Modern Irani Military

[Destructlord]

Prove it, or even provide any evidence which even supports this statement. (And read the posts).

Here is the evidence that show Iran bought the passive radar from Ukraine and even upgraded it.

Ukraine sells Kolchuga to Iran - Jane's Defence News
Ukraine Radar/Stealth Detection Systems Sold To Iran
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You said Nuclear EMP, any kind of Nuclear device detonated in a countries territory is considered a nuclear attack, then the US gets to turn your country to glass.

Unlike your government, We're not interested in killing any innocent U.S citizens, not to mention they're more than 6.2 million Iranians living in U.S.

There are two kind of EMP, Nuclear and Normal. But none of them are lethal for live organs. Simply we have the ability to send you back to the stone age without killing even a fly.

What delivery systems? Are these the 'super duper ultra missiles that can reach anywhere in the world'. You know the ones that were photoshopped to make it seem like there were loads in the tests and actually failed the tests, dropping out of the sky part way through their flight? What missiles does Iran have that can reach mainland Europe, let alone the US?

Yes, But thats not what you think, Iran mass produce these misslies (100 units per year). for almost 19 years now. You know, Missile has life shortage both liquid and solid. and simply one of those missiles fuel was old, when it didnt launch they have changed it and launched it, took almost 2 hours, then mixed the smoke around the missile with photoshop, so everyone could think all of the missiles were launched together. I hope you understand what im saying! It was completely unintentional. But it was nothing compare to the defence minister of Israel who were inspecting the troops through binoculars with the lens caps on! same happend to the Bush!

How are you going to block the ships? Your missiles are no match for the defence systems of Western military vessels, a lot of work has been done against mass attacks by speedboats (mainly by the USN). Are you going to mine it? Do you have any idea about the minewarfare capabilities of the USN? It would take them a day or two to clear a path for ships through the straight and around a week to clear all your mines.

I think war with Hezballah has shown to us how "Defence systems" of the west are capable by almost destroying that super-dubper Israeli battleship!

Israel: We have destroyed the Hezballah missile capabilities!! (Then what was those 300-500 katyusha on the Israel soild every year?!). not to mention Short range missiles!

Have you ever heard of "Hoot"?

Hoot (Persian: حوت; Whale) is an Iranian supercavitation torpedo that travels at approximately 360 km/h, several times faster than a conventional torpedo. It was test-fired successfully from a surface ship against a dummy submarine during the Iranian military exercise "Great Prophet" ((پيامبر اعظم(&#1589 on 2 April 2006 and 3 April 2006.

The official Iranian news agency IRNA claims the torpedo was produced and developed by the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (سپاه پاسداران انقلاب اسلام&#1740. Most, military and industry analysts have concluded that the Hoot is reverse engineered from the Russian VA-111 Shkval supercavitation torpedo, which travels at the same speed. But there is not evidence on that.

(Clip available).

Iran has built several Mine launcher vechile three years ago. Capable of launching "Mines" to the sea from the coast. 23 mines per hour! (Per unit). But disarming every mines take around 5 hours for every disarming units (2 hours to detect them 3 hours to disarm them (this is because U.S army is capable, for France and others its take more than this!), in the "combat" it takes more than 7 hours). U.S already has 2 disarming units in the Persian Gulf.

Training is different with a real combat, I assure you Iranian navy wont go anywhere near the U.S navy! not before targeting them with the coast-to-sea missiles first. Dont forget we have more than 10 submarines, stealth craft and ect... Even midgies self-destruct submarines.

Here is the picture,

Your Navy is tracked at all times when ever out of port and all your subs are trailed, they could be sunk on demand.

Or really? How did your satellite managed to track our submarines under the water? I think something you just said suit U.S navy more than us!

Your land based systems would be dealt with by land based air strikes and the CVBG's that would pour into the area to bomb the crap out of Iran (it would be war by that point). I'm sure Israel would join in the fun as well.
Oh wow! An Iranian did some work on the B-2!!! Surely you know all the technology! Oh wait that doesn't mean that you do, it just means you may have an idea of one small part of it.

We're on top five in the Electronic warfare according to defencetech (Google it!). and dont ever think one of your cruise missile will get to their targets!
Since he did the main work of avionic and aero i think he should know. (BTW did you know director of the NASA Mars project is also an Iranian?! ).

