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JS Suzunami conducted joint-training with France's Tonnerre and Guepratte in the Gulf of Aden on March 30th, 2016.
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https://www.defense.gouv.fr/marine/...oeuvres-franco-japonaise-dans-le-golfe-d-aden
https://www.mod.go.jp/msdf/release/201603/20160331-01.pdf
 
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There's the...

"Hai, hai, --- I see I understand will do"

"Hai, hai, --- ok it can't be helped"

"Hai, hai, --- you know your trolling, I know your trolling so why bother, let's try again next time.. "

But now look, "Japan is enemy and we take revenge cuz we never forget!"

If Chiang Kai-shek was not kidnapped and taken to the communists, he might have finished the communists off instead. And if hot headed Chinese did not shoot first at Marco Polo and did not make the assault on the Japanese zone in Shanghai initially, the whole Second Sino-Japanese War might not have gotten started and instead the Nationalists Chinese would instead have went on developing their industries and expanding their highly trained units. But that would have meant a weaker and weaker CCP so the CCP instigated the war between the Nationalists and Japan. The Americans saved the Nationalists and the CCP. Had the US not done that, then the Wang regime would have remained and quite possibly could have resulted in the new China. For all the anti-US and anti-western sentiment that Pro-CCP posters talk about these days, its kind of funny out of those three Chinese factions (Nationalists, Communists, and Wang Regime), the Wang Regime was the one not backed by any western power. The other two were.


See, its always right around the corner. The moment a voice from the Japan side stands up to China geopolitical goals, then out comes the flood of history and revenge encased in dumb down historical narrative. And it was nothing to do with Han Chinese themselves, it wasn't even about Mao, or Xinjiang, or anti-democracy, or whatever, just the geopolitical topics of Taiwan, Senkaku islands, and the 9 dash line, and yet, still triggered.
Hai, Hai, you speak again, again and again in this forum for years these garbled historic bullsht, do you make yourself fed-up? I will have a holiday after tomorrow, then I tear up your bullsht.
 
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Japan is gathering a network of defense partners with not just the US but also with many countries in the region. These countries just want peace in the region without being falling under control of CCP China. These countries are Taiwan, the Philippines, Palau, Vietnam, Indonesia, Singapore, and Malaysia and to a further extent Australia and India. Those countries will not want Japan to start a careless war and drag them into it or if they leave Japan alone in the fight then if Japan is knocked out and kowtowed, then they fear the same fate. So no, I feel quite confident that Japan is not going to deliver to your wish of a hasty and reckless war. Instead a firm balancing force in the long term will happen.
:omghaha: :omghaha::omghaha:

IN OTHER WORDS, JAPAN KNOW THAT CHINA REMEMBERS
And it does not matter if Murica with Japan
When it is very well known Murica will throw those that Murica conned to be their doggies under the bus when it suits Murica.



And Japan got no cojones!
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And feared Japan ex emperor need to spend rest of his life looking after and cleaning a public toilet .
To atone for Nanjing Massacre and Unit 731 and Comfort girls that Japanese raped and raped and to date, refused to apologise and refused even to admit.

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‘It Is Not Coming Down’: San Francisco Defends ‘Comfort Women’ Statue as Japan Protests (Published 2018)
The city of Osaka officially ended a longstanding sister-city partnership with San Francisco over the memorial for women who were sex slaves in World War II.

SEE HOW THE JAPANESE DENIED THAT THEY FUCKED AND RAPED COUNTLESS OF THEIR COMFORT WOMEN




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6 Horrifying Human "Experiments" That WWII Japan Got Away With
The gruesome story of Unit 731 and some of the most disturbing doctors in human history.

Please make Japan strong militarily.
And get whatever allies that you hope to bluff to die for you.

Until you think you can have war with China again as doggie of Muricans.

Please do have war with China.
 
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:omghaha: :omghaha::omghaha:

Just make it happen!

I am waiting to do YUM SENG YUM YUM YUM SENG!
And dance on table tops and under table tops and on the streets.

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And so many many Chinese all over the world will be so happy!

Perhaps a public toilet be build where heart of Yasakuni shrine was.
And the ex Emperor of Japan be made to be the cleaner of that toilet.

Just make it happen!


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SEE HOW THE JAPANESE DENIED THAT THEY FUCKED AND RAPED COUNTLESS OF THEIR COMFORT WOMEN


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6 Horrifying Human "Experiments" That WWII Japan Got Away With
The gruesome story of Unit 731 and some of the most disturbing doctors in human history.

