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Since you claim to be a spacefaring nation why don't you take the lead and remove the Vedic writing below the emblem of India on your spacecraft

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a reasonable demand.

For Rakesh Sharma, we refer to him as the first Indian in space, not the first Hindu.

rakesh sharma may be generally a reasonable man but i would say that in those days he was the only space traveler other than the americans, to bring nationalism to space... watch his vid conference with indira gandhi, with him in the salyut-7 space station... indira gandhi being the nationalist asks him how does india look from space and he without careful thought says "saare jahan se accha" ( the most glorious of all countries )... what kind of stupid statement was that?? he is in a ussr space station ( and not indian ) and beyond the outer walls is the general emptiness of space ( in which his indian-ness won't save him from quick death without a internationalist ussr space suit ) and in this emptiness lies the delicate blue ball called earth... where the hell will india be without earth?? when the ussr space agency ground crew translated his statement, what would they have thought??

No just 80% of the nuts on this forum. If you want to try, start a thread on rice growing. Give it 4 hrs and somebody will bring religion in.

yet you are among the indian members to bring religion here in later posts. :)

What vedic writing? It's an Indian motto and Indian emblem.

That 'vedic writing' translates to 'Truth Alone Prevails'. It is part of the Indian Emblem.

yes but why couldn't something inspiring be sourced from quran or bible or guru granth or more appropriately to a fledgling government that deemed itself to be promoter of democracy and scientific temper - "the communist manifesto"... surely this last work surpasses all other older religious works.

and that vedic inscription itself, what truth and how has it triumphed in india?? rohith vemula suicided rejecting all that vedic brahminism. :)

Because most people in India are familiar with quote Satyameva Jayate rather than the above mentioned??

i didn't know about "satyameva jayate" in school or in the one-and-half year of college that i tolerated.

and Satyameva Jayate is of Indian origins??

are you sure?? :)

I do not know of a single hindu who is devoted to that particular text . If quran would have originated in India we would picked something similar from quran as well as motto .

i could say something here but i will desist. :)

Iran is planning to send a human to space in this year.

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indians ( and rest of desis ) can learn lot of things from iranians. :)

i hope iran sees its first cosmonaut this year.
 
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rakesh sharma may be generally a reasonable man but i would say that in those days he was the only space traveler other than the americans, to bring nationalism to space... watch his vid conference with indira gandhi, with him in the salyut-7 space station... indira gandhi being the nationalist asks him how does india look from space and he without careful thought says "saare jahan se accha" ( the most glorious of all countries )... what kind of stupid statement was that?? he is in a ussr space station ( and not indian ) and beyond the outer walls is the general emptiness of space ( in which his indian-ness won't save him from quick death without a internationalist ussr space suit ) and in this emptiness lies the delicate blue ball called earth... where the hell will india be without earth?? when the ussr space agency ground crew translated his statement, what would they have thought??

yes but why couldn't something inspiring be sourced from quran or bible or guru granth or more appropriately to a fledgling government that deemed itself to be promoter of democracy and scientific temper - "the communist manifesto"... surely this last work surpasses all other older religious works.

and that vedic inscription itself, what truth and how has it triumphed in india?? rohith vemula suicided rejecting all that vedic brahminism. :)



i didn't know about "satyameva jayate" in school or in the one-and-half year of college that i tolerated.



are you sure?? :)

Firstly, it is not nationalism that is being discussed here. Secondly, that statement was meant for the Indian audience. I suspect the USSR crew were smart enough to understand that. Finally, it is nationalism and the prestige associated with that, that fuelled the space race. From the erstwhile USSR sending Yuri to space and Neil's Quotes to the present day Chinese missions. Science and internationalism comes at the very end. That sounds good on paper for little boys abd idealists who believe in socialism. The reality is quite otherwise. You are free to show me other shining examples. Ones that have survived and not remnants of history. None.. :)

Guru Granth sure.. As I explained before, the Bible and Quran are not Indic. Hence, they weren't used. Simple logic. The Communist manifesto is s joke and no successful Communist state has existed or ever will because nature thrives on competition and survival of the fittest. There exists balance on under ideal conditions in all other aspects.. :)

National mottos are based on ideals. Ideals that have not triumphed anywhere in the world... And as you and countless don't hesitate to point out, we are but a very muddling country on the grand earth. How could we be the first to implement an ideal national motto? :)

Rohit velmula committed suicide because he was a loser. Other people suicide and don't blame something imaginary for it. Especially considering he was an obc and a higher caste as compared to the Dean/Principal (I forget).. Ahh to bring up Brahmanism when they are shunned by most Sanghis even.. A new low my friend :) Quite a few of my PhD friends have become depressed and contemplated suicide.. Unfortunately, they reside outside India and can't blame Brahmanism ( in case they were anything lower)..

