Meet PM Modi's godson from Nepal

[Imran Khan]

you meen red label jhony walker (had blue and blck and red label but never heared of green label .. might be pakistan specifik for the obvious reason )

i dont think yahan dunhill blue milegi per gold flake is great try it ... har sutte me ultimate mazza

yes its islamic label . kabhi mehngi daru pi ho to pata ho mamoo . desi daru peeny waly ko dalmore ka swad kya pata

 

[GreenFoe]

ye chutiyapa ab nhi chly ga yahan not allowed wahan rivers of sex and wine ? ye kya chutiyapa hai

Ghazi Banne ka kuch to "Jawaz" Hona Chahiye.Religious people are better at marketing

 

[Imran Khan]

Ghazi Banne ka kuch to "Jawaz" Hona Chahiye.Religious people are better at marketing

but humy yehen chayee janab

 

[GreenFoe]

but humy yehen chayee janab

Paise banao ,GTH Out of indian subcontinent and goto some tax heaven

Waise maine suna hai pakistani daroo PK punjabi bolte hain aur hosh me urdu !

 

[manlion]

Aryan word DOESN't exist in rigveda and that's mythology ,LOL who was indra? where did he lived?who were dasyus ? how did indra fly ? how did indra came from sky ? how did indra killed people with foam?LOL

HYMN LX. Indra-Agni.
6 They slay our Arya foes, these Lords of heroes, slay our Dasyu foes
And drive our enemies away.

 

[Soumitra]

a good script for a Bollywood blockbuster ....

What about this?

A train journey and two names to remember

It was the summer of 1990. As Indian Railway (Traffic) Service probationers, my friend and I travelled by train from Lucknow to Delhi. Two MPs were also travelling in the same bogie. That was fine, but the behaviour of some 12 people who were travelling with them without reservation was terrifying. They forced us to vacate our reserved berths and sit on the luggage, and passed obscene and abusive comments. We cowered in fright and squirmed with rage. It was a harrowing night in the company of an unruly battalion; we were on edge, on the thin line between honour and dishonour. All other passengers seemed to have vanished, along with the Travelling Ticket Examiner.

We reached Delhi the next morning without being physically harmed by the goons, though we were emotionally wrecked. My friend was so traumatised she decided to skip the next phase of training in Ahmedabad and stayed back in Delhi. I decided to carry on since another batchmate was joining me. (She is Utpalparna Hazarika, now Executive Director, Railway Board.) We boarded an overnight train to Gujarat’s capital, this time without reservations as there wasn’t enough time to arrange for them. We had been wait-listed.

We met the TTE of the first class bogie, and told him how we had to get to Ahmedabad. The train was heavily booked, but he politely led us to a coupe to sit as he tried to help us. I looked at the two potential co-travellers, two politicians, as could be discerned from their white khadi attire, and panicked. “They’re decent people, regular travellers on this route, nothing to worry,” the TTE assured us. One of them was in his mid-forties with a normal, affectionate face, and the other in his late-thirties with a warm but somewhat impervious expression. They readily made space for us by almost squeezing themselves to one corner.

They introduced themselves: two BJP leaders from Gujarat. The names were told but quickly forgotten as names of co-passengers were inconsequential at that moment. We also introduced ourselves, two Railway service probationers from Assam. The conversation turned to different topics, particularly in the areas of History and the Polity. My friend, a post-graduate in History from Delhi University and very intelligent, took part. I too chipped in. The discussion veered around to the formation of the Hindu Mahasabha and the Muslim League.

The senior one was an enthusiastic participant. The younger one mostly remained quiet, but his body language conveyed his total mental involvement in what was being discussed, though he hardly contributed. Then I mentioned Syama Prasad Mookerjee’s death, why it was still considered a mystery by many. He suddenly asked: “How do you know about Syama Prasad Mookerjee?” I had to tell him that when my father was a post-graduate student in Calcutta University, as its Vice-Chancellor he had arranged a scholarship for the young man from Assam. My father often reminisced about that and regretted his untimely death [in June 1953 at the age of 51].

