Missiles aimed at Moscow: Ukraine warns Kremlin and spell end of Russia

[jamahir]

over half a million headchopper terrorists.

Not headchopper terrorists but "moderate rebels".

 

[nahtanbob]

That is ignorant nonsense, 70% of the SAA is made up of Sunni population and the unit cohesion and elan of the Syrian military has even baffled most of the Zionist doomsayers and western "experts". The SAA has fought the most grueling anti-terror COIN campaign in history and has fought very successfully for over a decade. The US, Zionists and assorted Wahhabi pimpdoms trained and armed over half a million headchopper terrorists. Russia. Iran. Hezbollah, SAA and the Axis of Resistance have neutralized over 300,000 of the terrorists and now the terrorists are facing an endgame.

US DIA assessement: The army command is drawn from Dr. Assad’s minority Alawite Shia sect, while majority Sunni Muslims make up the rank and file. The Syrian Arab army, a vital pillar of President Dr. Bashar al-Assad’s power base, is showing little sign of the serious splits and defections the opposition seeks in its ranks, despite strains caused by over a decade of unrelenting counter-terrorism operations supported by Russia and Iran, the SAA has maintained remarkable unit cohesion and chain of command.

What is the ethnicity of the rebels ?

 

[Darius77]

What is the ethnicity of the rebels ?

Most were Arabs and from the criminal elements where US puppet regimes opened their prisons to recruit terrorists. Then there were European sourced terrorists from the ghettos of France, Belgium and Germany mostly. Also a smattering of Chechen and Uighur. The Syrian element was relatively small as most of the extremist types ran off to Europe, thanks to Angela Merkel's "invitation" in 2015 onwards. Now the recruitment pool of Salafist terrorists is very small, largely thanks to very effective use of Russian airpower at a very low cost. Russia, Iran and Syria have broken the back of terrorism and there not even a remote chance of their success in toppling the popular government of Dr. Bashar al Assad as most of Syria reverts back to government control.


Syria illustrates how Salafist terrorists thrive on civil unrest in the Muslim world. These terrorists are uneducated marginalized individuals who join terrorist groups ( they are alienated from society, lacking jobs, broken homes, lacking skills, and have no or very little education and are easy targets for intelligence agencies to recruit and so on). These domestic conflicts accompanied by economic malaise and social unrest acts as a “pull” factor. Europe, which produced thousands of fighters for the so-called Islamic State, was not dramatically different before the Syrian war began than in 2014–15, when the number of volunteers peaked along with the conflict: The war itself excited European marginalized Arabs and Sunni Muslims and led many to volunteer, often seeing themselves as would-be freedom fighters rather than clandestine terrorists with no future and certain death.


Afghanistan, Algeria, Chechnya, Iraq, Lebanon Somalia, Libya and Yemen are examples of other conflicts that have birthed new Sunni extremist Salafist groups or allowed existing ones to get stronger. The radicalization of Muslims in Xinjiang, largely due to Chinese government repression has led to alienation and radicalization in recent times, resulting in Uighur groups participating in conflicts far from homeland.

There is a poignant lesson for India from the regional terrorist wars, if the extremist Modi government continues on its Islamophobic path and repression in Kashmir, it is guaranteed that the conflict will not remain contained for long, especially with the proliferation of sophisticated weaponry abandoned by the defeated US military in Afghanistan.

 

[nahtanbob]

There is a poignant lesson for India from the regional terrorist wars, if the extremist Modi government continues on its Islamophobic path and repression in Kashmir, it is guaranteed that the conflict will not remain contained for long, especially with the proliferation of sophisticated weaponry abandoned by the defeated US military in Afghanistan.

The Humvees, PC-12 aircraft are not going to win wars against Indian Army

 

[KaiserX]

Pakistan should sell Ukraine weaponry as well. Finance it and provide some freebies as well. Its in our interest. We will still be good friends with the Russians while giving their enemies weapons Just like how they do.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Ukraine wants to be the grass in two elephants' fight. One would high tail it with Ukrainian brides when the temp rises, the other will mush the grass in its backyard, what does Ukraine gain?

Missiles ‘aimed at Moscow’: Adviser to Ukraine’s Zelensky warns Kremlin that war with Kiev would spell ‘end of Russia’ & its army
25 Oct, 2021 09:36
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By Jonny Tickle
Kiev is working on long-range missiles that can reach Moscow, and Russia's President Vladimir Putin needs to realize that any attack on Ukraine could see his entire country obliterated, a top Ukrainian official has warned.
Speaking to the Dom TV network, Alexey Arestovich warned the Kremlin that his country would soon have the ability to hit the Russian capital with its missiles. Arestovich serves as an adviser to the office of Ukraine’s leader Volodymyr Zelensky.
“Putin will get to the point, in the foreseeable future, where Ukrainian missiles will be aimed at Moscow, and for one simple reason: we are working on a missile program,” he explained. “And our operational-tactical missiles will be able to reach Moscow.”