I now know why you dropped out of college. :)

I'm very sure :)
 
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indira gandhi being the nationalist asks him how does india look from space and he without careful thought says "saare jahan se accha" ( the most glorious of all countries )

kea hootya bna ry hain janta jnardan ko:rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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wtf , what does this have to do with religion? this has nothing to do with Islam, she got to that positions because of her hard work and dedication, not because she was Muslim.

talk about starting BS propaganda, when Kalpana Chawla went to space , no one in India said "first Hindu girl to go to space", do you know how much of a cringe it sounds like...
She was a Christian married to Jean-Pierre Harrison.
 
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satya vachan... i didn't think of that. :rofl:
sir is porosh ny to nationalism ki ma behan aik kr di vayomandal m ja k is level ka hootyapa, definitley, was'nt a very good experience for my ribs :lol:
 
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yet you are among the indian members to bring religion here in later posts. :)

A quote on love and compassion can be represented for religion only by nuts like you, becasue of which I deleted it. And coming from a person who introduced Muslim South Asian in this thread, stinks of intellectual dishonesty.

The text taken were edited to remove the religious aspect. Of course, you already knew that? Communism is a failed concept. Thankfully our leaders saw it early on.

On the topic of the quote, the Quran says 100s of things and the Bible says 100s of things. So did the manifesto you spoke about. None are complete. They are guidelines. But you already knew that and displayed utter intellectual dishonesty.
 
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When we go into space, the wise leave religion behind.....because you will feel all that you need when you see Earth below you.

She was a Christian married to Jean-Pierre Harrison.

She was not religious, period. Even her own husband said this.

Having no religion is perfectly fine within Hinduism.
 
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Reading this thread, seeing how vehemently the Muslim Indian and the Pakistanis talk about their religion, it is easy to see why they are so backwards, everywhere.

When we go into space, the wise leave religion behind.....because you will feel all that you need when you see Earth below you.



She was not religious, period. Even her own husband said this.

Having no religion is perfectly fine within Hinduism.

Exactly. I am an atheist but also a Hindu. As are many people in India.
 
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If you ask me what my greatest dream is, I’ll probably tell you it’s going to space. It doesn’t even have to be that far out – a round trip to the International Space Station and back will do (can you tell I’m thinking small here?). Since there’s little chance of me doing that anytime soon, though, I could settle for shaking hands with someone who’s already been there.

I guess I can cross that one off the ol’ bucket list.

Anousheh Ansari is a computer scientist, an entrepreneur, and the first Muslim woman to go to space – not to mention the first woman to do so using her own funds. I caught up with her much closer to the ground, in Singapore, where she flew in to support the UN Women Singapore Committee for ending violence against women.

Going to space was Anousheh’s life-long dream, along with becoming an astrophysicist. Growing up in her homeland, Iran, she would lie in her balcony and get lost in the night skies, dreaming she would one day be among the stars. “I was fascinated by the sheer mystery of space, what’s out there, what’s it like, and how I could get there,” she says.

The stars looked pretty far away in 1984, five years after the Iranian revolution, when she and her family left the country for a better life in the United States. There she studied electrical engineering and computer science. After meeting her husband, Hamid Ansari, she went into the telecommunications business. Together, they founded telecommunications company Telecom Technologies in 1993.

To put that into context, 1993 was the year when Marc Andreessen and his team released Mosaic, the first web browser.

Telecom Technologies developed a method for enabling voice communications over the internet. In 2001, it merged with IP-based voice infrastructure products company Sonus Networks, in a US$750 million deal. It was the middle of the US dotcom crash.

The tech business landscape is a very different world today, but some things still apply. “When we started the company, the principles of a startup were innovation and speed, which is the same now in Silicon Valley,” she says.

