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MFN status to India will put 70pc rural jobs at stake

We Indians import a lot of stuff from China and almost all the things we import from China are cheaper than the ones made locally in India. So does that mean that China 'is working on multi-dimensional strategy under the garb of bilateral trade?' and that we 'feared a deep rooted conspiracy on the part of China to cripple down India's economy?' Yes, there is some concern about the lopsided balance of payment, but no one is going paranoid. We were paranoid two decades ago when the economy was being opened up for the first time. A lot of industries got wiped out, but many survived, new industries came up and flourished. Those that could raise their productivity levels and quality did OK. Overall, the Indian customer benefited as greater variety of products were available at cheaper rates. This guy is trying to protect his little empire by playing on basic suspicion and fears on the minds of people of being swamped by a bigger economy.

Anyway, Pakistan will do what Pakistan has to do.
 
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Ah! The bl00dy 'K' word again!! Jeeez! For clowns like him, until India hands over Kashmir to Pakistan on a silver platter, transfers all the rivers of the Indus to them, stops building dams, diverts the waters of the Brahmaputra to Pakistan, hands over Siachen to the PA and Sir Creek to the Pakistan Navy, trade with India is a no no!

This guy Abdul Basit sells EGGS for crying out loud!! His cackle is all c0ck! :toast_sign:

:cheesy::cheesy::cheesy:
 
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medicine prices are lower in india.so if trade opens then indian pharma and auto industry will eat the local industry:enjoy:

Yes on one hand it will affect the abnormal profit of pharma industry but overall will bring consumer satisfaction and will help bring down poverty. In the end, consumer's expendable income and purchasing power will induce more saving and investment hence will lead to economic growth and employment opportunities.
 
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Just one question will Pakistan give subsidy{which will increase pakistan's on fiscal deficit} to the farmers so that they can provide good at Affordable price to Indian Citizen......Ans No....so here we are giving fertilizers at subsidise rate to the farmers so that they can provide food items at affordable rate to Indian citizens ....but when ever these product will go to international market an handsome amount of duty will be charged on these product so that we can reduce our Fiscal deficit...and

IF by chance our Govt is not charging that duty on those products then your Govt and you should be thankful to us..that we are providing affordable food Items to Pakistani Citizens at our cost.........


Moral of the story people should always see otherside of the side also....
 
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What the hell he is talking about the wheat, we are already importing wheats from australia..
Infact i think pakistani farmers will get more chances to sell wheat in india...
And about the medicine and auto industry, it will help pakistani industry to grow and if u think of exporting your thinks than beer and cement r the best products u have so sell it here...
 
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Yes on one hand it will affect the abnormal profit of pharma industry but overall will bring consumer satisfaction and will help bring down poverty. In the end, consumer's expendable income and purchasing power will induce more saving and investment hence will lead to economic growth and employment opportunities.
Chalo ek ko samajh me aya, ...17,99,99,999 more remaining...:D
@topic : Lets the GOP decide the porducts for free trade and then lets see what will be the effect of this...definetly auto and pharmaceutical industry will grow...
 
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simple, just say no
Yes yes, why not to...???
Then don't tell that India and RAW is responsible for failure of pakistani economy...
Man, how many times we have to xplain u about the advantages of this..OK in simple, " If u will allow mfn to india, u'll be able to make more nuclear weapons and if possible u'll make nuke submarine", ..Hope you could understand this language..!!???
 
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Yes yes, why not to...???
Then don't tell that India and RAW is responsible for failure of pakistani economy...
Man, how many times we have to xplain u about the advantages of this..OK in simple, " If u will allow mfn to india, u'll be able to make more nuclear weapons and if possible u'll make nuke submarine", ..Hope you could understand this language..!!???

We don't have to.

Internet fan-boys and armchair Generals do not matter and those who do already are starting to ralise the importance of trade and economic ties with India.
 
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In my opinion, controlling inflation of essential items is more important for countries like India/Pak and if required by importing it from other countries...and if that other country is close to your border then it makes immense sense to import from that country as it will reduce the transportation cost and also the delivery time….

For instance, India is one of the largest producer and exporter of onions, but there was shortage of onions some time back and prices were hitting the roof, India decided to import it from Pak without succumbing to pressure from Farmer Wing who wanted to make huge profit by selling it at high prices…Why did India import it from Pak? two reasons, quick delivery and less price!

So, when it comes to essential commodity, priority should be given to consumers and the industry!
 
