Meet Iran's suicide UAV with 2000km range

[The Accountant]

It matters alot as it cant hit at 2000 km as u r claiming as the relay drome cant go inside the enemy territory as it will get shot.

Logic and reasoning should always be priority in debates and not emotions.

We should not get bogged down on semantics. If you want to get technical, then a cruise missile technically is an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV). A missile is generally regarded as a system that is a propelled by a jet engine or rocket engine. Now we use these terms as general terms to refer to systems, very rarely are they black and white definitions. This Arash system is a pre-programmed UAV. If someone wants to refer to it as a propeller driven missile but that's not breaking anything logical law but this is not a description you'll widely see.

Ok so i will call it a missile rather than drone. There is a huge difference in perceived capabilities of drone and cruise missile. Drone is a much intelligent aystem than cruise missile where decisions are taken through 2 way communication with active involvement of drone operators with real time battlefield information.

U want to call your cruise missile as drone then your call. For me its just an attemept to exagerate capbility of a system.

 

[Muhammed45]

When Makran and Roudaki are deployed to Indian ocean this 2000 KM range as the general pointed out, will increase to 4000 KM from Iranian shores.

A nice development to hit Diego Garcia by swarm drone attack. Well done and congrats.

 

[Hack-Hook]

It matters alot as it cant hit at 2000 km as u r claiming as the relay drome cant go inside the enemy territory as it will get shot.

Logic and reasoning should always be priority in debates and not emotions.


Ok so i will call it a missile rather than drone. There is a huge difference in perceived capabilities of drone and cruise missile. Drone is a much intelligent aystem than cruise missile where decisions are taken through 2 way communication with active involvement of drone operators with real time battlefield information.

U want to call your cruise missile as drone then your call. For me its just an attemept to exagerate capbility of a system.

but it can be quiet intelligent in its first 300km well let say as intelligent as the operator there and don't underestimate the AI.
So if you like you can call it "Drone/Cruise Missile" Hybrid

 

[shanlung]

When Makran and Roudaki are deployed to Indian ocean this 2000 KM range as the general pointed out, will increase to 4000 KM from Iranian shores.

A nice development to hit Diego Garcia by swarm drone attack. Well done and congrats.

And it is very well known that Muricans are cowards and cannot bear great pain.
So if great pain is given to them at Diego Garcia, Muricans might stick to
just simple sheep herders in Afghan and Somalia.

Not as if they won there.

Murica can go invade Grenada and Panama and Nicaragua again to win themselves yet more victories.
Can also go invade Luxembourg for the slap they gave to Pompeo.

Maybe go send their mighty carriers against Vatican city and Principality of Sealand
Murica sure to win and very little pain incurred for those wins

 

[Hack-Hook]

And it is very well known that Muricans are cowards and cannot bear great pain.
So if great pain is given to them at Diego Garcia, Muricans might stick to
just simple sheep herders in Afghan and Somalia.

Not as if they won there.

Murica can go invade Grenada and Panama and Nicaragua again to win themselves yet more victories.
Can also go invade Luxembourg for the slap they gave to Pompeo.

Maybe go send their mighty carriers against Vatican city and Principality of Sealand
Murica sure to win and very little pain incurred for those wins

Depends on situation, i assure you the pain in pearl harbour or philipin was not that small .. Its also the case of Korea.

 

[Philosopher]

Ok so i will call it a missile rather than drone.

Sure, that is your propagative. Just know that you're the only person I am aware of that is using such a definition. If you want to use a more accepted definition, then you can use the term "loitering munition".

U want to call your cruise missile as drone then your call. For me its just an attemept to exagerate capbility of a system.

Again, we're just being bogged down on grey semantics.

I have already stated that this Arash UAV can also be communicated with, however this will be limited. The reason why this UAV will not be wholly communicated with is because:

1- Presumably Iran cannot communicate with this UAV once it reaches the far reach ranges of 2000km.
2- To increase its resistance to e-warfare.

If you're uncomfortable with the term UAV in this context, just go with the above "loitering munition". You'll find other suicide UAVs are also described as that way, see below:

"A loitering munition is a type of unmanned aerial vehicle designed to engage beyond line-of-sight ground targets with an explosive warhead.
Once armed and airborne, loitering munitions— which are also known as “suicide drones”—are meant to detonate on impact."

https://dronecenter.bard.edu/files/2017/02/CSD-Loitering-Munitions.pdf

 

[shanlung]

Depends on situation, i assure you the pain in pearl harbour or philipin was not that small .. Its also the case of Korea.

That WAS a long time ago.

Pearl harbor 3000 Muricans died because they were caught snoozing. You telling me that a lot of pain?

Philippines Muricans 13,000 got beaten by 2,400 Japs and Dugout Doug got medal of honor by running away.