Please make Japan strong militarily.
Until you think you can have war with China again as doggie of Muricans.

Please do have war with China.



Murica is impotent.
Even with a container load of Viagra and Cialis, Murica cannot get it up no more.

Even when Murica frotting away, you know , and feel that what Murica got is very limp

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So impotent that Japan knows it too.

Suika said:
Japan is gathering a network of defense partners with not just the US but also with many countries in the region. These countries just want peace in the region without being falling under control of CCP China. These countries are Taiwan, the Philippines, Palau, Vietnam, Indonesia, Singapore, and Malaysia and to a further extent Australia and India. Those countries will not want Japan to start a careless war and drag them into it or if they leave Japan alone in the fight then if Japan is knocked out and kowtowed, then they fear the same fate. So no, I feel quite confident that Japan is not going to deliver to your wish of a hasty and reckless war. Instead a firm balancing force in the long term will happen.
Japan so frightened that Japan scraping below the bottom of barrel and trying to form alliance with Taiwan, the Philippines, Palau, Vietnam, Indonesia, Singapore, and Malaysia and to a further extent Australia and India.

The funny thing is that Suika not joking at all. :omghaha: :omghaha::omghaha:

Suika might do better with getting Japan AV girls to fight in the war.

Or even armed Japanese school girls with spears and they will do better than Filipinos or Indians or Aussies or Palaunese in the fight.

How Filipino fight. With finger gun :pleasantry:

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So instead of those from India and Aussies or Philipine, Suika better use Japanese AV girls or Japanese school girls who will fight better than them. And remember , Murica is impotent

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Japan hoping to con them to fight for Japan and die for Japan when Japan start the war with China and save the Japan Emperor from having to be custodian and cleaner of public toilet build on the very site of the Yakasuni Shrine
 
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Non-Japanese being Pro-Japan.. who would've thought?





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Tanks doing movement show at Camp Fuji for the 62nd anniversary of the camp's establishment on July 3rd 2016.
Hey, non-japanese Pro-japan guy, China and Japan collaboration enlarge Japanese interest, you need to keep this core in mind, then you will understand why your posts are bullsht.
China and Japan conflict can only benefit the America, you fake pro-Japan actual American agent.
 
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Hey, non-japanese Pro-japan guy, China and Japan collaboration enlarge Japanese interest, you need to keep this core in mind, then you will understand why your posts are bullsht.
China and Japan conflict can only benefit the America, you fake pro-Japan actual American agent.

If so then the PRC should understand that the Senkaku islands belong to Japan. PRC should understand that the 9 dash line is unacceptable. They should accept Taiwan as an independent country. And they should let the Japanese PM visit Yasukuni Shrine in peace even if they don't like it. That could start the ball on trust building. The end road of a long trust building path can very well have the feeling of no longer needing to host US forces. But if Japan is viewed as some cheap prize, or so cheap that not even worth the word of prize, then the PRC isn't going to be able to achieve it. The US and Japan both had that terrible war but both war desipite the common grounds of being anti-communists. That common ground ensured the construction of positive rather quickly with the fall of China to tbe communists, the outbreak of the Korean War, and the Cold War with the Soviet Union.
 
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If so then the PRC should understand that the Senkaku islands belong to Japan. PRC should understand that the 9 dash line is unacceptable. They should accept Taiwan as an independent country. And they should let the Japanese PM visit Yasukuni Shrine in peace even if they don't like it. That could start the ball on trust building. The end road of a long trust building path can very well have the feeling of no longer needing to host US forces. But if Japan is viewed as some cheap prize, or so cheap that not even worth the word of prize, then the PRC isn't going to be able to achieve it. The US and Japan both had that terrible war but both war desipite the common grounds of being anti-communists. That common ground ensured the construction of positive rather quickly with the fall of China to tbe communists, the outbreak of the Korean War, and the Cold War with the Soviet Union.
Senkaku belong to China or Japan has nothing to do with you. Even China-Japan bilaterally officially weaken the disputes on the islands, you are anxious like it's your islands.
Japan continue to recognize one-China policy since established diplomatic relationship with China, don't know where you get "They should accept Taiwan as an independent country." We think Japan had realize ties China meeting more Japanese interest 40 years ago then they decided to normalize diplomatic relationship with China, because Chinese condition is about One-China policy.
9 dash line is far far far away from Japan, it's not what Japan should consider.
Koreas care also about "let the Japanese PM visit Yasukuni Shrine in peace", this is not special China-Japan issue, it's about Japan colonial history. Japan should sincerely solve this problem, remove the WWIi war criminals out of the temple, you know it, don't blind. Putting Hitler in your German bro's church, you will see it wrong. Japan viewed as cheap prize or not is up to how Japan solve the problem. You could try to advise Japan move out war criminals, then the PM pleased to visit the temple everyday if he feel boring in his office.
Japan never had commuist with its territory, anti-communists by Japan is a fake agenda boasted by America. Japan-Russia conflict due to islands not communist, Japan-Korea conflict due to islands not communist, Japan-China conflict due to islands as well. So all your mentioned problem can be sovled easily by Japan but the American agents like you don't allow Japan to solve the problem. Japan solved all conflicts with neighbors, America lost all anchors to get benefits from Asia conflicts.
 