In Arestovich’s opinion, the Russian Army is already aware of Ukraine’s military capabilities, and the heads of the armed forces are telling the Kremlin that an attack on Ukraine “would be the end of the Russian army and the end of the Russian Federation.”
“This is an absolutely losing option. They cannot fail to understand that,” he added. “And when they scare us with an invasion, an expansion, a hint of threats – it’s a bluff.”
In recent times, the Ukrainian leadership has brought up possible war with Russia on numerous occasions, despite Moscow’s insistence that it has no desire for any conflict. Last week, the commander of Ukraine’s Special Operations Forces Grigory Galagan called for “all regions” of the country to have their defenses bolstered, claiming that there is “no guarantee Russia won’t invade and subsequently escalate.”

Last month, Zelensky claimed that there was a possibility of a full-scale war with Russia and accused Moscow of not respecting his country’s independence.
On Wednesday, Britain’s The Times reported that London is in talks with Ukraine to sell it missiles for the first time, including the state-of-the-art Brimstone.

www.rt.com/russia/538367-zelensky-warns-kremlin-russia/

 

[Darius77]

The Humvees, PC-12 aircraft are not going to win wars against Indian Army

That is a rather peculiarly naive comment. Asymmetrical wars are not fought by conventional weaponry, but motivated and trained small units that tie up a large conventional cumbersome force by a fluid and changing military strategy and tactics. US losers fled Afghanistan in the middle of the night leaving behind over $85 billion worth of weaponry, mostly small arms like half a million M-16, M4 rifles, 9mm pistols, RPG, mortars and light mountain 105mm artillery etc, ideal for a Kashmir war of liberation, if Pakistan ever did decide to support a long term proxy war. and If the ISI was not remiss in doing its core function, it should be training Kashmiri and other resistance groups and supplying the required weaponry from Afghanistan stocks. The terrain in Kashmir is ideal for a simmering asymmetrical war as the majority of the local population is hostile and there is a large recruitment pool of disaffected young men who have bore the brunt of Hindu brutality and repression. The Indian army with full Zionist support is a not a very capable occupuation force as despite deploying over half a million rabble it has not been able to cope with just a few Kashmiris with guns. Just imagine the situation if the Kashmiris were properly armed, trained and provided with logistical support. As successful liberation wars spanning Algeria, Vietnam and now Afghanistan have shown that a sustained campaign with popular support targeting the enemies infrastructure and manpower over times erodes morale and creates a quagmire. A well trained Kashmiri force of around 50,000 to 100,000 would be more than enough to liberate their land. The ball is really in Pakistan and China's court.

 

[nahtanbob]

As successful liberation wars spanning Algeria, Vietnam and now Afghanistan have shown that a sustained campaign with popular support targeting the enemies infrastructure and

For every successful guerrilla movement there are ten others that failed

 

[Darius77]

For every successful guerrilla movement there are ten others that failed

That is also true. It depends on the quality and motivation of the people trying to fight. Also depends on the supporting countries, training of cadre and supply conduit. Algerians who I have the highest respect basically did it on their own against the French who are total racist savages. Vietnam had immense Soviet and Chinese support, the Taliban were supported by Pakistan and had a large support base in the Pashtun population on both sides of the Durand Line. In Kashmir, there is no large scale external support for the local population. But that can change as regional power equation changes. My point is that Modi's Hindu extremism is counter productive in a large diverse country like India, which can only operate on a secular model considering the millions of Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists and other large minorities. The Palestinian failure so far can be attributed to the treacherous sell out Arab regimes. So you are right, there are various factors that influence a long term struggle.

 

[nahtanbob]

That is also true. It depends on the quality and motivation of the people trying to fight. Also depends on the supporting countries, training of cadre and supply conduit. Algerians who I have the highest respect basically did it on their own against the French who are total racist savages. Vietnam has immense Soviet and Chinese support, the Taliban were supported by Pakistan and had a large support base on both sides of the Durand Line. In Kashmir, there is no large scale external support to the local population. But that can change as regional power equation changes. My point is that Modi's Hindu extemism is counnter productive in a large diverse country like India, which can only operate on a secular model considering the millions of Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists and other large minorities. The Palestinian failure so far can be attributed to the treacherous sell out Arab regimes. So you are right, there are various factors that influence a long term struggle.

Most rebel movements fail.

Tigers in Sri Lanka
10+ rebel movements in Myanmar
numerous rebel movements in India
Bangladesh would have failed if not for Indian military support

At the end of the day there are less than 7 million Kashmiri Muslims with only a small number involved in armed insurrection

 

[Darius77]

Most rebel movements fail.

