Martyrs of the 1962 India-China war honoured for the first time

[shahadat hussain]

NEW DELHI: India on Saturday paid homage to the Indian soldiers who died in the 1962 war with China.

In a first such function to remember the martyrs of the 1962 war, which India lost to China, Defence Minister A.K Antony laid the wreath at the Amar Jawan Jyoti here.

He was followed by the three service chiefs, and the Field Marshal of Indian Air Force, Arjan Singh, who is the only living Indian military officer with a five-star rank.

The nearly month-long war with China, in which about 4,000 soldiers and officers died, began Oct 20, 1962.

Admiral Arun Prakash, a former chief of the naval staff, has described this remembrance as "a gesture of epic significance, not just to a million-and-a-half Indian men and women bearing arms for the nation, but even more so for the two to three million-strong fraternity of armed forces veterans".

Martyrs of the 1962 India-China war honoured for the first time - The Times of India

 

[OrionHunter]

And those responsible for this debacle - Nehru, Krishna Menon and Gen Kaul need to be put in the Hall of Shame!

 

[shahadat hussain]

Nehru is a different issue. That mor0n had lost his mind.. but what Gen Kaul and mENON did was lie about the IA preparations...

 

[Obambam]

It was the fault of its leaders but not the soldiers. They were only doing their job serving their country. They deserved to be honoured and remembered.

 

[sweetgrape]

And those responsible for this debacle - Nehru, Krishna Menon and Gen Kaul need to be put in the Hall of Shame!

Nehru should be responsible for the debacle, but not that simple, I think, it is government fault first, not just the leader's fault!
62 war change the history in some extent, expecially india destiny, 62 war push China to Pak's side completely, before that, the relationship between china and indian were better than that of PAK-China. I don't want to make quarrel here, but that war hurt india too much and influence indian till now!!
Maybe, If that war not happened, there are railway connect Tibet or Yunnan of china to india!!

 

[shahadat hussain]

Nehru should be responsible for the debacle, but not that simple, I think, it is government fault first, not just the leader's fault!
62 war change the history in some extent, expecially india destiny, 62 war push China to Pak's side completely, before that, the relationship between china and indian were better than that of PAK-China. I don't want to make quarrel here, but that war hurt india too much and influence indian till now!!
Maybe, If that war not happened, there are railway connect Tibet or Yunnan of china to india!!

U mean u started supporting pakistan ? lot of good it did to them in '71

 

[Contract Killer]

Nehru should be responsible for the debacle, but not that simple, I think, it is government fault first, not just the leader's fault!
62 war change the history in some extent, expecially india destiny, 62 war push China to Pak's side completely, before that, the relationship between china and indian were better than that of PAK-China. I don't want to make quarrel here, but that war hurt india too much and influence indian till now!!
Maybe, If that war not happened, there are railway connect Tibet or Yunnan of china to india!!

Sometime waking up a person from dream by slapping him is better.

Thats what happened with our young nation in 62. We realized, the ground reality and started working on it.

Had this 62 war not happened and we would have continued to be closer to China, maybe our situation would have been like Current Pakistan or North Korea (both are close to China since years). Sorry no offense.

If we look at the world of today, non of Chinese friendly nation has developed (other then china itself).

I find 62 war/ loss as wake up call for our nation, which has lead us to our current growth & strength.

 

[sweetgrape]

Sometime waking up a person from dream by slapping him is better.

Thats what happened with our young nation in 62. We realized, the ground reality and started working on it.

Had this 62 war not happened and we would have continued to be closer to China, maybe our situation would have been like Current Pakistan or North Korea (both are close to China since years). Sorry no offense.

If we look at the world of today, non of Chinese friendly nation has developed (other then china itself).

I find 62 war/ loss as wake up call for our nation, which has lead us to our current growth & strength.

PAK and NK are china comrades, they are our friendly nation, maybe you think we just have two friendly country. I know you are proud that you have rich friend, Israel, USA, French, Russia, they can sell advanced weapon to you, you rich friendly country, USA seems had put the sancition against you, also no offense!

You think 62 war wake up you, but excuse me, I don't aggree with you on this, a impolite word, you are still dizzy.
no 62 war, as a populous and big country, you can make these progress that you have done, or even more! at that time you were leader of developing countries, and even richer than china, get help from western and Russia, But now…………。

 

[KRAIT]

It was the fault of its leaders but not the soldiers. They were only doing their job serving their country. They deserved to be honoured and remembered.

Completely agree. No matter what the case is, soldiers should always be honored. They died for their country.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

PAK and NK are china comrades, they are our friendly nation, maybe you think we just have two friendly country. I know you are proud that you have rich friend, Israel, USA, French, Russia, they can sell advanced weapon to you, you rich friendly country, USA seems had put the sancition against you, also no offense!

