Missiles aimed at Moscow: Ukraine warns Kremlin and spell end of Russia

[SecularNationalist]

 

[Azadkashmir]

I don't know if Ukraine will be dancing to that tone they mean business

if shit gets wild usa will fleee home ukraine is not far from russia it will be flattened.

 

[Paul2]

Distance from Ukraine to Moscow is like 800km. Thats achievable.

Ukraine was the centre of soviet heavy industry, what else you want.

I have no doubts that even resourceful a highschooler can make some semblance of moderately effective ballistic missile.

For as long as you can get GPSable CEP of <100m you can kill a moderately hardened target with conventional explosives.

 

[Paul2]

The Russian military is in Syria on the request of the legitimate government of Bashar al Assad and Syria, Russia, the Palestinians, Iran, Hizballah and other allies who together have been fighting for ten years now against tens of thousands of transnational criminals created, armed, financed and political supported by NATO and GCC who want to effect a regime change against the progressive government of Syria and install a mullah government in Damascus and divide Syria along sectarian lines. Look at the rat flag of the "Syrian" "moderate rebels". Having such a government in Damascus would help advance NATO's plans of defeating any independent-minded progressive government among Muslims. NATO is simply a modern Crusader movement.

The patriotic Syrians have a slogan - "Allah, Suriya, Bashar wa bas" ( All we want is God, Syria and Bashar ) - which is derived from the 2011 Libyan slogan - "Allah, Muammar, Libya bas".

There was a patriotic Syrian member here, @Syrian Lion, a Christian, who used to post good info about the Syrian war.

NATO had no balls to confront Russia even in Syria. When they MLRSed Russians at Mayadin, and news got to Washington, Obama ran to the bunker (to be fair, Putin was said to have do so too)

Do not expect NATOs resolve to suddenly improve when NATO core members now see leaders even weaker than a decade ago.

So, adhoc nuke, and ballistic missiles is the only option for Ukeraineans to negate the 8-fold air force advantage.

Unless USA airforce joins, you cannot expect even a few NATO members airforce making much of a difference without that. (Even if half of Russia's airforce will stay to guard China-Russia border.)

 

[Paul2]

Pakistan should sell Ukraine weaponry as well. Finance it and provide some freebies as well. Its in our interest. We will still be good friends with the Russians while giving their enemies weapons Just like how they do.

For you to know, Russia been doing a concerted effort to court Imran Khan for the last 3-2 years. Little they know, Pakistan civilian government don't have much say in matters of military procurement, let alone strategic re-orientation of defence suppliers.

Their point there is not so that they are so fond of Khan, but that they want to tickle Modi now because USA is courting him. They will continue to fight for India defence procurement with USA, and Pakistan will likely stay with USA, and China as only trusted suppliers, with, probably, Turkey joining them.

 

[Paul2]

It signal the end of Ukraine. Moscow can be rebuild other places in Russia since it is so big. But Ukraine cannot afford to lose.

It look may look so. Eating few megatons, and losing few millions will probably be to Russia as a country like .22 to an elephant, but not so much to Russia as a state.

I rode train no. 4 with father to Moscow in mid-nineties, and Russia was sooo empty. Most of Russia is empty, and that's the point. Moscow is like 50% of Russia GDP.

And you know, money is power. Nobody can rule without money, and especially if that state already been half-assing the military funding before that irrecoverable hit comes.

You can rally people into a rebuilding project if they believe there is something worth rebuilding. And if not, and your state was already a late stage decay, elites will instead deliver a finishing blow to you, and go serve the new master... "leaders first"

 

[Abid123]

Not conventionally and far from it

I agree compared with most countries. But compared to Russia? Ukraine is pretty much a walkover.