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If so then the PRC should understand that the Senkaku islands belong to Japan. PRC should understand that the 9 dash line is unacceptable. They should accept Taiwan as an independent country. And they should let the Japanese PM visit Yasukuni Shrine in peace even if they don't like it. That could start the ball on trust building. The end road of a long trust building path can very well have the feeling of no longer needing to host US forces. But if Japan is viewed as some cheap prize, or so cheap that not even worth the word of prize, then the PRC isn't going to be able to achieve it. The US and Japan both had that terrible war but both war desipite the common grounds of being anti-communists. That common ground ensured the construction of positive rather quickly with the fall of China to tbe communists, the outbreak of the Korean War, and the Cold War with the Soviet Union.

This is the truth of the Diaoyudao island, as well as other stuff Japan had done and not atoned for


I am happy to see what you wrote.

I do hope that is true for most other Japanese as well. As then we will see the conclusion not only that DiaoYuDao be returned to China. That will also be only the start as Okinawa and Ryukuku chain will be back in the fold of China.

It would have been so simple that Japan return Diaoyudao to China with grace.
China will then forgive Japan. And perhaps Okinawa and Ryukuku be allowed to remain with Japan.

But you want to do it the hard hard way.
And scrapping at bottom of barrel and below the bottom of barrel

Japan so frightened that Japan scraping below the bottom of barrel and trying to form alliance with Taiwan, the Philippines, Palau, Vietnam, Indonesia, Singapore, and Malaysia and to a further extent Australia and India.


The funny thing is that Suika not joking at all. :omghaha: :omghaha::omghaha:

Japan hoping to con them to fight for Japan and die for Japan when Japan start the war with China and save the Japan Emperor from having to be custodian and cleaner of public toilet build on the very site of the Yakasuni Shrin


Suika might do better with getting Japan AV girls to fight in the war.

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Or even armed Japanese school girls with spears and they will do better than Filipinos or Indians or Aussies or Palaunese in the fight.



So instead of those from India and Aussies or Philipine, Suika better use Japanese AV girls or Japanese school girls who will fight better than them. And remember , Murica is impotent

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In the coming war.

The fire bombing of USA on Japan will be nothing compared to the hellstorm that will engulf Japan from China .

In the first 10++ minutes, all the bases in Japan will be cratered and hit by the DongFangs with conventional warheads ensuring their planes cannot take off.

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Missile Strikes on U.S. Bases in Asia: Is This China's Real Threat to America?

Shugart and Gonzalez also point out that the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) has carried out drills simulating preemptive attacks against America’s regional military assets. In one such instance, the PLA Rocket Forces “appears to have been practicing on several ship targets of a similar size to U.S. Arleigh Burke –class destroyers moored in a mock port that is a near-mirror image of the actual inner harbor at the U.S. naval base in Yokosuka.” This is illuminating, the authors note, because the only way the Chinese military could catch three U.S. ships in port is if they conducted a complete surprise attack.
After reviewing Chinese capabilities and doctrines, the authors try to simulate such an attack to judge its effectiveness. Interestingly, while they believe China would strike U.S. bases in Japan and even some Japanese forces, they assume Beijing would avoid attacks on Korea “in order to prevent a distracting second front on the Korean Peninsula while pursuing its primary military goals elsewhere.” In their simulation, they also assume that Beijing would not initially target America’s base at Guam since it is U.S. territory and China would want to prevent an escalation that could result in America bombing mainland China.
Shugart and Gonzales run two different models of a simulated preemptive attack, keeping in mind what they know about U.S. and allied missile defense systems in the region. In both models, “enough ballistic missiles seemed likely to leak through to cause highly significant damage to U.S. bases and forces in the region.” Some of the results of the attacks include:
• “Almost every major fixed headquarters and logistical facility struck, with key headquarters struck within the first few minutes of the conflict.”
• “Almost every U.S. ship in port in Japan struck pierside by ballistic missiles.”
• “In most cases, cratering by ballistic missiles of every runway and runway-length taxiway at all major U.S. air bases in Japan.”
• “As a result of runway cratering, headquarters destruction, and air defense degradation, more than 200 trapped U.S. aircraft destroyed on the ground in the first hours of the conflict.”
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Then Chinese cruise missiles will fly in their thousands to take out what not taken out military assets in that first 20++ minutes.