You think 62 war wake up you, but excuse me, I don't aggree with you on this, a impolite word, you are still dizzy.
no 62 war, as a populous and big country, you can make these progress that you have done, or even more! at that time you were leader of developing countries, and even richer than china, get help from western and Russia, But now…………。

You must understand the dynamics of the 60's politics. India was a founding member of NAM. China as a communist country was aligned to Russia. Nehru played the politics of the time and underestimated Chairman Mao. Perhaps South Asian politics would have been a different political stadium today if the 1962 war did not occur. I must however disagree with your contention that India would have grown economically from the 60's or 70's if that war did not occur. India's economic regression was as a result of bad socialist economic policies. War or no war, those policies were destined to hinder our economic growth.

 

[LOVETOALL]

salute of all soldiers..

 

[Contract Killer]

PAK and NK are china comrades, they are our friendly nation, maybe you think we just have two friendly country. I know you are proud that you have rich friend, Israel, USA, French, Russia, they can sell advanced weapon to you, you rich friendly country, USA seems had put the sancition against you, also no offense!

You think 62 war wake up you, but excuse me, I don't aggree with you on this, a impolite word, you are still dizzy.
no 62 war, as a populous and big country, you can make these progress that you have done, or even more! at that time you were leader of developing countries, and even richer than china, get help from western and Russia, But now…………。

those two comrades remained poor where China grew in folds. What a friendship.........

 

[sweetgrape]

You must understand the dynamics of the 60's politics. India was a founding member of NAM. China as a communist country was aligned to Russia. Nehru played the politics of the time and underestimated Chairman Mao. Perhaps South Asian politics would have been a different political stadium today if the 1962 war did not occur. I must however disagree with your contention that India would have grown economically from the 60's or 70's if that war did not occur. India's economic regression was as a result of bad socialist economic policies. War or no war, those policies were destined to hinder our economic growth.

So you accept that 62 war didn't wake you up in economy?
Little can uderstand the politics completely, I am not the one, And by the way, In 60s, SU-China relationship deteriorated, you should know that, they will not help us in that war!
You said your bad sociallist economic policies, I know a little about it, but, you have know it is bad, why break it, and you also are democratic country, you can elect new government, but after a long years, seems you don't chang too much!! many time, I can't understand that, as a more than 1 billion population country, a democratic country, you can't change the bad system which can't adapt to modern society, even a little!!

those two comrades remained poor where China grew in folds. What a friendship.........

Do even our friend, we will not inference in their internal affair, we just give our support to them that they need. From your tone, seems that, If you are rich, you must give them money directly, do not think about their self esteem? right, and china are still poor, but we still send money and material and food to NK selflessly every year, and we also corporate with PAK build plane, share most of technologies, the price of weapon to PAK also are much lower, there are also many other civilian joint project, we don't like western to hype them, of course, even there are such news be reported, you will not remeber it, care about it, accept it !!
And, USA, Israel and Russian, French are rich, they are always be rich, much richer than china, more than 50 year, where are you? as your logic, what a friendship? When they sell you weapon, they need less money from you? so, follow your logic, which country is your "friendly" state?

 

[PlanetWarrior]

So you accept that 62 war didn't wake you up in economy?
Little can uderstand the politics completely, I am not the one, And by the way, In 60s, SU-China relationship deteriorated, you should know that, they will not help us in that war!
You said your bad sociallist economic policies, I know a little about it, but, you have know it is bad, why break it, and you also are democratic country, you can elect new government, but after a long years, seems you don't chang too much!! many time, I can't understand that, as a more than 1 billion population country, a democratic country, you can't change the bad system which can't adapt to modern society, even a little!!

I stand corrected but I presume that you are suggesting that our system of politics is "bad"? Well, comparitavely both our systems have their advantages and disadvantages. Ours leaves an open door for amongst others corruption , nepotism and indecisiveness which are all poisonous to our economy. It also calls for indepth consultation before the military can be despatched and in military operations , time is money. But it does have many advantages. Your political establishment on the other hand benefitted the world's largest nation in that a small group of people determined the future economic map of China and ordered its implementation without delay and without fear of being voted out of office by the people in the event that it failed. However social security, inclusive participation by the people and civil rights are issues which had to be mopped under the carpet. In conclusion, both systems have their advantages and disadvantages.

 

[sweetgrape]

I stand corrected but I presume that you are suggesting that our system of politics is "bad"? Well, comparitavely both our systems have their advantages and disadvantages. Ours leaves an open door for amongst others corruption , nepotism and indecisiveness which are all poisonous to our economy. It also calls for indepth consultation before the military can be despatched and in military operations , time is money. But it does have many advantages. Your political establishment on the other hand benefitted the world's largest nation in that a small group of people determined the future economic map of China and ordered its implementation without delay and without fear of being voted out of office by the people in the event that it failed. However social security, inclusive participation by the people and civil rights are issues which had to be mopped under the carpet. In conclusion, both systems have their advantages and disadvantages.

Yes, both have advantage and disadvantage, that is the part that I aggree with you on.
But, some I don't, as you meaning, china furture are determined by a small group, yours by all your people, in fact I don't know swho decided the furture, I just want the smart group do these. whatever who they are, they all stem from people.
As you logic, you people determine your future through election, but, be honest, do you elect the encough smart leader for your country till now?
And you think china will keep be stagnant in politic reform? in the modern society, money is time, fast change is important, or you will lag farther behind others!