But she feels that back then building a business was much more of a long-term thing. “Sometimes I look at the companies that pop up every day in Silicon Valley and I question what the business model is, how they are going to ever make money, or protect their IP.”

She is concerned about founders coming straight out of college and founding companies (“If Andreessen has his way, even before they’ve finished college,” she quips). At that stage, they may not have the experience and the sense of responsibility she feels is required to run a successful company. “But it’s a different landscape, it’s hard for me to even try to compare,” she says.

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Space is never far away from Anousheh’s thoughts. In 2006, she came close to fulfilling her lifetime dream, when she was asked to be a backup for private space explorer Daisuke Enomoto on a Soyuz TMA-9 flight to the ISS. She underwent the necessary six-month training in Russia’s Star City, and when the time came, Daisuke was medically disqualified – opening the airlock for Anousheh to go in his place. She stayed aboard the ISS for eight days, conducting some experiments herself and even sending the first-ever blog post from the station.

“It’s very liberating [going to space],” she says. “You become humbled by the fact that the universe is so big and you’re such a small part of it. At the same time you are empowered by seeing how small everything is because then you’re like, ‘These are the things I’m worried about? They’re nothing.’ It helps you re-prioritise your life, your relationship with the world and the people around you, with your environment, and makes you realise what’s important and what’s not.”

Her journey to our planet’s farthest outpost was the culmination of a lifetime dream, but there is much more to it. “I’m 100 per cent a proponent of space exploration,” she says. She has been involved with a lot of private sector initiatives in this regard, the foremost being a multi-million dollar donation to the X Prize, the non-profit organisation that runs competitions for innovations to benefit humanity.

In 2004, the organisation awarded the Ansari X Prize for Suborbital Spaceflight, in honor of that donation. The US$10 million award went to SpaceShipOne. Anousheh sits in the organisation’s Board of Trustees, along with Elon Musk, James Cameron, Larry Page, Ratan Tata, and others.

“The way we treat our planet, we’re going to destroy our environment and make it uninhabitable, unless something changes drastically,” she says. “If we want our species to survive, we need to figure out how to live in space. That’s why I think the space program is very important, not just because of all the research turning out products and ideas that help people on earth. And it’s not something we can do quickly, it will take many decades for us to figure out, so we need to start working on it now.”

As a big supporter of private ventures into space, she is excited by what industry heavyweights such as Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are doing in this regard. “This is what we wanted to see, a lot of competition and activity,” she says. “Hundreds of thousands of jobs have been created because of this new industry. Having people like that work on the space program gives me a lot of excitement and hope, so I can’t wait to see what’s going to happen in the next five years.”

Be the change

Anousheh’s story is certainly an inspirational one, particularly for women who want to get into science, engineering, and computers. “You have to be persistent and patient,” she says.

“I look at my life, and even though I’ve always thought about going to space, I had to consider other options and build a career in something completely different. But that doesn’t mean that you’ll forget what you want to do, even if you have to take a detour. I know women sometimes start believing they’re not meant to do something, especially when there are cultural or family restrictions where they live, so they put that limitation on themselves. Even if the opportunity comes, they don’t see it, they’ve forgotten about it. So it’s important not to forget, to always be prepared.”

The fact that even supposedly enlightened places such as Silicon Valley still have significant problems with diversity and women makes that even more important. “You would think the most forward-looking people are in Silicon Valley,” Anousheh says. “When I talk about women’s issues in the Middle East, I tell people that – women are exploited in the US as well, just in different ways.”

As the industry matures and develops, Anousheh hopes to return to space one day. “I will definitely fly with [Richard Branson’s private commercial spaceflight company] Virgin Galactic when it’s ready. If the opportunity comes, I’m not going to give up my seat!” she laughs.

New ventures

In 2006, she co-founded her latest company, Prodea Systems, where she is currently chairman and CEO. Prodea started out of a simple idea: to use technology to make every-day life easier, Anousheh tells me. That sounds more than a little vague, but keep in mind the world hadn’t even seen the iPhone at that point.

Prodea is a platform that allows several different kinds of devices to talk to it, with the purpose of gathering data and providing useful results. “We sit in the core of someone’s digital life and bring all the services together in one platform,” Anousheh explains.