Chinese AShMs will burn and incinerate Japanese Naval assets.

During that time, Japanese command centers will blown up killing all those inside.

See the photos of test sites in Western China of dummy airfields and plane shelters of air and naval bases in Japan being hit so accurately by DFs.

First Strike: China's Missile Threat to U.S. Bases in Asia

By your own Western military experts. Even if they underestimated the numbers of DFs and Cruise Missiles of China in their reports.

The same way they thought China has only 260 nukes.

The same way Mc Arthur thought no Chinese at all in Korea until Chinese appeared in the hundreds of thousands right within USA and UN troops!

First Strike: China's Missile Threat to U.S. Bases in Asia

And then all US air bases and naval bases in Japan and Guam and Diego Garcia and Singapore be rendered inoperational within 10 minutes.

And all assets in the air bases and naval bases hit and destroyed within the next 30 minutes.

All the USA JSTARS and tankers be in flames within an hour.

All carriers within the 3rd Island Chain be burning from end to end.



Remember in just ten minutes, China missiles will destroy all the fucking airbases and naval bases in Japan and Guam. And in the next 30 minutes, Chinese cruise missiles by the thousands will take out whatever the **** the missiles left in Japan.

Whether the mosquito is female or male will also be known.
Your stealth F35s or B1s B2s got smaller radar profile than a mosquito?

Smaller profile than the differences between a male and female mosquitoe?

China Using Radar To Combat Mosquitoes
China is using military technology to wage war ... on mosquitoes

USA or Israeli got any systems able to do that?
Thank you USA for enforcing ban on China in purchasing that from Israel or other countries.
Forcing China to do it all on its own and leaving you either far behind or far far behind.
**And Chinese air weaponary. To splash the air tankers and AWACs and JSTAR USA rely on to direct the fight in the air. And the Stealth planes of USA.**

How China's Clever New Missile Could Cripple American Air Power
China's Mach 6 Monster Air-to-Air Missile Could Make the U.S. Air Force Come in for a ‘Crash Landing’

This is what USA Airforce Secretary got to say in 2018
Air Force secretary: China, Russia could shoot down new JSTARS on day one of a war

There will be no usable bases for USA airforce in Japan or Guam within the first 10 minutes of the war.
First Strike: China's Missile Threat to U.S. Bases in Asia
A Missile 'Pearl Harbor': How China Could Win a War Against America?
Missile Strikes on U.S. Bases in Asia: Is This China's Real Threat to America?
Those bases will all be hit and cratered by DFs with conventional warheads so planes cannot take off.
Go into above to see photos of strikes made by Chinese on model setups in the Western desert of China that represent hardened bunkers for planes and runways and dock settings with models of Burkes and Ticos and the bases HQs to see the pin point targetting of the DFs.



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Naval assets and head quarters will all be hit and sunk and taken out of play.
Then Chinese cruise missiles will fly by the thousands to take out planes still stuck in those bases.
As for shooting war at the sea. And forgetting for time being the DF-21Ds and DF-26Bs and CM-401s that China have and figment of imagination in heads of USA Admirals.
Just on AShMs.
Xi Jinping's Rocket Force is nullifying U.S. military primacy in Asia


Note the DF100s antiship missiles . Revealed only in Oct 2019. Mach 5 and range of 1000 km.





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https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/chinas-df-100-missile-good-enough-kill-americas-navy-96476


China got 3000++ of Mach 3s YJ-12 and YJ18 to throw against the 11 carriers USA want to bring to their self declared FONOP.
Or at least 300++ Mach 3s on each carrier group.