It seems you are the Brainwashed one mate.

By watching west media? no not yet! (I dont watch any state run telvision).

How is the Kolchuga system the best in the world? There are more advanced and more powerful systems out there, so what makes this one the best?
And big wow, your F14's have out of date IRST systems that the US made and knows all the details of! Just having a IRST system does not mean that it can take on a B-2, actually a quick question how many F14's does Iran have left in service and what condition are they in? I know most were cannibalised for parts and the missiles they came with (AIM-54's most notably) are not longer fit for service, but how many are actually still flying?

I just quote those words! But maybe it is because of its range and capabilities in detecting any stealth objects.

For the record, We have upgraded those IRST systems, we have also changed the codes of the missiles, We have around 70 operational F-14A but they're being replaced with 4th Generation of Saeqeh, You have heard wrong about the cannibalization, In the last year prade 70 units of them were flying in the sky up and running. What AIM-54?! Its retired mate! (but i think we have around 200 units in the inventory, since they have been produced in Iran until the recent years). and being replaced with that 100 Km heat-seeking missile (Which has no name yet!).

To remind you, U.S has a strategical base in the Indian Ocean, where they keep those strategical bombers! forgot its name! 6 years ago one of those fancy B-2s were flying in the Iranian airspace, around Zahedan (Its located in Baluchistan of Iran). its been detected by one of those radars and two F-4 escorted it out of Iranian airspace.

This should be good for a laugh, so please tell me about the Iranian armies new capabilities.

If you're interested to watch a clip from Iranian army i can leave the link here for you but its belong to 4 years ago. but you can see everything i have said in it!

And here is all info regarding to S-300:

Iran's status regarding the S-300 system remains controversial. They seem to have acquired an unknown number of S-300PMU-1 missiles in 1993, maybe even 300 recently from Belarus.

In 1993, Iran procured an unidentified number of S-300PMU-1 missiles from Russia. Kuwait expressed its own interest shortly afterward.(12) According to a 1993 report, “the S-300PMU is being marketed extensively, particularly in the Middle East.”(13) The following year, Hungary received its own supply of Russian S-300s: the deal paid off Russia’s $800 million debt to its former Warsaw Pact ally.(14) In November 1996, Mikhail Timkin, deputy manager of the Rosvooruzheniye state arms export company, bragged that he had found two more buyers for the S-300P: “Cyprus is in the bag, we’ve wrapped it up completely. It buys only our weapons now. We have even got into NATO, can you imagine? I am in charge of Turkey, and I can tell you that Turkey is now buying weapons from us.”(15) A few years later, Greece was added to the list.(16)

MissileThreat :: S-300P (SA-10 Grumble)

Best regards

 

[Shiny Capstar]

Here is the evidence that show Iran bought the passive radar from Ukraine and even upgraded it.

Ukraine sells Kolchuga to Iran - Jane's Defence News
Ukraine Radar/Stealth Detection Systems Sold To Iran
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I was actually tasking you to prove passive radars can detect stealth aircraft.

Unlike your government, We're not interested in killing any innocent U.S citizens, not to mention they're more than 6.2 million Iranians living in U.S.

There are two kind of EMP, Nuclear and Normal. But none of them are lethal for live organs. Simply we have the ability to send you back to the stone age without killing even a fly.

I was saying that if you got an EMP and used it you would be sent back further than the stone age, to the times when there were no people. Also Iran has no missiles that can reach the US or any EMP weapons, so you do not have the ability to put us back to the stone age as you have no weapons capable of doing so and no delivery systems to get these non existent weapons to us.

Yes, But thats not what you think, Iran mass produce these misslies (100 units per year). for almost 19 years now. You know, Missile has life shortage both liquid and solid. and simply one of those missiles fuel was old, when it didnt launch they have changed it and launched it, took almost 2 hours, then mixed the smoke around the missile with photoshop, so everyone could think all of the missiles were launched together. I hope you understand what im saying! It was completely unintentional. But it was nothing compare to the defence minister of Israel who were inspecting the troops through binoculars with the lens caps on! same happend to the Bush!