For example, she says, you can have a simple webcam and a health-tracking wearable – the camera sees you returning home at the end of the day, while your wearable transmits your health status. Prodea’s platform can take all that information and provide suggestions, such as taking a rest, going for some exercise, or trying a particular meal.

Prodea has integrated several major manufacturers’ brands into its system, Anousheh says. The platform supports sensors, cameras, mobile devices, different operating systems, health devices, and more. “It’s been a complicated, difficult problem to solve, but it’s what we’re good at,” she explains. “We built it to be flexible and scalable.”

Social impact

Prodea’s system for the internet of things isn’t just for creating smart homes. The company is currently involved in a program in rural India, in partnership with ChangeLabs, ILFS India and the state government of Rajasthan. The program is enabling people in the area to come online. “I go to rural Rajasthan, and there’s a 4G network,” Anousheh says. But people there don’t always have the devices to access the internet – a lot of them don’t even know what it is except for incarnations like Whatsapp and Facebook.

So Prodea wants to bring those people online. Seeing as most of them TVs, the company provides devices that turn them into two-way communication screens with internet access. The devices allow the user to view available services by just using the TV remote, which doesn’t require much effort to get used to.

This helps people connect to services and information they were previously excluded from such as government benefits and advice about agriculture and entrepreneurship, Anousheh says.

Meet the world's first Muslim woman in space - The Express Tribune

What is your obsession with religion?? And I am glad that article does not mention about it.

For some sadistic reason you want to take credit for her hard work which took her to realise her dream.
 
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Love the posts of the hindu "atheists" here. They believe if they that if the have nothing to be proud of their religion then follower of every other religion should do so too. I am pretty sure these hindu atheists will be celebrating the likes of Richard Hawkins and have read the works of Douglas Adams while think themselves are desi versions of Ford Perfect or Arthur Dent. I am pretty sure they will be the first to defend him. How Indian is Richard Dawkins ?

What is your obsession with religion?? And I am glad that article does not mention about it.

You have been on PDF long enough. We Muslims tend to celebrate the achievements of other muslims despite their nationalities. Why is it so hard for you to understand. That is the way we muslims are supposed to think.

For some sadistic reason you want to take credit for her hard work which took her to realise her dream

What is so sadistic about celebrating the achievement of a fellow Muslim? Can't digest the fact the muslims tend to a affinity towards their co religionists despite the troubled times we live in. Would you call celebrating the genius of Albert Einstein sadistic too as he was not Indian?

Indian hatred of showing anything positive regarding to Islam in full view here
 
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Love the posts of the hindu "atheists" here. They believe if they that if the have nothing to be proud of their religion then follower of every other religion should do so too. I am pretty sure these hindu atheists will be celebrating the likes of Richard Hawkins and have read the works of Douglas Adams while think themselves are desi versions of Ford Perfect or Arthur Dent. I am pretty sure they will be the first to defend him. How Indian is Richard Dawkins ?



You have been on PDF long enough. We Muslims tend to celebrate the achievements of other muslims despite their nationalities. Why is it so hard for you to understand. That is the way we muslims are supposed to think.



What is so sadistic about celebrating the achievement of a fellow Muslim? Can't digest the fact the muslims tend to a affinity towards their co religionists despite the troubled times we live in. Would you call celebrating the genius of Albert Einstein sadistic too as he was not Indian?

Indian hatred of showing anything positive regarding to Islam in full view here

begani shaadi mein abdulla deewana.:lol:
 
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LOL now I have to teach you about your own religion

Forming an integral part of the emblem is the motto inscribed below the abacus in Devanagari script: Satyameva jayate सत्यमेव जयते (English: Truth Alone Triumphs). This is a quote from Mundaka Upanishad,the concluding part of the sacred Hindu Vedas.
Please know some more facts about India -
1. The national motto "Satyamev Jayate" is taken from an ancient hindu text Mundaka Upanishad.
2. The national emblem is taken from the Ashoka Pillar in Sarnath which is a buddhist religious place.
3. The center of Indian flag "the Ashoka Chakra" too is taken from the buddhists.
4. India's quomi tarana "sare jahan se acchha hindostan hamara" is taken from Iqbal's collection who is the national poet of Pakistan.
5. The constitution of India in its preamble declares the nation a secular nation.