So more than enough to spare for Japanese destroyers or whatever they got floating on the water and thinking of using on China.

Assuming only 20 % of those will hit. So be assured that at least 10 missiles will hit the carrier and not just 1 missile.
And not just the warhead, there will be 2–3 tons of missiles coming behind the warhead at Mach 3 tearing into the bulkheads and ordnance and aviation fuel and the poor men and women in the carrier. Those 2–3 tons of missile body will be tearing in the bulkheads faster and more deadly then APFSDS. Andf carrying its own unburned fuel to add to the fun.
Even steel will burn when hit with hell fire and tons of steel and debris coming in at Mach 3. The aviation fuel, and paint on walls, the bombs and ordnance will all cook off and add to the huge huge fire inside the carrier. Regardless if carrier under Condition Zebra or Donkey or Jackass.
The brave sailors in those carriers will not care or worry and be happy that their carrier not sinking. And only burning and burning from one end to the other end.



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Just see how China from a moving space satellite tracked and focus and kept in the center of focus a moving rocket after launch of rocket. Can we agree that a moving rocket will be much much faster than a moving airplane?

Can the aircraft carrier move faster than that airplane or speeding rocket?

That same kind of information can be relayed onto DF21D DF26B as to where the carrier is and heading to.

Enough information to hit the medulla oblongata of that carrier.

And do not think 1 DF26B got one warhead only.
Remember the throw weight of DF26B is 1,800 kg, and half of that for DF21D.
A 100 kg of anything coming down at Mach 10 to Mach 15 will be very very bad news for anything that it hit.

It might amuse you all to know not only are there 300++ DF21Ds and DF26Bs.

There is a strong possibility that those are MIRVED. To maximise the chances of your brave sailors you send will remain forever young.

And in short time, DiaoYuDao will be back with China together with Okinawa and Ryuku islands.



Yasukuni Shrine will be razed and turned into a park as memorial to victims of Nanjing Massacre and Unit 731 and comfort women used by Japanese Army in WW2.


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On December 13, 2016, the National Public Sacrifice Ceremony of the Nanjing Massacre Killers was held in Nanjing, Jiangsu Province.



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6 Horrifying Human "Experiments" That WWII Japan Got Away With
The gruesome story of Unit 731 and some of the most disturbing doctors in human history.
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Please do have war with China.

Go play games of chicken with China around DiaoYuDao which is Chinese stolen by Japan or trying to be bully boy at first Island chain for USA.


Choice for Japan to make.
China will do the rest.

I be happy to go Yum Seng and dance on table tops and streets with many other very happy Chinese.:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:
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And in short time, DiaoYuDao will be back with China together with Okinawa and Ryuku islands.

Yasukuni Shrine will be razed and turned into a park as memorial to victims of Nanjing Massacre and Unit 731 and comfort women used by Japanese Army in WW2.
A public toilet will be build where the Yasukuni Shrine used to be.
And the emperor of Japan will be made the custodian and cleaner of that toilet.

So do insist that Diaoyudao is Japanese.
And may you get to see your Japanese Emperor becoming the cleaner of that public toilet where Yasukini Shrine used to be
 
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@Suika I am not saying America force Japan to this direction right or wrong, it doesn't matter. America has its interests, this can meets American interests. But, hey as a non-Japanese pro-Japan guy, you should consider Japanese interests, right? Japanese interests from 3 main parts, economy, politics / diplomatic and security. Collaborate with China, Japan can get the 3 benefits. Economy interests is obvious, you understand, so I emphasize on other 2 parts. About politics / diplomatic interests, if China don't attack its colonial and wwii history after Japan solve it, we think China can help Japan a lot get much higher prize at least in Asia, Africa and South America. Security interests, it's obvious, in the whole Area, China has biggest military power to threaten Japan securiry,(America-Japan already has 70 year friendship) collaboration with China, Japan will lose the security concerns.
 