Iran has no missiles capable of reaching mainland Europe, let alone the US and its missiles are vulnerable to missile defence systems.

I think war with Hezballah has shown to us how "Defence systems" of the west are capable by almost destroying that super-dubper Israeli battleship!

Israel: We have destroyed the Hezballah missile capabilities!! (Then what was those 300-500 katyusha on the Israel soild every year?!). not to mention Short range missiles!

The defence radar was on standby as were the missile defence systems (ECM's and Barak system) so as to avoid friendly fire, (the defences might have fired at Israeli aircraft). In a major war scenario all systems would be hot, not turned off as in this case. It was a **** up as the Israelis did not know Hezballah has ASM's and so did not take the necessary measures.

Have you ever heard of "Hoot"?

Hoot (Persian: حوت; Whale) is an Iranian supercavitation torpedo that travels at approximately 360 km/h, several times faster than a conventional torpedo. It was test-fired successfully from a surface ship against a dummy submarine during the Iranian military exercise "Great Prophet" ((پيامبر اعظم(&#1589 on 2 April 2006 and 3 April 2006.

The official Iranian news agency IRNA claims the torpedo was produced and developed by the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (سپاه پاسداران انقلاب اسلام&#1740. Most, military and industry analysts have concluded that the Hoot is reverse engineered from the Russian VA-111 Shkval supercavitation torpedo, which travels at the same speed. But there is not evidence on that.

(Clip available).

What guidance systems does it have? What launch vehicles? What is its effectiveness against counter measures?

Iran has built several Mine launcher vechile three years ago. Capable of launching "Mines" to the sea from the coast. 23 mines per hour! (Per unit). But disarming every mines take around 5 hours for every disarming units (2 hours to detect them 3 hours to disarm them (this is because U.S army is capable, for France and others its take more than this!), in the "combat" it takes more than 7 hours). U.S already has 2 disarming units in the Persian Gulf.

Has it been tested, what were the results? Also the times you have mentioned are for individual mines during peace time, when you have time to do it the safest way. There are plenty of ways to clear a large path very quickly, it is simply not cost effective to do it against the small number of mines that we have encountered in current conflicts. It is also slightly more risky

Training is different with a real combat, I assure you Iranian navy wont go anywhere near the U.S navy! not before targeting them with the coast-to-sea missiles first. Dont forget we have more than 10 submarines, stealth craft and ect... Even midgies self-destruct submarines.

Here is the picture,

Or really? How did your satellite managed to track our submarines under the water? I think something you just said suit U.S navy more than us!

Those missiles would be dealt with not just by the navy but by land based airstrikes and spec ops, ten subs that are in crap condition, barely sail and are not really a challenge for Western navies these days isn't going to make a difference. Your mini subs would have a long ride even to reach our ships and would be easy to deal when detected.
Also your Sub's are tracked by a lot of systems, surface ships, subs, under water acoustic surveillance systems and yes satellites. Not that they leave port that much anyway.

We're on top five in the Electronic warfare according to defencetech (Google it!). and dont ever think one of your cruise missile will get to their targets!
Since he did the main work of avionic and aero i think he should know. (BTW did you know director of the NASA Mars project is also an Iranian?! ).

How are you going to stop our cruise missiles? Also one man does not do both the main work on avionics and aeronautics and even if he did how would he help to shoot them down, all systems have been upgraded heavily you know? And so what if the NASA man is Iranian? I know plenty of Iranian academics and scientists, but they have no loyalty to current Iran as they face imprisonment and torture if they go back and many have not been able to contact their families since the revolution. Just because someone is Iranian does not mean they will help Iran.

By watching west media? no not yet! (I dont watch any state run telvision).

And how is our free non state controlled media brainwashing us? By not accepting that Iran is the best country in the world that can beat all other countries without loss? Please.

I just quote those words! But maybe it is because of its range and capabilities in detecting any stealth objects.

Do you have any idea of the measures that are being taken in modern stealth aircraft against IRST? The best heat seeking missiles around can't even detect the F22 even when staring up its tailpipe.