The younger man then almost looked away and spoke in a hushed tone almost to himself: “It’s good they know so many things ...”

Suddenly the senior man proposed: “Why don’t you join our party in Gujarat?” We both laughed it off, saying we were not from Gujarat. The younger man then forcefully interjected: “So what? We don’t have any problem on that. We welcome talent in our State.” I could see a sudden spark in his calm demeanour.

The food arrived, four vegetarian thalis . We ate in silence. When the pantry-car manager came to take the payment, the younger man paid for all of us. I muttered a feeble ‘thank you’, but he almost dismissed that as something utterly trivial. I observed at that moment that he had a different kind of glow in his eyes, which one could hardly miss. He rarely spoke, mostly listened.

The TTE then came and informed us the train was packed and he couldn’t arrange berths for us. Both men immediately stood up and said: “It’s okay, we’ll manage.” They swiftly spread a cloth on the floor and went to sleep, while we occupied the berths.

What a contrast! The previous night we had felt very insecure travelling with a bunch of politicians, and here we were travelling with two politicians in a coupe, with no fear.

The next morning, when the train neared Ahmedabad, both of them asked us about our lodging arrangements in the city. The senior one told us that in case of any problem, the doors of his house were open for us. There was some kind of genuine concern in the voice or the facial contours of the otherwise apparently inscrutable younger one, and he told us: “I’m like a nomad, I don’t have a proper home to invite you but you can accept his offer of safe shelter in this new place.”

We thanked them for that invitation and assured them that accommodation was not going to be a problem for us.

Before the train came to a stop, I pulled out my diary and asked them for their names again. I didn’t want to forget the names of two large-hearted fellow passengers who almost forced me to revise my opinion about politicians in general. I scribbled down the names quickly as the train was about to stop:Shankersinh Vaghela and Narendra Modi.

I wrote on this episode in an Assamese newspaper in 1995. It was a tribute to two unknown politicians from Gujarat for giving up their comfort ungrudgingly for the sake of two bens from Assam. When I wrote that, I didn’t have the faintest idea that these two people were going to become so prominent, or that I would hear more about them later. When Mr. Vaghela became Chief Minister of Gujarat in 1996, I was glad. When Mr. Modi took office as Chief Minister in 2001, I felt elated. (A few months later, another Assamese daily reproduced my 1995 piece.) And now, he is the Prime Minister of India.

Every time I see him on TV, I remember that warm meal, that gentle courtesy, caring and sense of security that we got that night far from home in a train, and bow my head.

(The author is General Manager of the Centre for Railway Information System, Indian Railways, New Delhi. leenasarma@rediffmail.com)

A train journey and two names to remember - The Hindu

 

[Makaramarma]

What about this?

A train journey and two names to remember

It was the summer of 1990. As Indian Railway (Traffic) Service probationers, my friend and I travelled by train from Lucknow to Delhi. Two MPs were also travelling in the same bogie. That was fine, but the behaviour of some 12 people who were travelling with them without reservation was terrifying. They forced us to vacate our reserved berths and sit on the luggage, and passed obscene and abusive comments. We cowered in fright and squirmed with rage. It was a harrowing night in the company of an unruly battalion; we were on edge, on the thin line between honour and dishonour. All other passengers seemed to have vanished, along with the Travelling Ticket Examiner.

We reached Delhi the next morning without being physically harmed by the goons, though we were emotionally wrecked. My friend was so traumatised she decided to skip the next phase of training in Ahmedabad and stayed back in Delhi. I decided to carry on since another batchmate was joining me. (She is Utpalparna Hazarika, now Executive Director, Railway Board.) We boarded an overnight train to Gujarat’s capital, this time without reservations as there wasn’t enough time to arrange for them. We had been wait-listed.