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Senkaku belong to China or Japan has nothing to do with you. Even China-Japan bilaterally officially weaken the disputes on the islands, you are anxious like it's your islands.
Japan continue to recognize one-China policy since established diplomatic relationship with China, don't know where you get "They should accept Taiwan as an independent country." We think Japan had realize ties China meeting more Japanese interest 40 years ago then they decided to normalize diplomatic relationship with China, because Chinese condition is about One-China policy.
9 dash line is far far far away from Japan, it's not what Japan should consider.
Koreas care also about "let the Japanese PM visit Yasukuni Shrine in peace", this is not special China-Japan issue, it's about Japan colonial history. Japan should sincerely solve this problem, remove the WWIi war criminals out of the temple, you know it, don't blind. Putting Hitler in your German bro's church, you will see it wrong. Japan viewed as cheap prize or not is up to how Japan solve the problem. You could try to advise Japan move out war criminals, then the PM pleased to visit the temple everyday if he feel boring in his office.
Japan never had commuist with its territory, anti-communists by Japan is a fake agenda boasted by America. Japan-Russia conflict due to islands not communist, Japan-Korea conflict due to islands not communist, Japan-China conflict due to islands as well. So all your mentioned problem can be sovled easily by Japan but the American agents like you don't allow Japan to solve the problem. Japan solved all conflicts with neighbors, America lost all anchors to get benefits from Asia conflicts.

If the China side on the forums keeps saying that the Senkaku islands belong to China, a poster to say the opposite can't be a form of being "anxious" because its just bringing to a minimum a balance to the air waves on the forums. The whole "you are anxious" "you are desperate" and so on, is a cheap trick to attack the poster as if being rationally unfit and posting on illogical motive. *yawn* This thread is only about JSDF activities and my posting in the thread has stayed honest on it. But you tow coming here with all this are the desperate ones because a genuine look at JSDF activities is something you guys don't like others to see, or at least, I reckon. Go stick the history blah blah in another thread?

The US has its war related narrative. The PRC has it. Russia with the SU has it. The narrative surrounding the Japanese war dead is no worse than the narratives in these other countries. The PRC labeling it with such a narrow empahsis on creating a perception that it is all only about glorifying the old empire is another example that the PRC cannot achieve trust. I'm certain the Japanese side in general takes no issue with the PRC or Taiwan holding ceremomy and a sacred place for their war dead. The war criminals are part of the exaggeration from victor's glory. Hitler carried out genocide and took Germany on a more one sided cause for the war in Europe. This point was made in this post some time ago:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/sout...ympic-row-deepens.641895/page-3#post-11875781

And yet Mao killed more Chinese during peace time than the Japanese did during war time yet Mao's face is on every single currency bill in the PRC and a big face of him at Tienamen Square where as Tojo is imaged almost no where in Japan. Stalin is another one that escapes the "war criminal" only for being on the ally side.

Post is already big and I think I'll just let the readers explore for themselves about Imperial Japan being anti-communist. But your points about Japan-Russia islands and Japan-Korea conflict not due to being anti-communist is just sloppy and out of context on your part.
 
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@Suika I am not saying America force Japan to this direction right or wrong, it doesn't matter. America has its interests, this can meets American interests. But, hey as a non-Japanese pro-Japan guy, you should consider Japanese interests, right? Japanese interests from 3 main parts, economy, politics / diplomatic and security. Collaborate with China, Japan can get the 3 benefits. Economy interests is obvious, you understand, so I emphasize on other 2 parts. About politics / diplomatic interests, if China don't attack its colonial and wwii history after Japan solve it, we think China can help Japan a lot get much higher prize at least in Asia, Africa and South America. Security interests, it's obvious, in the whole Area, China has biggest military power to threaten Japan securiry,(America-Japan already has 70 year friendship) collaboration with China, Japan will lose the security concerns.

The Senkaku islands belong to Japan. Taiwan is not part of CCP China. And the 9 dash line is unacceptable. Those are obviously the key interests points of Japanese foreign policy.

But then next comes the "Japan did it because its a US lapdog".

And yet when Japan joins RCEP then its "Japan and China are bestest of friends and doesn't follow America"

In short, if you or CCP China doesn't like it, its criticized as US lapdog activity. If you are CCP China likes it, then its Japan being new future ally of China.

Well reality is that Japan serves Japan interests too. And some of Japan's interest resonates with the other surrounding countries in the region such as Vietnam, the Philippines, Singapore, Taiwan, India, and so on, which is why they cooporate with Japan on defense matters. Maybe these countires don't want to put all their reliance on only the US for balancing against China right? Maybe they look to Japan to be a force to balance China as well. And surely it may go the other way too. If those countries feel too uncomfortable about the US or Japan, then they can rely on China to balance either the US or Japan.
 