For the record, We have upgraded those IRST systems, we have also changed the codes of the missiles, We have around 70 operational F-14A but they're being replaced with 4th Generation of Saeqeh, You have heard wrong about the cannibalization, In the last year prade 70 units of them were flying in the sky up and running. What AIM-54?! Its retired mate! (but i think we have around 200 units in the inventory, since they have been produced in Iran until the recent years). and being replaced with that 100 Km heat-seeking missile (Which has no name yet!).

All sources I have seen state from 15 to 30 flyable at the max, please do show me pictures of these 70 F14's. The AIM-54 was retired because they were not operational any more and there weren't enough to rip apart for parts to keep the others up and running.

To remind you, U.S has a strategical base in the Indian Ocean, where they keep those strategical bombers! forgot its name! 6 years ago one of those fancy B-2s were flying in the Iranian airspace, around Zahedan (Its located in Baluchistan of Iran). its been detected by one of those radars and two F-4 escorted it out of Iranian airspace.

Please show me a reliable source that confirms this, (I think you are talking about Diego Garcia, a British Island leased by the US by the way)

If you're interested to watch a clip from Iranian army i can leave the link here for you but its belong to 4 years ago. but you can see everything i have said in it!

Please do.

And here is all info regarding to S-300:

Iran's status regarding the S-300 system remains controversial. They seem to have acquired an unknown number of S-300PMU-1 missiles in 1993, maybe even 300 recently from Belarus.

In 1993, Iran procured an unidentified number of S-300PMU-1 missiles from Russia. Kuwait expressed its own interest shortly afterward.(12) According to a 1993 report, “the S-300PMU is being marketed extensively, particularly in the Middle East.”(13) The following year, Hungary received its own supply of Russian S-300s: the deal paid off Russia’s $800 million debt to its former Warsaw Pact ally.(14) In November 1996, Mikhail Timkin, deputy manager of the Rosvooruzheniye state arms export company, bragged that he had found two more buyers for the S-300P: “Cyprus is in the bag, we’ve wrapped it up completely. It buys only our weapons now. We have even got into NATO, can you imagine? I am in charge of Turkey, and I can tell you that Turkey is now buying weapons from us.”(15) A few years later, Greece was added to the list.(16)

MissileThreat :: S-300P (SA-10 Grumble)

Best regards

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NATO has had a look at the S-300, both our allies examples and those that have been brought. If Iran does have this version it shall not be too hard to counter.

Best regards,

Shiny

 

[Destructlord]

Sorry firend, But from the beginning of your statement you're repeating the same old brainwashing news that west giving you. Im not wasting my breath anymore.

 

[Destructlord]

I was actually tasking you to prove passive radars can detect stealth aircraft.

Well if you have read those pages you would obviously know "How passive radars detecting stealth aircrafts"!

I was saying that if you got an EMP and used it you would be sent back further than the stone age, to the times when there were no people. Also Iran has no missiles that can reach the US or any EMP weapons, so you do not have the ability to put us back to the stone age as you have no weapons capable of doing so and no delivery systems to get these non existent weapons to us.
Iran has no missiles capable of reaching mainland Europe, let alone the US and its missiles are vulnerable to missile defence systems.

We have the missile technology which can easily reach U.S without NORAD knowing it. EMP is a very simple device even i as a student can build it. I think we have just show the world about our missile capabilities by launching Safir.

However, About my claims you can simply use "Google it" so you will find more than 10.000 results for my claims. You can also check Globalsecurity, Janes and other websites.

If thinking that our missiles wont reach U.S makes you feel comfort so i suggest you to continue thinking like that!

You so-called "Anti-Ballistic" missile systems are not able to do anything even about our oldest missiles. Read this. BTW you have just proved to me that you have no knowledge regarding the missiles! (Most advanced Anti-ballistic missile system Arrow-3 cant target a missile with more than 4 mach speed. What can it do against Shahab-3B with 21 mach at its terminal phase?! (Not to mention Iran is very vast we can launch it from anywhere we want!). and there will be more launch than just one missile!

Shahab-3B

The Shahab-3B differs from the basic production variant. It has improvements to its guidance system and warhead, a few small changes on the missile body, and a new re-entry vehicle whose terminal guidance system and rocket-nozzle steering method are completely different from the Shahab-3A's spin-stabilized re-entry vehicle.

