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What differance does it make if haram act is scented or unscented?

Haram act is punishable but scented or unscented will determine offender and the person(s) to be punished. In case of unscented gravity increases for offender and the person offended upon will be considered as victim.
 
Sex between men is forbidden in Islam. Such western practices as man on man sex that are openly touted in sin cities in Sweden must not be allowed into our culture.

Well its practiced in Afghanistan and we have atleast 10 million refugees official and unofficial in Pakistan so
 
Problem is people talk about this type of events after 10 years,20 years.most of the stories are simply fake but some are true but telling the world about truth after 13 years looks weird.it diminishes possibility of any action and sometimes people feel that nothing happens without mutual consent.
 
I don't understand. He is 47 years old, 13 years ago he was 34.
how can a 34 year grown up man be raped.
Do you know who Terry Crews is?

Do you think anyone will grab his balls?

On October 10, 2017, in the wake of numerous Hollywood actresses going public with their stories of sexual harassment and assault by film producer Harvey Weinstein, Crews revealed that a male Hollywood executive had groped him at a party in 2016 but he did not report the incident for fear of retaliation
 
What differance does it make if haram act is scented or unscented?
Seriously?
That is like saying Punjabi culture is raping kids and killing them [Kasur] or saying Mohajirs like you are stinking, ghutka belching cowards that ran away from Hindus and the ones left behind in India are walking lynch eunichs.
Kindly stop!

Must you ruin every thread by making it about this?

This the culture of Afghanistan..."Bacha " and is practiced in some areas of KPK where the nationalist Afghans who ditch the teaching the religion in favour of their culture are prevalent.
Never attack a people!
 
Hey man can be raped the same way a woman can be.. it is act of Qoum-e-lout and it is prevalent in Afghanistan and adjoining areas sharing the similar culture in Pakistan.

Kasur? Sahiwal? and other areas of Punjab?
 
Do you know who Terry Crews is?

Do you think anyone will grab his balls?

On October 10, 2017, in the wake of numerous Hollywood actresses going public with their stories of sexual harassment and assault by film producer Harvey Weinstein, Crews revealed that a male Hollywood executive had groped him at a party in 2016 but he did not report the incident for fear of retaliation
Being touched inappropriately(groping) is a possibility with anyone(Its like a hit and run) but can you imagine him(Terry) being raped? NO! Right? because that's not how it goes down for an adult male. It takes a fraction to touch some one and it would be absurd to bracket that with a rape.
 
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Being touched inappropriately(molestation) is a possibility with anyone(Its like a hit and run) but can you imagine him(Terry) being raped? NO! Right? because that's not how it goes down for an adult male. It takes a fraction to touch some one and it would be absurd to bracket that with a rape.
Why not? It was not a "hit and run" it was at a party in the public. The accused did not run away or excused himself from the party. In fact Terry Crews at that time could not find anyone to stand by him and say that was inappropriate. Let me spell it out for you the man did not touch Terry Crews in the groin, he grabbed/groped/cupped his ball. Even before that the man was making gestures in his direction (I believe he was licking his lips)

Given his statement why he let it happen I do believe that if (God forbid) he had been raped the outcome would have been the same. Just like you people would have assumed it was impossible because of his "manliness". In fact this reason alone would have deterred him from making an report. There are other factors some people are spellbound and find themselves unable to resist. Others who have lived through domestic violence know that resisting only brings about more retaliation.
 
Why not? It was not a "hit and run" it was at a party in the public. The accused did not run away or excused himself from the party. In fact Terry Crews at that time could not find anyone to stand by him and say that was inappropriate. Let me spell it out for you the man did not touch Terry Crews in the groin, he grabbed/groped/cupped his ball. Even before that the man was making gestures in his direction (I believe he was licking his lips)

Given his statement why he let it happen I do believe that if (God forbid) he had been raped the outcome would have been the same. Just like you people would have assumed it was impossible because of his "manliness". In fact this reason alone would have deterred him from making an report. There are other factors some people are spellbound and find themselves unable to resist. Others who have lived through domestic violence know that resisting only brings about more retaliation.

Terry Crew testified before the US Senate and the details are widely available in the public domain. Hit and run was used to describe how easy it is to grope some one in contrast to a rape. Terry didn't get raped because he didn't let the situation get to that point. Terry's attempt to file criminal charges against the accused also didn't materialise due to lack of evidence. Now to the point of Jami getting raped, there is no parallel example that has surfaced so far.
Circumstances that lead to a minor getting rape are worlds apart to that of an adult male getting "brutally" violated.
 
Terry Crew testified before the US Senate and the details are widely available in the public domain. Hit and run was used to describe how easy it is to grope some one in contrast to a rape. Terry didn't get raped because he didn't let the situation get to that point. Terry's attempt to file criminal charges against the accused also didn't materialise due to lack of evidence. Now to the point of Jami getting raped, there is no parallel example that has surfaced so far.
Circumstances that lead to a minor getting rape are worlds apart to that of an adult male getting "brutally" violated.

I am afraid that distinction remains in your head. Terry didn't get raped not because he had control over the situation or did not let it get to that point, but because the circumstances (party/people) did not allow it had it been behind closed doors the outcome could have easily been different.

I don't understand what parallels examples you seek,men get raped. It however is less researched and reported than the traditional examples. Homosexuality being stigmatized for such a long time also forces victims to internalize it for various reasons such as not wanting it to become public or not receiving the appropriate attention from relevant authorities (trivialization and victim blaming -which is exactly what you have done) or incorrectly being classified as a homosexuals themselves.
Lastly, it is up to Jami to speak about this unfortunate event and he has -nothing you say or believe matters.
 
I am afraid that distinction remains in your head. Terry didn't get raped not because he had control over the situation or did not let it get to that point, but because the circumstances (party/people) did not allow it had it been behind closed doors the outcome could have easily been different.

I don't understand what parallels examples you seek,men get raped. It however is less researched and reported than the traditional examples. Homosexuality being stigmatized for such a long time also forces victims to internalize it for various reasons such as not wanting it to become public or not receiving the appropriate attention from relevant authorities (trivialization and victim blaming -which is exactly what you have done) or incorrectly being classified as a homosexuals themselves.
Lastly, it is up to Jami to speak about this unfortunate event and he has -nothing you say or believe matters.

I don't understand why you are feeling offended and ultimately compelled to resort to "You this, You that " when we are discussing a topic completely unrelated to either of us, but if that's what you seek so be it.

The distinction isn't in my head it's your fallacy to not being able grasp the difference between Groping and a Rape. You can talk about any fictional scenario, but fact remains Terry didn't get raped and the police wont even initiate criminal proceedings against the accused for obvious reasons.

It's no secret that men aren't immune to rape, but things don't go down in a way as they did with Jami, especially when the physical advantage tilts in the victims favour. Had he said he was drugged, it would have made more sense then just saying "I got shocked and froze".

Whatever my personal opinions are they matter to me and to the readers, I don't care two hoots about what Jami or you peddle particularly when they are nothing but futile rants out of desperation.
 

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