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If the China side on the forums keeps saying that the Senkaku islands belong to China, a poster to say the opposite can't be a form of being "anxious" because its just bringing to a minimum a balance to the air waves on the forums. The whole "you are anxious" "you are desperate" and so on, is a cheap trick to attack the poster as if being rationally unfit and posting on illogical motive. *yawn* This thread is only about JSDF activities and my posting in the thread has stayed honest on it. But you tow coming here with all this are the desperate ones because a genuine look at JSDF activities is something you guys don't like others to see, or at least, I reckon. Go stick the history blah blah in another thread?

The US has its war related narrative. The PRC has it. Russia with the SU has it. The narrative surrounding the Japanese war dead is no worse than the narratives in these other countries. The PRC labeling it with such a narrow empahsis on creating a perception that it is all only about glorifying the old empire is another example that the PRC cannot achieve trust. I'm certain the Japanese side in general takes no issue with the PRC or Taiwan holding ceremomy and a sacred place for their war dead. The war criminals are part of the exaggeration from victor's glory. Hitler carried out genocide and took Germany on a more one sided cause for the war in Europe. This point was made in this post some time ago:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/sout...ympic-row-deepens.641895/page-3#post-11875781

And yet Mao killed more Chinese during peace time than the Japanese did during war time yet Mao's face is on every single currency bill in the PRC and a big face of him at Tienamen Square where as Tojo is imaged almost no where in Japan. Stalin is another one that escapes the "war criminal" only for being on the ally side.

Post is already big and I think I'll just let the readers explore for themselves about Imperial Japan being anti-communist. But your points about Japan-Russia islands and Japan-Korea conflict not due to being anti-communist is just sloppy and out of context on your part.
You don't get the positive views at all. We admit all problem firstly, we are not arguing if problems exist or not, or how it happened.
A non-Japanese pro-Japan guy could try to think about solving problem. Focus on solving problem, pushing to solve problem. Advise China and Japan work for the same goal, same direct to solve problem. My non-Japanese pro-Japan friend, solving China-Japan historical and present problem will make more close bilateral cooperation. Pushing China-Japan collaboration, the good relationship will be benefiting most China and Japan from economy, politics and security. This is what a non-Japanese pro-Japan guy really should think about and try to do always. You push Japan to fight against China is breaking Japanese interests. Japan get nothing good from tight relations with its largest neighbor. Do You get it? Am not saying you are wrong or right if you say you are non-Japanese pro-America or pro-anyone. You Pro Japan but all you do is breaking Japanese interests.
 
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You don't get the positive views at all. We admit all problem firstly, we are not arguing if problems exist or not, or how it happened.
A non-Japanese pro-Japan guy could try to think about solving problem. Focus on solving problem, pushing to solve problem. Advise China and Japan work for the same goal, same direct to solve problem. My non-Japanese pro-Japan friend, solving China-Japan historical and present problem will make more close bilateral cooperation. Pushing China-Japan collaboration, the good relationship will be benefiting most China and Japan from economy, politics and security. This is what a non-Japanese pro-Japan guy really should think about and try to do always. You push Japan to fight against China is breaking Japanese interests. Japan get nothing good from tight relations with its largest neighbor. Do You get it? Am not saying you are wrong or right if you say you are non-Japanese pro-America or pro-anyone. You Pro Japan but all you do is breaking Japanese interests.

Well with those three items (Senkaku, Taiwan, and 9 dash line) we can go through them one at a time and then put out more specific reasons as to how more clearly why the obvious policy of Japan sees that it is in its own interest that the Senkaku islands belong to Japan, that Taiwan is independent, and that the 9 dash line is unacceptable. Which one shall we go with first?
 
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Well with those three items (Senkaku, Taiwan, and 9 dash line) we can go through them one at a time and then put out more specific reasons as to how more clearly why the obvious policy of Japan sees that it is in its own interest that the Senkaku islands belong to Japan, that Taiwan is independent, and that the 9 dash line is unacceptable. Which one shall we go with first?
We don't need to think about how to go with detailed problem now.
Firstly we should make attitude and wills to solve problem not to enlarge disputes or conflicts. Make agreement to do a thing, then negotiate for a same goal, then try all best to get a good results.
 
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We don't need to think about how to go with detailed problem now.
Firstly we should make attitude and wills to solve problem not to enlarge disputes or conflicts. Make agreement to do a thing, then negotiate for a same goal, then try all best to get a good results.

Oh good, so then back on topic for the time being.



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2016 Fuji Combined Arms Live Fire Demonstration on August 28th of that year. First half and second half.

 
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