Military Balance of Turkish & Hellenic Air Forces in the Region

[BON PLAN]

French Air Force will use Rafale ( technology from 1991 ) until 2040

but Dassault CEO says No FCAS before 2050 , that means French Air Force will use Rafale until 2050 while Germany buys 35 F-35 to operate with EF Typhoons

The UK and Italy bought F-35
Turkiye develops its own KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet for 2030

even KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet with AESA Radar and GOKHAN ramjet powered long range air to air Missile will able to defeat RAFALE in BVR combat

also ANKA-3 flying-wing deep strike stealth UCAV for SEAD - DEAD role



and French boy BON PLAN calling Turkiye as a panther that sees itself as a lion

France is a cat that sees itself as a lion

The EF2000 customers purchase F35 because EF2000 is only a air to air platform, with very limited air to ground capacity. Not the Rafale case.
Rafale road map is paved until 2070, with at least a F7 standard. We only are seiing F4.1 today, so....

2030? In your dream. Maybe in the form of an aeroshow bird, never a mature and war ready product.

RCS ( m2 )
RAFALE : 1
F-16 Block70 : 1
KIZILELMA : 0.3

LOL. A noob argument without any source.
F16 bk 70 RCS is the same as legacy F16.
Rafale RCS is far lower. It is a LO plane (and not a VLO) when F16 was studied when RCS wasn't even a subject.
F16 is an observable plane, as M2000, FA18, Mig29 and Su27....

 

[Foinikas]

French Air Force will use Rafale ( technology from 1991 ) until 2040

You should be a politician. You downplay everything so easily and praise your stuff like a salesman. Well done.

Stop dreaming. Stop believing the Erdogan's lies.

He only reads and listens to pro-Turkish sources. No criticism,if the MoD of Turkey and the government say it's a superweapon,it's a superweapon. If they say it is the best in the world,it's the best in the world. If the promoters of the Turkish Defence Industry say a product is better than Western ones,he will believe them.

 

[MMM-E]

2030? In your dream. Maybe in the form of an aeroshow bird, never a mature and war ready product.

20 KAAN will be delivered to the Turkish Air Force in 2028

24 more KAAN in 2029
24 more KAAN in 2030

total of 68 KAAN Fighter Jets until 2031 .. and combat ready with BURFIS GaN based AESA Radar and GOKDOGAN-GOKTUG solid and ramjet BVR air to air missiles

The EF2000 customers purchase F35 because EF2000 is only a air to air platform, with very limited air to ground capacity. Not the Rafale case.
Rafale road map is paved until 2070, with at least a F7 standard. We only are seiing F4.1 today, so....

EF 2000 carry STORM SHADOW Cruise Missile and guided Bombs for land attack mission


RAFALE has no chance against the 5th gen Platforms with its 1m2 of RCS


RCS ( m2 )
RAFALE : 1 m2
F-35 : 0.005 m2
KIZILELMA block1 : 0.3 m2

F-35 easly would win against RAFALE in BVR combat
France is losing air superiority without FCAS project to replace old RAFALE


KIZILELMA and KAAN to hunt RAFALE , F-15 , F-16 , MIG-29M2 , SU-35 in BVR combat

And TAI ANKA-3 deep strike stealth UCAV for SEAD - DEAD role

Also by 2025 TAI ANKA-4 unmanned stealth Fighter Jet after ANKA-3

keep dreaming with old Rafale and FCAS for 2050
France is a cat ... nothing else

LOL. A noob argument without any source.
F16 bk 70 RCS is the same as legacy F16.
Rafale RCS is far lower. It is a LO plane (and not a VLO) when F16 was studied when RCS wasn't even a subject.
F16 is an observable plane, as M2000, FA18, Mig29 and Su27....

Most of Source

RCS ( m2 )
RAFALE : 1 m2

Radar Cross Section (RCS)

www.globalsecurity.org

 

[BON PLAN]

20 KAAN will be delivered to the Turkish Air Force in 2028

24 more KAAN in 2029
24 more KAAN in 2030

Turkey in the hands of IMF before. In other words, you will be in bankrupt before.

RCS ( m2 )
RAFALE : 1 m2

Radar Cross Section (RCS)

www.globalsecurity.org

You called that a serious source ? my poor....

 

[Foinikas]

Turkey in the hands of IMF before. In other words, you will be in bankrupt before.

"Old Rafale"...this guy is such an expert.

MMM-E what's your job again? What did you study? How come you're an "expert"?