We met the TTE of the first class bogie, and told him how we had to get to Ahmedabad. The train was heavily booked, but he politely led us to a coupe to sit as he tried to help us. I looked at the two potential co-travellers, two politicians, as could be discerned from their white khadi attire, and panicked. “They’re decent people, regular travellers on this route, nothing to worry,” the TTE assured us. One of them was in his mid-forties with a normal, affectionate face, and the other in his late-thirties with a warm but somewhat impervious expression. They readily made space for us by almost squeezing themselves to one corner.

They introduced themselves: two BJP leaders from Gujarat. The names were told but quickly forgotten as names of co-passengers were inconsequential at that moment. We also introduced ourselves, two Railway service probationers from Assam. The conversation turned to different topics, particularly in the areas of History and the Polity. My friend, a post-graduate in History from Delhi University and very intelligent, took part. I too chipped in. The discussion veered around to the formation of the Hindu Mahasabha and the Muslim League.

The senior one was an enthusiastic participant. The younger one mostly remained quiet, but his body language conveyed his total mental involvement in what was being discussed, though he hardly contributed. Then I mentioned Syama Prasad Mookerjee’s death, why it was still considered a mystery by many. He suddenly asked: “How do you know about Syama Prasad Mookerjee?” I had to tell him that when my father was a post-graduate student in Calcutta University, as its Vice-Chancellor he had arranged a scholarship for the young man from Assam. My father often reminisced about that and regretted his untimely death [in June 1953 at the age of 51].

The younger man then almost looked away and spoke in a hushed tone almost to himself: “It’s good they know so many things ...”

Suddenly the senior man proposed: “Why don’t you join our party in Gujarat?” We both laughed it off, saying we were not from Gujarat. The younger man then forcefully interjected: “So what? We don’t have any problem on that. We welcome talent in our State.” I could see a sudden spark in his calm demeanour.

The food arrived, four vegetarian thalis . We ate in silence. When the pantry-car manager came to take the payment, the younger man paid for all of us. I muttered a feeble ‘thank you’, but he almost dismissed that as something utterly trivial. I observed at that moment that he had a different kind of glow in his eyes, which one could hardly miss. He rarely spoke, mostly listened.

The TTE then came and informed us the train was packed and he couldn’t arrange berths for us. Both men immediately stood up and said: “It’s okay, we’ll manage.” They swiftly spread a cloth on the floor and went to sleep, while we occupied the berths.

What a contrast! The previous night we had felt very insecure travelling with a bunch of politicians, and here we were travelling with two politicians in a coupe, with no fear.

The next morning, when the train neared Ahmedabad, both of them asked us about our lodging arrangements in the city. The senior one told us that in case of any problem, the doors of his house were open for us. There was some kind of genuine concern in the voice or the facial contours of the otherwise apparently inscrutable younger one, and he told us: “I’m like a nomad, I don’t have a proper home to invite you but you can accept his offer of safe shelter in this new place.”

We thanked them for that invitation and assured them that accommodation was not going to be a problem for us.

Before the train came to a stop, I pulled out my diary and asked them for their names again. I didn’t want to forget the names of two large-hearted fellow passengers who almost forced me to revise my opinion about politicians in general. I scribbled down the names quickly as the train was about to stop:Shankersinh Vaghela and Narendra Modi.

I wrote on this episode in an Assamese newspaper in 1995. It was a tribute to two unknown politicians from Gujarat for giving up their comfort ungrudgingly for the sake of two bens from Assam. When I wrote that, I didn’t have the faintest idea that these two people were going to become so prominent, or that I would hear more about them later. When Mr. Vaghela became Chief Minister of Gujarat in 1996, I was glad. When Mr. Modi took office as Chief Minister in 2001, I felt elated. (A few months later, another Assamese daily reproduced my 1995 piece.) And now, he is the Prime Minister of India.

Every time I see him on TV, I remember that warm meal, that gentle courtesy, caring and sense of security that we got that night far from home in a train, and bow my head.

(The author is General Manager of the Centre for Railway Information System, Indian Railways, New Delhi. leenasarma@rediffmail.com)

A train journey and two names to remember - The Hindu

Thank you for posting this Gem.

