08/how-to-fix-india-china-trade/

Complete silence? I thought so.

Now how many Pakistanis is Iran (yet Iran hosts millions of illegal Afghans but not many Pakistanis) hosting or China? Can you please answer me? Which region of the world provides the by far largest remittances to Pakistan? Arab world (GCC in particular if not almost exclusively - before Libya and Iraq did too - no longer the case) or Iran (LOL) or China?

BTW the trade volume between Turkey and India was 13 billion USD last year.

http://www.mfa.gov.tr/turkey_s-commercial-and-economic-relations-with-india.en.mfa

https://www.dailysabah.com/op-ed/20...cooperation-significant-for-further-relations

It seems that nobody is ignoring India.

Where were such comments when Erdogan visited India in April of 2017? I can't seem to find the usual suspects in any such threads?

I don't recall that happening. Why is that?

Turkey-India cooperation significant for further relations
RAHUL KULSHRESHTH
PublishedApril 28, 2017
President Erdoğan's official visit to India will strengthen Turkish-Indian relations and help the two countries increase their bilateral cooperation in the near future

Can you please answer your Arab Muslim brother here and do some explaining? Friends are supposed to be frank and honest with each other.

@Ahmet Pasha what is your view of my post(s) bro? Am I speaking too much truth here and being too frank or do you think that I have a point here?

Shhhh these guys don't like facts.

Who's going to do a regime change in the Arab states that follow the west lol? The west will defend them as much as they can. They ain't going anywhere.

It can be done, just make sure the guys doing the change don't completely alienate the west.

Afterwards, the new regime can slowly slowly move further away from the West and closer towards other Muslim nations.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Hey there what did I miss out on? You talking sh!t again with your long as essays?


Yeah I agree too, the Arab nations really need to start treating other Muslims as muslims and not as second class citizens.

Posting facts and exposing your likes hilarious hypocrisy so in return you are left with dumb one-liners and zero arguments? What's new from the Arab-obsessed lot on PDF in other words?

1 single Arab user (me) can deal with 10 of your likes at the same time using arguments and nothing else. No insults although they can easily be used if necessary and if I am on the receiving end for no reason.

Irrelevant, I don't like Fatah and neither do most Palestinians.



Asalamu Alaikum

Leave them, these nationalists put ethnicity above Islam, they couldn't care less if you were Muslim, all they see is where you come from and what colour you are.

It's not even about nationalism. I am an Arab nationalist like all Arabs are by heart but I am religious at the same time. What this is about is hypocrisy and as I explained well in this thread. In particular post 14. That post is yet to be countered (for well-known reasons).

Shhhh these guys don't like facts.



It can be done, just make sure the guys doing the change don't completely alienate the west.

Afterwards, the new regime can slowly slowly move further away from the West and closer towards other Muslim nations.

They sure don't bro! Never did.

 

[Enigma_]

Is this your Pakistani version of Ummah as well?

http://indiapakistantrade.org

Where are you when Indians and Iranians are hugging and Iranians and Indians building strategic ports in Iran? Only found in Arab-India threads while lamenting the state of the Ummah?

Or when are you when Chinese and Indian leaders are bear hugging and having trade ties worth several billion dollars each year?

Today, China is India’s largest trading partner, with a bilateral trade of $71.5 billion. The total imports from China during the last fiscal year stood at $61.3 billion against India’s export to China worth $10.2 billion. The trade deficit, which stood at $37.2 billion a few years ago, now stands at a whopping $51.1 billion.

https://thediplomat.com/2017/08/how-to-fix-india-china-trade/

Complete silence? I thought so.

Now how many Pakistanis is Iran (yet Iran hosts millions of illegal Afghans but not many Pakistanis) hosting or China? Can you please answer me? Which region of the world provides the by far largest remittances to Pakistan? Arab world (GCC in particular if not almost exclusively - before Libya and Iraq did too - no longer the case) or Iran (LOL) or China?

BTW the trade volume between Turkey and India was 13 billion USD last year.

http://www.mfa.gov.tr/turkey_s-commercial-and-economic-relations-with-india.en.mfa

https://www.dailysabah.com/op-ed/20...cooperation-significant-for-further-relations

It seems that nobody is ignoring India.

Where were such comments when Erdogan visited India in April of 2017? I can't seem to find the usual suspects in any such threads?