In Korea Muricans ran so fast south of parallel even though their fire power 100 times that of Chinese with single shot bolt action rifles one step up from black powder muzzle loader.

Vietnam Muricans got kicked out and they crawled away.

Somalia goat herders bwith AKs and rpg chased the Muricans out. Muricans now trying to crawl away from Afghanistan.

Yup, Muricans won in Panama, Grenada and Nicaragua.

 

[shanlung]

Philippines Muricans 13,000 got beaten by 2,400 Japs and Dugout Doug got medal of honor by running away.

Neither could the Americans hold off the Japanese at the beginning because the Japanese fought extremely well against USA as seen in Corregidor.
The defensive arsenal on Corregidor was formidable with 45 coastal guns and mortars organized into 23 batteries, some seventy-two anti-aircraft weapons assigned to thirteen batteries and a minefield of approximately 35 groups of controlled mines.
The two 12-inch (305 mm) guns of Batteries Smith and Hearn, with a horizontal range of 29,000 yd (27,000 m) and all-around traverse were the longest range of all the island's artillery.
Caballo Island, with Fort Hughes—just south of Corregidor—was the next largest in area. At about 160 acres (65 ha), the island rose abruptly from the bay to a height of 380 ft (120 m) on its western side. Commander Francis J. Bridget was in charge of its beach defenses with a total of 800 men, of whom 93 were Marines and 443 belonged to the Navy, by the end of April 1942. Coastal artillery numbered some 13 assorted pieces, with its anti-aircraft defenses tied in with those of Corregidor.
Fort Drum—which lay about 4 mi (6.4 km) south of Fort Hughes—was the most unusual of the harbor defenses. Military engineers had cut away the entire top of El Fraile Island down to the water-line and used the island as a foundation to build a reinforced concrete "battleship", 350 ft (110 m) long and 144 ft (44 m) wide, with exterior walls of concrete and steel 25–36 ft (7.6–11.0 m) thick. The top deck of this concrete battleship was 40 ft (12 m) above the low-water mark and had 20 ft (6.1 m) thick walls. Equipped with four 14-inch (356 mm) guns in armored turrets facing seaward, a secondary battery of four casemated 6-inch (152 mm) gunsguns, and two antiaircraft guns, the fort with its 200-man garrison was considered impregnable to attack.
And the 13,000++ USA and Filipino soldiers left on Corregidor with all those hardware and lots of military goodies were ran over and surrendered to 2,400++ Japs in three landings made by the Japs on the island.
And that Gen McArthur ran away from his troops in Corregidor for which he was awarded MOH for his glorious act of running away.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Neither could the Americans hold off the Japanese at the beginning because the Japanese fought extremely well against USA as seen in Corregidor.
The defensive arsenal on Corregidor was formidable with 45 coastal guns and mortars organized into 23 batteries, some seventy-two anti-aircraft weapons assigned to thirteen batteries and a minefield of approximately 35 groups of controlled mines.
The two 12-inch (305 mm) guns of Batteries Smith and Hearn, with a horizontal range of 29,000 yd (27,000 m) and all-around traverse were the longest range of all the island's artillery.
Caballo Island, with Fort Hughes—just south of Corregidor—was the next largest in area. At about 160 acres (65 ha), the island rose abruptly from the bay to a height of 380 ft (120 m) on its western side. Commander Francis J. Bridget was in charge of its beach defenses with a total of 800 men, of whom 93 were Marines and 443 belonged to the Navy, by the end of April 1942. Coastal artillery numbered some 13 assorted pieces, with its anti-aircraft defenses tied in with those of Corregidor.
Fort Drum—which lay about 4 mi (6.4 km) south of Fort Hughes—was the most unusual of the harbor defenses. Military engineers had cut away the entire top of El Fraile Island down to the water-line and used the island as a foundation to build a reinforced concrete "battleship", 350 ft (110 m) long and 144 ft (44 m) wide, with exterior walls of concrete and steel 25–36 ft (7.6–11.0 m) thick. The top deck of this concrete battleship was 40 ft (12 m) above the low-water mark and had 20 ft (6.1 m) thick walls. Equipped with four 14-inch (356 mm) guns in armored turrets facing seaward, a secondary battery of four casemated 6-inch (152 mm) gunsguns, and two antiaircraft guns, the fort with its 200-man garrison was considered impregnable to attack.
And the 13,000++ USA and Filipino soldiers left on Corregidor with all those hardware and lots of military goodies were ran over and surrendered to 2,400++ Japs in three landings made by the Japs on the island.
And that Gen McArthur ran away from his troops in Corregidor for which he was awarded MOH for his glorious act of running away.

let just say it was not as easy as that