shr_bwp
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Gentlemen:
Do NOT underestimate the Bison.
Please visit the thread:
http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...usaf-briefing-about-iaf-participation-15.html
and pay close attention to the presenter Fornuff who is very complimentary of the Bison.
He actually praises its "stealth" capability because of its small size and modern upgrades (including Israeli equipment) as compared to the SU-30.
I would not be surprised if the PAF procured the F7 for precisely this reason.
Here is some additional information on what the US AF think of the MiG-21:
"In part I, Fornuff mentions "4477 TES" - this was a MiG "exploitation" program run out of Tonopah, NV since 1974, now discontinued and declassified in 1989, and is detailed in a remarkable book "Red Eagles" by Steven Davies. I am reading it right now and it is a great description of how the USAF, Navy learned how to deal with MiGs by flying them against their own fighters.
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Note that Fornuff is very complimentary of the Bison - a 50's design that is considered stealthy TODAY. The 4477 were also complimentary of the Mig 21 Fishbed (without the gee-whiz gadgetry that the Bison has). One test pilot states categorically that he beat EVERY US inventory aircraft except the F-16 and the F 18, with the MiG 21. Hopefully the PAF recognizes the same abilities in the F7- this means that the F14, F4, F15 were beatable by a Fishbed!! "
Do NOT underestimate the Bison.
Please visit the thread:
http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...usaf-briefing-about-iaf-participation-15.html
and pay close attention to the presenter Fornuff who is very complimentary of the Bison.
He actually praises its "stealth" capability because of its small size and modern upgrades (including Israeli equipment) as compared to the SU-30.
I would not be surprised if the PAF procured the F7 for precisely this reason.
Here is some additional information on what the US AF think of the MiG-21:
"In part I, Fornuff mentions "4477 TES" - this was a MiG "exploitation" program run out of Tonopah, NV since 1974, now discontinued and declassified in 1989, and is detailed in a remarkable book "Red Eagles" by Steven Davies. I am reading it right now and it is a great description of how the USAF, Navy learned how to deal with MiGs by flying them against their own fighters.
...snip.....
...snip
Note that Fornuff is very complimentary of the Bison - a 50's design that is considered stealthy TODAY. The 4477 were also complimentary of the Mig 21 Fishbed (without the gee-whiz gadgetry that the Bison has). One test pilot states categorically that he beat EVERY US inventory aircraft except the F-16 and the F 18, with the MiG 21. Hopefully the PAF recognizes the same abilities in the F7- this means that the F14, F4, F15 were beatable by a Fishbed!! "