 

[GreenFoe]

HYMN LX. Indra-Agni.
6 They slay our Arya foes, these Lords of heroes, slay our Dasyu foes
And drive our enemies away.

1.This looks like a ritual hymn.
2.Your point is contradicted ,Foe is 'Arya' too ,Although Griffith Translation is un-understandable .

Here is how HH Wilson Translates it:-

He further comments

3.Word Arya or arya (with small 'a') are never used for people in RV ,they are used quality wise

Examples:
Aacharya -Noble Teacher

4.They HYMN you provided doesn't provide any historical reference.

 

[manlion]

1.This looks like a ritual hymn.

I posted a random rig veda hymn to counter your following comment and not as a historic reference

Aryan word DOESN't exist in rigveda and that's mythology ,LOL who was indra? where did he lived?who were dasyus ? how did indra fly ? how did indra came from sky ? how did indra killed people with foam?LOL

2.Your point is contradicted ,Foe is 'Arya' too ,Although Griffith Translation is un-understandable . Here is how HH Wilson Translates it:-

Rig Veda has no reference to the slaying of Aryans, the Arya in content refers to the Iranians, who were enemies of Indra, Griffin translation is more accurate and close to the original. HH Wilson is just making a speculation , arising from his confusion, to avoid the contradiction he makes up pious/impious -

HYMN XXXIV. Indra.

9 He gained possession of the Sun and Horses, Indra obtained the Cow who feedeth many.
Treasure of gold he won; he smote the Dasyus, and gave protection to the Aryan color

3.Word Arya or arya (with small 'a') are never used for people in RV ,they are used quality wise
Examples:
Aacharya -Noble Teacher

4.They HYMN you provided doesn't provide any historical reference.

the quality is skin color and Indra hates dark skinned Dasyus

Soma Pavamana - 9.41.1 - Active and bright have they come forth, impetuous in speed like bulls, Driving the black skin far away.

Soma Pavamana - 9.73.5 - O'er Sire and Mother they have roared in unison bright with the verse of praise, burning up riteless men, Blowing away with supernatural might from earth and from the heavens the swarthy skin which Indra hates.

 

[GreenFoe]

I posted a random rig veda hymn to counter your following comment and not as a historic reference

Which was bullshit as always

Rig Veda has no reference to the slaying of Aryans

Rigveda HAS NO WORD called ARYAN, the words are Arya or arya (with small 'a') which does not signify a particular tribe or person.

, the Arya in content refers to the Iranians, who were enemies of Indra,

Show me where it is written ?

Griffin translation is more accurate and close to the original. HH Wilson is just making a speculation

How do you know ? Do you sanskrit to understand how somebody translated ? LOL
I have 8 Translations on my hardrive ,want to know more?

, arising from his confusion, to avoid the contradiction he makes up pious/impious -

Was he a Hindu nationalist in colonial india to make up things ?

HYMN XXXIV. Indra.

9 He gained possession of the Sun and Horses, Indra obtained the Cow who feedeth many.
Treasure of gold he won; he smote the Dasyus, and gave protection to the Aryan color

Sanskrit Text:
sasānātyānuta sūryaṃ sasānendraḥ sasāna purubhojasaṃ ghām |
hiraṇyayamuta bhoghaṃ sasāna hatvī dasyūn prāryaṃvarṇamāvat ||


1. There is no word ARYAN
2. 'āryaṃvarṇam' does not mean Aryan color it mean Arya color ,Better color or means WHITE or bright