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Although I appreciate niaz's view on MFN status to India and his concerns on interpretation, I don't agree with his points on free trade. Free trade will improve efficiency. But at what cost? Sometimes they wipe off local industry causing more serious problems like unemployment, poverty and lower standard of living. Ask Detroit, Pakistani sports goods manufacturers(probably the effect of China is not yet completely felt), American service industry(now even in finance, most people are Asian or Indian), and so many Euro countries which lost their manufacturing industry to Germany.
If you see the world as a black box producing some output, then yes, you get efficiency. If you are willing to let people die in the natural selection process, then all is well. But then they are people.

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I would like a clarification on this. Free trade never hurt any country?!!

Visionary economists such as Adam Smith had advocated Free Trade among nations as early as the late 18th century. Why should a consumer pay to keep an inefficient production line afloat and its owner rolling in money?

In the 19th century many were against Industrialization because it created unemployment temporarily. There was a community of Luddites who were going round the English countryside breaking up machinery to stop Industrialization. Would you agree with their view? Has not industrialization created far more jobs that were lost?

Every action you take will have ‘Pro’ as well as ‘Con’ consequences? Every country has her niche where a certain kind of goods can be produced cheaper than at another place. With free trade you give the consumer an opportunity to buy cheapest and best quality goods. Local inefficient factories will close and instead switch over to those goods /products that they can producer better and cheaper than the imported ones. It would mean improvement in quality of skilled labour and better quality education to produce more competent management. Not allowing free trade has its ‘Pro’ & ‘Cons’ too. In my view free trade has more advantages.

I am convinced that Indian economic boom of today is largely due to the open door policies of Narisimha Rao of 20 years ago when Man Mohan Singh was the Finance Minister. Just look at the job creation in India from 1947 to 1990 and 1991 to now. All the Free Trade Blocs such EU, ASEAN, NAFTA, MERCOSUR etc. have proven beyond doubt that reducing/removing tariff barriers result in great economic benefits. Naturally there would be some sections of the economy where there would be short term closures but should we sacrifice larger national benefit to save inefficient practices? Won't the nation suffer more in the long term if the barriers were kept on?

Chinese imports have been blamed for adverse effect on some sections of the economy in many countries especially in the USA. Don’t you think the only reason for Chinese success is production cheap durable goods? I can understand that USA where labour is far more expensive, Chinese producers have an unfair advantage, but how so in India? Don’t you think it is shameful for an Indian factory to be unable to compete with the Chinese and such factory deserves to be closed?

But all is not lost, cheap Chinese exports created an affluent Chinese middle class. This is proven by the fact that in the early 80’s there were hardly any cars in China and bicycle was the main means of transport. 20 years later China became the world’s largest automobile market surpassing even the United States (13.9-million vehicles sold in China in 2009 versus 10.3-million in USA). So the countries producing cars benefited greatly this includes USA as well.

It is a pity that Pakistan and India have not gained a lot from the SAARC agreement. I maintain my view that both Pakistan and Indian will benefit from free trade as long as it is done on an even and just basis. There would always be sceptics as you can never please all the people all the time. Let us agree to disagree.
 
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Pakistan should trade with India on equal Basis,India giving MFN status to Pakistan is a fake step,even today they have many hurdles for Pakistani products Tariff and non Tariff based.
 
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Pakistan should trade with India on equal Basis,India giving MFN status to Pakistan is a fake step,even today they have many hurdles for Pakistani products Tariff and non Tariff based.

why you were expecting a better deal from India ? Both need to open the gate.
 
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Pakistan should trade with India on equal Basis,India giving MFN status to Pakistan is a fake step,even today they have many hurdles for Pakistani products Tariff and non Tariff based.

There are always hurdles on the Indian side when Pakistanis want to sell their goods. For example, Textiles and Cement, both better in quality and price than Indian counterparts, but under NTBs.

Textile, cement sectors regret non-removal of Indian NTBs
 
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Dear Sir Niaz,

I'm sorry, but MFN is no free trade! All world shall get equal facilitation and exemptions, including local industry.

MFN is an open act of discrimination against the free trade concept.

Even if we accept this discrimination, transparency is missing in the whole deal.

The calculation of tariff and its implementation is in hands of corrupt regime.

No formal announcement is made but trucks are coming in.... while market was full of Indian stuff, as early as 2009.

Apparently, It is much more profitable to build a plant in India, hire inefficient labor and export the product to Pakistan.
 
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