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MBS visit to the US will last 2 weeks

Accepted..No problem mate :p:
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Bro, Saudi - US relations are something else entirely. It is a mutually beneficial relationship in all respects. Have a look at the speech of Mr. Trump - he talked about how Saudi are creating jobs in the US. To put this mildly, he nailed it.

It is not like as if Saudi - US relations are always on a perfect trajectory but Saudi have excellent diplomatic credentials, and flexible. MBS is pushing for reforms in his country because he knows that a 'rigid belief system' is detrimental to Saudi interests in the long-term. MBS has promised a prosperous and moderate Saudi Arabia by 2030. I hope he succeeds in his endeavors.
 
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Bro, Saudi - US relations are something else entirely. It is a mutually beneficial relationship in all respects. Have a look at the speech of Mr. Trump - he talked about how Saudi are creating jobs in the US. To put this mildly, he nailed it.

It is not like as if Saudi - US relations are always on a perfect trajectory but Saudi have excellent diplomatic credentials, and flexible. MBS is pushing for reforms in his country because he knows that a 'rigid belief system' is detrimental to Saudi interests in the long-term. MBS has promised a prosperous and moderate Saudi Arabia by 2030. I hope he succeeds in his endeavors.
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I rest my case.
 
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It is not wise to cite a revelation from the Holy Quran without adequate grasp of its context in order to handwave a valid obervation. Today, we go through the Holy Quran, come across a revelation of interest and love to quote it when the need arises - we need to acquire an understanding of the exact sequence in which each revelation came to beloved Holy Prophet (PBUH) and under what set-of-circumstances.

That revelation is in regards to jews and christians of Medina who were dishonest people - they backstabbed Muslims after a deal for mutual understanding and cooperation in all respects of life.

Years later, a [foreign] delegation of Christians met Holy Prophet (PBUH) in Medina and expressed their desire to settle down in this region. They were hardened Christians and not willing to embrace Islam. Holy Prophet (PBUH) allowed them to stay in Medina, assured them of protection from harm but requested them to contribute to regional economy by paying tax (i.e. jazzia).

In-fact, Allah Almighty have permitted a Muslim man to marry a Jewish or Christian woman if Muslim women reject him.

Holy Quran is a complex set of revelations. So do not generalize.

Yes, Americans can be a bunch of crooks at times but they can be decent allies too. Recall that American armed forces defended Saudi Arabia from the prospects of Iraqi aggression throughout 1990 until 1991 - not many countries have received similar form of assistance in rough times. Today, Saudi have no trouble in scoring lucrative deals from the US.

IMO, US - Saudi relations have a stabilizing impact - they have a soothing effect on the narrative of clash-of-civilizations.
 
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It is not wise to cite a revelation from the Holy Quran without adequate grasp of its context in order to handwave a valid obervation. Today, we go through the Holy Quran, come across a revelation of interest and love to quote it when the need arises - we need to acquire an understanding of the exact sequence in which each revelation came to beloved Holy Prophet (PBUH) and under what set-of-circumstances.

That revelation is in regards to jews and christians of Medina who were dishonest people - they backstabbed Muslims after a deal for mutual understanding and cooperation in all respects of life.

Years later, a [foreign] delegation of Christians met Holy Prophet (PBUH) in Medina and expressed their desire to settle down in this region. They were hardened Christians and not willing to embrace Islam. Holy Prophet (PBUH) allowed them to stay in Medina, assured them of protection from harm but requested them to contribute to regional economy by paying tax (i.e. jazzia).

In-fact, Allah Almighty have permitted a Muslim man to marry a Jewish or Christian woman if Muslim women reject him.

Holy Quran is a complex set of revelations. So do not generalize.

Yes, Americans can be a bunch of crooks at times but they can be decent allies too. Recall that American armed forces defended Saudi Arabia from the prospects of Iraqi aggression throughout 1990 until 1991 - not many countries have received similar form of assistance in rough times. Today, Saudi have no trouble in scoring lucrative deals from the US.

IMO, US - Saudi relations have a stabilizing impact - they have a soothing effect on the narrative of clash-of-civilizations.
Well, read the translation again and try to understand. I have done some research on it. Please do not confuse the permission to marry Christian and Jewish women on individual basis with this one. This pertains to the alliances and state or community level interactions.
 
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Well, read the translation again and try to understand. I have done some research on it. Please do not confuse the permission to marry Christian and Jewish women on individual basis with this one. This pertains to the alliances and state or community level interactions.
Can I see your homework?

What do you think we should do? Cut all contacts with the WEST? What do you think will happen afterwards?
 
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Can I see your homework?

What do you think we should do? Cut all contacts with the WEST? What do you think will happen afterwards?
There are many scholars available online ...listen to them especially Sh. Imran Hossain. Once you have watched his lectures bro, we can discuss it together.
 
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Well, read the translation again and try to understand. I have done some research on it. Please do not confuse the permission to marry Christian and Jewish women on individual basis with this one. This pertains to the alliances and state or community level interactions.
A strategic relationship is not an Alliance (against anyone)..
 
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Our prophet did commerce with everyone..it is a fact.. and it is different from a military or else alliance..
Commerce and trade yes, long defence deals that make the country dependent...NO
 
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Commerce and trade yes, long defence deals that make the country dependent...NO
Saudi Arabia is not dependant on the US.. it is a choice to go for the best equipment available.. the example of the East Wind and DF-21 missiles from China is a good example.. also KSA has a lot of French and British equipments..and will soon have and produce Russian systems..it is working on near total independence in the military sector..The long defence deals come also with long term payments..so there is some equilibrium there..
 
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Saudi Arabia is not dependant on the US.. it is a choice to go for the best equipment available.. the example of the East Wind and DF-21 missiles from China is a good example.. also KSA has a lot of French and British equipments..and will soon have and produce Russian systems..it is working on near total independence in the military sector..The long defence deals come also with long term payments..so there is some equilibrium there..
Good observation.

Indeed, it doesn't hurt to go for best stuff in the markets when you have funds and you can acquire them.

You are very lucky to have access to stuff like THAAD for example. It is the best defensive system in its class out there - nothing come close.
 
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# In the framework of the visit of His Highness the Crown Prince to the United States of America, and in the activities of the # Saudi CEO's Forum, the Advanced Electronics has signed a cooperation agreement in the transfer and localisation of defense electronics technology with Honeywell.

 
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Aramco Signs US $ 10 Billion Agreements with 14 US Companies During the # Saudi CEO Forum
 
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