Tigers in Sri Lanka
10+ rebel movements in Myanmar
numerous rebel movements in India
Bangladesh would have failed if not for Indian military support

At the end of the day there are less than 7 million Kashmiri Muslims with only a small number involved in armed insurrection

India stopped supporting the Tamil. Population numbers really do not matter. 7 million so-called Jews are lording over 300 million Arabs for 70 years as the Zionists have total western, particularly US support. If the Kashmiris find a reliable and steadfast supporter like Pakistan or China, the situation can change very rapidly. Also remember that there are 200 million Muslims in India and can potentially be a large recruitment pool if Modi keeps on alienating every minority. Military dimension is only one aspect of any liberation struggle, politics and economics are also a very important part.

 

[nahtanbob]

India stopped supporting the Tamil. Population numbers really do not matter. 7 million so-called Jews are lording over 300 million Arabs for 70 years as the Zionists have total western, particularly US support. If the Kashmiris find a reliable and steadfast supporter like Pakistan or China, the situation can change very rapidly. Also remember that there are 200 million Muslims in India and can potentially be a large recruitment pool if Modi keeps on alienating every minority. Military dimension is only one aspect of any liberation struggle, politics and economics are also a very important part.

Israelis Jews rule a tiny sliver of Palestine.
area of Israel = 8550 sq miles
area of arab world = 5 million sq miles

if rebel movements cannot succeed against third rate regimes in Sri Lanka or Myanmar I will let you calculate the odds against India

 

[firohot4321]

Missiles ‘aimed at Moscow’: Adviser to Ukraine’s Zelensky warns Kremlin that war with Kiev would spell ‘end of Russia’ & its army
25 Oct, 2021 09:36
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FILE PHOTO. Ukrainian servicemen are seen on a tank during a drill of the airborne troops taking place in Zhytomyr region. © AFP / SERGEI SUPINSKY


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By Jonny Tickle
Kiev is working on long-range missiles that can reach Moscow, and Russia's President Vladimir Putin needs to realize that any attack on Ukraine could see his entire country obliterated, a top Ukrainian official has warned.
Speaking to the Dom TV network, Alexey Arestovich warned the Kremlin that his country would soon have the ability to hit the Russian capital with its missiles. Arestovich serves as an adviser to the office of Ukraine’s leader Volodymyr Zelensky.
“Putin will get to the point, in the foreseeable future, where Ukrainian missiles will be aimed at Moscow, and for one simple reason: we are working on a missile program,” he explained. “And our operational-tactical missiles will be able to reach Moscow.”

In Arestovich’s opinion, the Russian Army is already aware of Ukraine’s military capabilities, and the heads of the armed forces are telling the Kremlin that an attack on Ukraine “would be the end of the Russian army and the end of the Russian Federation.”
“This is an absolutely losing option. They cannot fail to understand that,” he added. “And when they scare us with an invasion, an expansion, a hint of threats – it’s a bluff.”
In recent times, the Ukrainian leadership has brought up possible war with Russia on numerous occasions, despite Moscow’s insistence that it has no desire for any conflict. Last week, the commander of Ukraine’s Special Operations Forces Grigory Galagan called for “all regions” of the country to have their defenses bolstered, claiming that there is “no guarantee Russia won’t invade and subsequently escalate.”

Last month, Zelensky claimed that there was a possibility of a full-scale war with Russia and accused Moscow of not respecting his country’s independence.
On Wednesday, Britain’s The Times reported that London is in talks with Ukraine to sell it missiles for the first time, including the state-of-the-art Brimstone.

www.rt.com/russia/538367-zelensky-warns-kremlin-russia/

As member said distance between Moscow and Ukraine border is 800 km so making missiles able to hit it ain't difficult

Issue is without nukes few missiles can't cause any significant damage

Ukraine mistake was relinquishing it's share of nuclear arsenal after fall of Soviet Union

 

[Oldman1]

uhm...you do realize that ukraine has no nukes and is up against the Russia that has the largest nuclear stockpile in the world, right? and Russia has no way of knowing if the u.s. snuck a couple of nukes into ukrainian hands or not.

even if conventional, ukraine will get decimated in the amount of time it takes to prepare one missile to launch given how close Russia is to them...they are just starting to make the kind of missiles that Russia has thousands of at its disposal.

zelensky is smoking some really potent shit...

Ukraine can try to get nukes. Just threatening Moscow is enough to deter them.

Just be real and know your limitations. Russia is a super power and Ukraine is hot headed power and bubble can burst very easily.

Considering North Korea has nukes and only a few of them enough to deter the U.S., why not vice versa with Ukraine eh?

 

[GumNaam]

Ukraine can try to get nukes. Just threatening Moscow is enough to deter them.


Considering North Korea has nukes and only a few of them enough to deter the U.S., why not vice versa with Ukraine eh?

india has nukes. didn't street China from taking over 1100 sq km of land away from them.