I don't recall that happening. Why is that?

Turkey-India cooperation significant for further relations
RAHUL KULSHRESHTH
PublishedApril 28, 2017
President Erdoğan's official visit to India will strengthen Turkish-Indian relations and help the two countries increase their bilateral cooperation in the near future

Can you please answer your Arab Muslim brother here and do some explaining? Friends are supposed to be frank and honest with each other.

@Ahmet Pasha what is your view of my post(s) bro? Am I speaking too much truth here and being too frank or do you think that I have a point here?

Oh so this was what you were yapping about. If you haven't noticed a lot of these a*sholes are traitors and many on the payroll of the US. In regards to China, they own the trade balance with India and why shouldn't turkey look after its interests? Considering the Arab states, Israel and US don't give a damn about their sovereignty. Neither does Pakistan much to be honest. The Arab states, as does the rest of the world, have all the right in the world to look after themselves but so should Pakistan and not follow them like a loyal dog does. Now you going to give me a long essay of absolute bs again?

It can be done, just make sure the guys doing the change don't completely alienate the west.

Afterwards, the new regime can slowly slowly move further away from the West and closer towards other Muslim nations.

Sure they will. We have been waiting for that for a couple of decades now. I'm sure we can wait a few more right?

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Ummah is dead. Whether by Pakistani betrayal or by Arab betrayal. Either way, the concept is dead and buried for now.

Yes, because it cannot exist in this era (modern-day states) as states by default will always prefer their own national interests. For an Ummah to exist, the entire Muslim world should become 1 entity and that is unrealistic and impossible currently. This include Pakistan. From the perspective of Palestinians, what has Pakistan done for them? You are a nuclear armed state but you have not threatened Israel even once. Your leaders helped kill Palestinians in Jordan. Why exactly should they even like your leaderships? Yet in reality, most Palestinians have no hatred towards Pakistan or Pakistani and consider Pakistanis to be their Muslim brethren. Yes, they know little about Kashmir and South Asia (its' even worse among Northern African Arabs) but they are not to be blamed for that. It's the job of Pakistan to highlight Kashmir if Kashmir is seen as a Pakistani cause. Not outsiders.

What I am objecting is the focus and obsession about Arabs here while 1, they have been the second closest and most trusted allies of Pakistan together with China and moreover host the largest Pakistani diaspora in the world and are the cause of one of the largest income source of Pakistan (remittances from the GCC) which in return feed millions of Pakistanis in Pakistan itself. Only remittances from the West are even remotely comparable.

Why am I yet to see a single Pakistani user here complain or even address some of those facts that I mentioned in post 14? It's like a taboo. However when it is about Arabs, then its a Swedish Buffet. Here all the frustrations, complexes (yes, I said it), blame games etc. can be used at full swing. You will receive pats on your head from those same pseudo-nationalists that are nowhere to be seen when other supposed allies are doing the same or even at a greater level or worse, the Pakistani leadership itself.

Even funnier, people do not get that most Arab countries (Muslim too) are ruled by dictators who most locals have a lot of complains about.

And the favorite thing is that somehow Arabs do not look at Pakistanis as Muslim brothers and sisters. Arabs just happen to host the largest Pakistani diaspora in the world (while others could have been easily preferred) and Arabs and Pakistanis (in the West) generally having cordial ties.

Allow me to consider this as a slight freak-show of some sorts.

 

[Hamza913]

It's not even about nationalism. I am an Arab nationalist like all Arabs are by heart but I am religious at the same time. What this is about is hypocrisy and as I explained well in this thread. In particular post 14. That post is yet to be countered (for well-known reasons)

Nationalism and Islam don't mix, discard nationalism and keep Islam. It's better for you.

Anyway, even if you give yourself the label of a nationalist, I don't think you fall under the category.

 

[KapitaanAli]

All Pakistani users (those 15 + that looked at this thread while I posted) are all gone. No comment. No reply. Back to bashing 500 million Arabs. That minorities favorite pastime on PDF. Sad. Very sad.

What are those people hiding from? The truth?

It's not just the Pakistanis. This is a matter of humiliation to certain right wing Indians too.

India will never ignore Arabs and Palestine like vice versa. It's amazing that some imbeciles on all sides think that India would give up on these ancient natural profitable links for some "global conspiracy".