READ THE PREVIOUS LINES
3 Leading, his band Indra encompassed Vṛtra(Mighty Cloud); ..
4 Indra, light-winner, days' Creator, conquered, victorious, hostile bands with those who loved him.
For man the days' bright ensign he illumined, and found the light for his joy and gladness.
5 Forward to fiercely falling blows pressed Indra, herolike doing many hero exploits.
These holy songs he taught the bard who gaised him, and widely spread these Dawns' resplendent colour.
6 They laud the mighty acts of him the Mighty, the many glorious deeds performed by Indra.
He in his strength, with all-surpassing prowess, through wondrous arts crushed the malignant Dasyus.
7 Lord of the brave, Indra who rules the people gave freedom to the Gods by might and battle.
Wise singers glorify with chanted praises these his achievements in Vivasvān's dwelling.
8 Excellent, Conqueror, the victory-giver, the winner of the light and Godlike Waters,
He who hath won this broad earth and this heaven, -in Indra they rejoice who love devotions.


Indra is god of Rain and Thunder,Slayer of Dasyu Vrtra(Mighty Dark cloud) and so he protected the Bright light ,What is wrong ?
THIS IS CALLED MYTHOLOGY.

the quality is skin color and Indra hates dark skinned Dasyus

Dasyu is word used for Dacoit or enemy and Evil is projected as black in every Mythology from christianity to Judaism .

Here how hindu nationalist Egyptions View it

and others

The Twilight Mind: Twilight Sage Psychology Skills - Julie-Anne Sykley - Google Books

Soma Pavamana - 9.41.1 - Active and bright have they come forth, impetuous in speed like bulls, Driving the black skin far away.


Soma Pavamana - 9.73.5 - O'er Sire and Mother they have roared in unison bright with the verse of praise, burning up riteless men, Blowing away with supernatural might from earth and from the heavens the swarthy skin which Indra hates

READ ABOVE Lines!!

 

[manlion]

Rigveda HAS NO WORD called ARYAN, the words are Arya or arya (with small 'a') which does not signify a particular tribe or person.

the term used in the veda is arya /aria to denote the fair skin conquerors. Aryan, is now universal acknowledged to prescribe a particular race that is fair skin

How do you know ? Do you sanskrit to understand how somebody translated ? LOL

to attribute pious vs impious is ridiculous assumption, the interpreter has not followed the rule of mimamsa, causing inconsistency in the interpretation.

Sanskrit Text:
sasānātyānuta sūryaṃ sasānendraḥ sasāna purubhojasaṃ ghām |
hiraṇyayamuta bhoghaṃ sasāna hatvī dasyūn prāryaṃvarṇamāvat ||


1. There is no word ARYAN
2. 'āryaṃvarṇam' does not mean Aryan color it mean Arya color ,Better color or means WHITE or bright

no dispute - bright - white - color = arya , your preference arya to my Aryan is irrelevant.

Dasyu is word used for Dacoit or enemy and Evil is projected as black in every Mythology from christianity to Judaism .

regardless of how Christianity/Judaism or Egyptian view black - evil, they had divine edict to slay black/dark skin indigenous tribes

 

[GreenFoe]

the term used in the veda is arya /aria to denote the fair skin conquerors. Aryan, is now universal acknowledged to prescribe a particular race that is fair skin

Arya means Fair skin conquerer ? what does 8 fold arya path of buddha meant then?


In Hindi we have the Word CHOOTIA (Dumb)

Solving History with Olly Steeds: Aryan Purity Myth : Video : Discovery Channel

to attribute pious vs impious is ridiculous assumption, the interpreter has not followed the rule of mimamsa, causing inconsistency in the interpretation.

What Mimansa ?You know BS about translating of vedic sanskrit LOL ,can you even read one letter of it HAHA !!


Mimansa is even later to upanishads You Funny periyari

no dispute - bright - white - color = arya , your preference arya to my Aryan is irrelevant.

Arya doesn't means bright color ,Read what i said , Aryavarnam means of higher/better color which is a termfor brightness in that context .

regardless of how Christianity/Judaism or Egyptian view black - evil, they had divine edict to slay black/dark skin indigenous tribes

Show me where they are called Indigenous Tribes .