The new re-entry vehicle uses a triconic aeroshell geometry (or 'baby bottle' design) which improves the overall lift to drag ratio for the re-entry vehicle. This allows greater range maneuverability which can result in better precision. The triconic design also reduces the overall size of the warhead from an estimated 1 metric ton (2,200 lb) to 700 kg (1,500 lb).

The rocket-nozzle control system allows the missile to change its trajectory several times during re-entry and even terminal phase, effectively preventing pre-calculated intercept points of radar systems - which is a method nearly all ABM systems use these days. As a high-speed ballistic missile and pre-mission fueling capability, the Shahab-3 has an extremely short launch/impact time ratio. This means that the INS/gyroscope guidance would also remain relatively accurate until impact (important, given the fact that the gyroscopes tend to become inaccurate the longer the flight lasts). The CEP is estimated to be at 30–50 metres (98–160 ft) or less.[7] However, the accuracy of the missile is largely speculative and cannot be confidently predicted for wartime situations.[8]

These improvements would greatly increase the Shahab-3B's survivability against ABM systems such as Israel's Arrow-2 as well as being used for precision attacks against high value targets such as command, control and communications centres.

Specifications

Diameter 1.2 m (3 ft 11 in)
Warhead One (990 kg/2,200 lb) - five cluster warheads in new models (280 kg/620 lb) each warhead, each warhead can target different destinations.
Engine Liquid & Solid (for models made after 2006)
Operational
range 2,100 km (1,300 mi)
Speed 5,500 km/h (3,400 mph), 21 mach in final phase.
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The defence radar was on standby as were the missile defence systems (ECM's and Barak system) so as to avoid friendly fire, (the defences might have fired at Israeli aircraft). In a major war scenario all systems would be hot, not turned off as in this case. It was a **** up as the Israelis did not know Hezballah has ASM's and so did not take the necessary measures.

Oh really! so they didnt deem it necessary to use it in a war against Hezballah who almost razed Israel with its missiles?!

What guidance systems does it have? What launch vehicles? What is its effectiveness against counter measures?

INS/gyroscope guidance, Since 2005 its even use satellite guidance! Launch vehicles are trucks! so you cant find them! You cant do anything about a missile with 21 mach speed sorry!

Has it been tested, what were the results? Also the times you have mentioned are for individual mines during peace time, when you have time to do it the safest way. There are plenty of ways to clear a large path very quickly, it is simply not cost effective to do it against the small number of mines that we have encountered in current conflicts. It is also slightly more risky.

Ah you're talking about mines! results were good if they werent Army wouldnt buy 30 of them from DIOMIL!

Those missiles would be dealt with not just by the navy but by land based airstrikes and spec ops, ten subs that are in crap condition, barely sail and are not really a challenge for Western navies these days isn't going to make a difference. Your mini subs would have a long ride even to reach our ships and would be easy to deal when detected.
Also your Sub's are tracked by a lot of systems, surface ships, subs, under water acoustic surveillance systems and yes satellites. Not that they leave port that much anyway.

OMG you're talking about Kilos?! Kilos are in crap conditions?! did you know they're far more superior than Israeli Dolphines?!!!!!!!! First of All military satellites are not able to watch under the water! (not even with 1m resolution). second of all when our mini-subs are stealth and tiny how do you want to detect them?! Its time for you to wake up! I also bet you havent heard about what an Iranian student did? He made a device which block the satellites imagery abilities under its area of protection.

How are you going to stop our cruise missiles? Also one man does not do both the main work on avionics and aeronautics and even if he did how would he help to shoot them down, all systems have been upgraded heavily you know? And so what if the NASA man is Iranian? I know plenty of Iranian academics and scientists, but they have no loyalty to current Iran as they face imprisonment and torture if they go back and many have not been able to contact their families since the revolution. Just because someone is Iranian does not mean they will help Iran.

Simply with electronic warfare! (Have you heard about GPS jamming systems?!). its already been tested in large scale by IRGC!
His been working on the both! (I know thats why we are genius!). i didnt mean he giving us the information about B-2! i meant you must not think we're uneducated fools whom cant even build a simple stealth fighter!

BTW those who are working with the enemy for improvement of its military systems are just traitors! About killing and torturing!!!!! You have just showed me again that you're a brainwashed! (They messed with your brain badly my friend!). I live in Iran and i dont see any of these things which you claim happening in my country!

