Missile Defence : Erecting An Iron Dome Over India

[jammersat]

Russia knows very well, any technology they give to china, China will copy it. I will doubt very much that China got the latest version of S-400.

i'm not sure but china might aswell sell it to israel and iran rather than bothering to copy , but still russians have much more experience when it comes to SAMs , not only they shot down a U2 in the 60s they also shot down the american f-117 over balkans in the 90s ; i bet the mere existance of the s-400 and s-500 was because of that ..

1999 F-117A shootdown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[raj76]

Where did the word came from Iron Dome . Israel?

1000's years of Muslim rule made these Indians act funny.. They need another 1000 year of self rule to act normal..

ab isko kisne khola sand or bhand bandh kar rakho bhai lol

 

[SR-91]

i'm not sure but china might aswell sell it to israel and iran rather than bothering to copy , but still russians have much more experience when it comes to SAMs , not only they shot down a U2 in the 60s they also shot down the american f-117 over balkans in the 90s ; i bet the mere existance of the s-400 and s-500 was because of that ..

China does not sell any military tech to Israel, it's the other way around.

 

[jammersat]

China does not sell any military tech to Israel, it's the other way around.

not sell but smuggle

 

[Barrel-Bomba]

The assumption of Indians on bank corrupting Pakistan is hilarious and Childish. Secondly Air Power and Air Defence systems go hand in hand. Finally Pakistan is also buying lot of Air Defence systems but we don't create hype like our beloved neighbor India.

what air defence systems does Pak currently have and which new ones are being acquired ?

 

[$@rJen]

not sell but smuggle

China sells weapons to Israel??? You've lot to learn. Its the chinese who pays for tech

 

[Hephaestus]

Where did the word came from Iron Dome . Israel?

1000's years of Muslim rule made these Indians act funny.. They need another 1000 year of self rule to act normal..

Ki re.... riskaa 'r pressure gol hoye geyeche na ki.... Jao... apnar riskaa chalao.....

 

[Perpendicular]

Well BMD is lot more than the mere the system itself. The basic requirement of a limited protection is a network of IAF sensors, satellite tracking, early warning radars to name few.
Apart from interceptor development which might get a boost with info coming in with S400, systems like AFnet involving Army and Navy are in the process of integration.
Complete country coverage is a distant dream still, whereas keeping in mind huge costs involved providing cover for few selected areas is a priority for now.

 

[$@rJen]

what air defence systems does Pak currently have and which new ones are being acquired ?

Nothing if this kind.. and i don't think Pakistan will try to acquire such a system because of the costs. If they decided then they'll go for the Chinese Rip off of S-300..

 

[Barrel-Bomba]

Nothing if this kind.. and i don't think Pakistan will try to acquire such a system because of the costs. If they decided then they'll go for the Chinese Rip off of S-300..

sure, but what do they currently have in their inventory and I'm wondering what acquisitions they are planning as the guy I quoted seemed to suggest.

 

[PARIKRAMA]

India has to come up with its own solution to its own unique threat from Pakistan. The west like US/Israel or our frrend Russia have come up with products for their own threats. With a range of 600 kms the S400 radar networked with AWACs, Aerostats and a must have satellite based missile launch early warning system will enable the 400 km range 40N6 from the S400 to get to any Pakistani missile launch. (We do need 40N6 surely)

12 S400 batteries placed at a distance of 100 kms apart will cover the entire border from Srinagar to Kutch with overlapping and a very tight net of coverage making it very difficult to penetrate expecially for CMs. Also the inside indian airspace coverage helps us a lot.. Another 15-18 at a distance of 200-250km apart each can cover rest of the country much better including key installation coverage. Frankly India needs not 12-15 to cover the whole Subcontinent rather approx 30 for a very sound and accomplished coverage PAN India and another 2 in Andaman & Nicobar so a total of 32 systems for around 16-17Bn $. So in all we need at least 8 regiments plus preferably 10 regiments of S400.
Over time we must get the HTK missiles of S500 particularly the 77N6 N/N1 missiles and see what can be upgraded in S400 to more of S500 standard. If possible procure out of 30 some 10 systems of S500 standard and deploy few of such systems in central, southern, eastern and one in A&N too.

Simulations will have to be run to ensure that the 40N6 accelerates fast enough to intercept Pakistani missiles while still in the boost phase or in the early mid course phase preferably before they deploy countermeasure and decoys but with a maximum intercept altitude of 185 kms it should be capable of intercepting these short range missiles even during the mid course of their relatively short flights. Even if say like Shaheen 2 is given higher apogee with 1/3rd range, we have a much better chance to intercept such threats too.

(thanks to Idev for some fab idea in other forum)

 

[jammersat]

China sells weapons to Israel??? You've lot to learn. Its the chinese who pays for tech

The most advanced thing israel has is the arrow ABM which is a bastardization of the s-300, s-200 and the american patriot ; and which has not been tested against a BM yet ,
unlike the so called iron curtain and david slinger who have successfully intercepted Hamas'es mortar rounds and Qassam fertilizer rockets

So what exactly is it that israel plans to sell china instead of the russian s-400 and s-500 ?

 

[$@rJen]

The most advanced thing israel has is the arrow ABM which is a bastardization of the s-300, s-200 and the american patriot ; and which has not been tested against a BM yet ,
unlike the so called iron curtain and david slinger who have successfully intercepted Hamas'es mortar rounds and Qassam fertilizer rockets

So what exactly is it that israel plans to sell china instead of the russian s-400 and s-500 ?

I've been talking with a stone all this time... go put aside your ego and learn about Israel's techs and the chinese interests in them

 

[jammersat]

I've been talking with a stone all this time... go put aside your ego and learn about Israel's techs and the chinese interests in them

There's more information on this page if you really want to know :

Arrow (Israeli missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

you see the wikipedia page , even the wikipedia page , says the israeli arrow is an improvement of the outdated american patriot ..

 

[Bang Galore]

Nothing if this kind.. and i don't think Pakistan will try to acquire such a system because of the costs. If they decided then they'll go for the Chinese Rip off of S-300..

Forget them, we have nothing yet. Except some vague reports. I find it extremely odd that any purchase amounting to about $10-11 billion doesn't get more play. I wonder where the money is coming from for such a huge purchase.