What greek and latin is to europe, arabic is to middle east, sanskrit is to India. If India adopted her motto as "satyamev jayate", she would have adopted it even if it was mentioned not in a hindu text but a buddhist, jain or sikh text. Its not wise to think that it was adopted because its a hindu script. if that was the reason, India's national emblem and symbol would not have been from buddhist sculpture.
 
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Only Muslims has ability to turn everything into religion. I have never heard , first Christian in space, first Hindu in space, first Jew in space, first Buddhist in space etc. How can an human carry this religious things 24/7 hours on his mind?
Yea you never heard this shit

Ancient Indian aircraft on agenda of major science conference

Indian Vedic myths tell of ancient pilots flying craft around the world and out of this world. But some think the myths were true, and that modern science has it all wrong.

  • January 2, 2015 10:10 AM PST Updated: January 3, 2015 5:00 AM PST
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Plans for an ancient Indian flying machineWikimedia Commons
The Wright brothers were a little late to the aviation game when you consider that pilots in ancient India were flying aircraft not only around the world, but from planet to planet as well. At least, that's one of the claims scheduled to be presented at the Indian Science Congress beginning Saturday at the University of Mumbai, in a session titled "Ancient Indian Aviation Technology."

The presenters of the session are apparently serious in their belief that ancient Indian planes were not only able to travel across the solar system, but also "could move left, right, as well as backwards, unlike modern planes which only fly forward," according to one of the speakers, Captain Anand J Bodas, quoted in the Mumbai Mirror.


It's easy enough to fly around the Internet and find plenty of material from folks who believe we were visited by ancient astronauts or that humans had cracked flight much earlier than 1903. But the Indian Science Congress is not the type of gathering where you would normally find such topics on the agenda. Most of the other sessions are on topics more fitting of a university science setting, such as biodiversity, quantum chemistry or fusion.

The session is tucked into a symposium on "Ancient Sciences Through Sanskrit," with other talks on things like the "Neuroscience of Yoga" or "Scientific Principles of Ancient Indian Architecture and Civil Engineering."

The idea of mixing in a serious talk on ancient Indian astronauts with presentations on more rigorous research and science policy issues at a major science conference has drawn the ire of Dr. Ram Prasad Gandhiraman, a NASA scientist at the agency's Ames research center in California. Gandhiraman has collected hundreds of signatures from other scientists around the world on a petition demanding that the session be cancelled.


The petition also cites what Gandhiraman sees as increasing political attempts to mix mythology and science in India:

How does this motto talks about religion? Muslims have an uncanny and erringly strange habit of seeing everything from green tinted glasses of religion :D .
And this is what your hinduvata president Modi said about vedic scientific age lol
“We worship (elephant god) Lord Ganesha. There must have been some plastic surgeon at that time who got an elephant’s head on the body of a human being and began the practice of plastic surgery,”

Indian prime minister claims genetic science existed in ancient times | World news | The Guardian
 
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begani shaadi mein abdulla deewana.:lol:

Yup we can't celebrate the achievement of a Muslim woman lest we offend some Indians here.
Quran and the Bible are foreign religious texts in India.
Yet there is a deity of English which is worshipped by many Indians. Why not object to that too? Is not considering anything sacred that did not originate in India "haraam" by Indians?

@Razia Sultana I personally don't care what you write on your rockets. I was replying to @mpk1988 post where he wanted to bar all religion from space travel or as he says Astronauts should not be tagged as followers of a particular faith. I have no problem with that. But then that rule should apply to India too or is just Islamic symbolism/association that gives you eyesores? What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. If many Indians don't read the Veda or are ignorant of their religious history that is not our problem. That won't stop others from noticing Hindu religious symbols on Indian products. Vedas are a religious text fact. The phrase is Vedic fact. When I pointed that out some went space monkey crazy over it. Quoting something without giving credit to its source is not doing justice to it.

Since it is a not a law not to be religious in space we were arguing over nothing. Just showing biases towards atheism / Islam.

So no secular texts exist in Sanskirit? If so why not quote something from Abul Kalaam? Won't that be a fitting tribute to him. Just a suggestion.

By the way religion was not introduced in space by Muslims. That credit goes to Buzz Aldrin
 
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