And how is our free non state controlled media brainwashing us? By not accepting that Iran is the best country in the world that can beat all other countries without loss? Please.

Your media is not that free! Zionists runing them! Just look at Fox News,
CNN and other shits!

Do you have any idea of the measures that are being taken in modern stealth aircraft against IRST? The best heat seeking missiles around can't even detect the F22 even when staring up its tailpipe.

Still they are easily detectable on passive radars! (See those links i left in the previous post).

All sources I have seen state from 15 to 30 flyable at the max, please do show me pictures of these 70 F14's. The AIM-54 was retired because they were not operational any more and there weren't enough to rip apart for parts to keep the others up and running.

My source is my eye and i have seen them in prade! However those F-14 are not capable against modern fighters so why are you insisting to talk about those old F-14 when there are some imba fighter like Azarakhsh and Saeqeh?! You can easily find pictures of those F-14 by google!

AIM-54 was retired due lack of efficiency against moder aircrafts!

Here is the source, which tell you we are able to build them:

In recent years, Iran claims to have developed its own version of the Phoenix, equivalent to the AIM-54C version.

However have this vid for now:

Aviation Video: Iranian f-14 still carries AIM-54 | Patrick's Aviation
Iran: Satellites and Tomcats
Let's talk about Iranian F-14, page 1

Please read them this time!

Please show me a reliable source that confirms this, (I think you are talking about Diego Garcia, a British Island leased by the US by the way)

Google is your friend! My friend!

NATO has had a look at the S-300, both our allies examples and those that have been brought. If Iran does have this version it shall not be too hard to counter.

To tell you the truth we dont trust Russian government, We change the code of every equipment we buy from them.

Best regards!

 

[Destructlord]

But i have heard about torturing by C.I.A and MI6 and how they are treating with the prisoners! Also seen the movies! (That scumbag! Bush was defending C.I.A inhuman actions!).

 

[Shiny Capstar]

Sorry firend, But from the beginning of your statement you're repeating the same old brainwashing news that west giving you. Im not wasting my breath anymore.

Thats funny, I was thinking exactly the same thing... except replace West with Iranian.

 

[Destructlord]

Thats funny, I was thinking exactly the same thing... except replace West with Iranian.

What?! we dont give .... about West, West governments are brutal and savage! You want to nuke everyone who doesnt give *** a$$ about west or its sophisticated torturing methods!

 

[Black Stone]

Please guys, let him be, he is a patriotic Iranian and frankly I quite like him .

Iran is the new superpower of the world that could send the great s@tan back to the stone age.

We never know...Iran might have a Death Star orbiting the earth right now ready to blast their mighty laser on all of us.

I have even put his famous quote in my signature.

 

[Destructlord]

Please guys, let him be, he is a patriotic Iranian and frankly I quite like him .

Iran is the new superpower of the world that could send the great s@tan back to the stone age.

We never know...Iran might have a Death Star orbiting the earth right now ready to blast their mighty laser on all of us.

I have even put his famous quote in my signature.

I didnt mean we'll send U.S back to stone age whenever we want!! Yes i know U.S has more than 2.500 nuclear warhead in various strategic locations.

I said if they invade our country we'll retaliate with full force in that case even if the whole Iran razed it doesnt matter, Because the same may happend to the U.S, Not to mention there are superpowers waiting for this chance! North Korea to unify South Korea, China to retake Taiwan and Russia to regain its old realm, even Pakistan and India may have their problems about Kashmir.

Expert estimates for a ground assault on Iran, U.S need more than 3.000.000 troops! But does the U.S army has 3 million men?...

Regards

 

[Super Falcon]

when do iran purchase JF 17 or J 10 and why iran do not go for SU 35 why they go for SU 30 SU 35 is more superior and iran dosent have any probleums foe getting them

 

[Destructlord]

when do iran purchase JF 17 or J 10 and why iran do not go for SU 35 why they go for SU 30 SU 35 is more superior and iran dosent have any probleums foe getting them

Russia wont sell us those things my friend They wont even sell us S-300! which is a defensive weapon! Its all because they think several S-300 battery can change the balance in the middile-east! But they dont know about our true air defence capabilities!