One of the First Translators(Yaskacharya circa 600-800BC As per indologists) Translated dasyu as below

He is Dasyu who has very few virtues and who causes obstruction to good actions like the performance of the Yajnas

 

[manlion]

Arya means Fair skin conquerer ? what does 8 fold arya path of buddha meant then?

you have a comprehension problem ? I said denotes not means

What Mimansa

?You know BS about translating of vedic sanskrit LOL ,can you even read one letter of it HAHA !!
Mimansa is even later to upanishads You Funny periyari

Mimamsa (Indian philosophy) -- Encyclopedia Britannica

Arya doesn't means bright color ,Read what i said , Aryavarnam means of higher/better color which is a termfor brightness in that context .

why the obsession for better/higher color ? If the dasyus are slayed because they were black = evil, it logical to conclude- the arya refer s to a group of opposite color white, which represent = purity / virtue
HYMN XLI. Soma Pavamana.
1. ACTIVE and bright have they come forth, impetuous in speed like bulls, Driving the black skin far away.

Show me where they are called Indigenous Tribes .

One of the First Translators(Yaskacharya circa 600-800BC As per indologists) Translated dasyu as below

He is Dasyu who has very few virtues and who causes obstruction to good actions like the performance of the Yajnas

I have no cultural/religious compulsion to accept Yaskacharya's 'version'

 

[GURU DUTT]

Paise banao ,GTH Out of indian subcontinent and goto some tax heaven

Waise maine suna hai pakistani daroo PK punjabi bolte hain aur hosh me urdu !

just like indians who speak inthere mothertounge when tulli

 

[GreenFoe]

you have a comprehension problem ? I said denotes not means

Where does it Denotes?? Where?? LOL

Mimamsa (Indian philosophy) -- Encyclopedia Britannica

LOL It say the same ,Why are you providing that link to me ? HAHA Gone mad ? Have no answers ? :O
HAHA ,What mimansa?? Griffith copied Wilson and translated other things from dictionary .

why the obsession for better/higher color ?

Evil is always black in mythologies due to Day and night effects .

If the dasyus are slayed because they were black = evil, it logical to conclude- the arya refer s to a group of opposite color white, which represent = purity / virtue

If demons are black ,Gods(Opposite) are Bright which is correct ,so ??



Where in Rigveda 'arya' word denotes Tribe or even white tribe?
Where in Rigveda 'dasyu' word denotes Tribe or even black tribe?



So Does Rigveda Shows color of people living at that time ? Because people do mention qualities of their society in even mythologies no?

lets see


1) Let Child of reddish brown color to be born--> 'piśaṅgharūpaḥ'

piśaṅgharūpaḥ subharo vayodhāḥ śruṣṭī vīro jāyate devakāmaḥ |
prajāṃ tvaṣṭā vi ṣyatu nābhimasme athā devānāmapyetu pāthaḥ || Rigveda 2:3:9



2) Rusatis Marraige to BLACK syava ( of kanva clan) helped by godly ashvins

Ruṣatī, of the mighty people, Aśvins, ye gave to Śyāva of the line of Kaṇva.
This deed of yours, ye Strong Ones should be published, that ye gave glory to the son of Nṛṣad. RV 1:117:8



3)The Rishi Dirghatamas who is the author of many mantras in Rig Veda is described as black in Rig Veda x.31.11.


Anything More ??

HYMN XLI. Soma Pavamana.
1. ACTIVE and bright have they come forth, impetuous in speed like bulls, Driving the black skin far away.

Read Third one

3 The mighty Pavamana's roar is heard as ’twere the rush of rain
Lightnings are flashing to the sky.

HAHHAHHAHAHAH

HAHHAHHAHAHAH

HAHHAHHAHAHAH

HAHHAHHAHAHAH

HAHHAHHAHAHAH

I can't stop Laughing ,You posted that w/o even reading ? HAHAHA

I have no cultural/religious compulsion to accept Yaskacharya's 'version'

Niether do you have for Wilson anyway Yaska is the most oldest commenter 600BCE+ and if their was this type of war against black he would have wrote that with PRIDE .