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Every road of purity leads to him (saw).the Messenger of ALLAH
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Every road of purity leads to him (saw).the Messenger of ALLAH
It was British Empire who created as follows.LOL It was British empire who created Pakistan. Jinnah was just their mouth piece.
And btw, Jinnah is a product of Fabian society and was introduced into politics by Freemasons.
And at the moment USA is still world super power and India is in world's top 5 economy. Where as "Jinnah ka Pakistan" only life line is in CPEC.
Didnt know Iqbal was a qadiyani...that is new for me...even more surprising from your post is he never went to mosque or performed hajj.So what event led Iqbal to change his mind that Muslims need a separate state when his whole life was in favor of one "Hindustan" that he so much loved? Were muslims were not being persecuted and mistreated when he was in "Hindustan"? Someone as knowledgeable as him should know from beginning that Muslim MUST have their OWN land with their own system. But instead 90% of his life he was in favor of either British or Hindustan.
Also its a little known fact among most of delusional Pakistanis that Iqbal was a Qadiyani. Even if he was at one point and later converted to Islam, what transformation can we notice in him? Did he even perform Hajj, or Ummrah or did he even go to mosque? Most of converts are so influenced by the religion that they pray 5 times a day, become very religious, and become a total different person that even their friends and family dont recognize them.
Thats why when Pakistani muslims accuse Qadiyanis of their leader being a British agent then they have even a better argument that it was Qadiyanis who initiated pro Pakistan movement and Jinniah had closer ties with British empire then Mirza. LOL
Now watch this. According to Ahmadis Iqbal was a Qadiyani until 1931 and according to non-Ahmadi Muslim researchers he was a Ahmadi until 1908.
Even Dr. Israr and Iqbal's son believe that Iqbal was inspired by Mirza Ghulam Ahamd.
Take Malcolm x for example. He was a follower of Nation of Islam which is not really Islam but later during his life he converted to Islam. He took a bullet because he exposed Nation of Islam and we also know he became a Muslim and he even performed Hajj. All these attribute to be a Muslim is absent in Iqbal.
Thats why I believe that Iqbal was indeed a Ahamdi but had to declare himself non-Ahmadi simply to appease non Ahmadi or else he would lose all credibility and following so he had to throw some words against Ahmadis that had no impact. Not only that, but he also belonged to group of so called "Muslims" including Mirza who were recruited by British empire to serve their interest.
Am I against creation of Pakistan? Not really....
By creating Pakistan, British empire actually did India a huge favor other wise India would have been in constant struggle with current major internal problems times 100 and it would be just massive land with two group of religion fighting each other.
I am not suggesting One Hindustan but a Pakistan 2.0 and defuse ticking time bombs that British empire left. First it was a wonderful gift inform of East Pakistan that made no sense to be included with Pakistan that was not only 1000 miles away but also with India smack in the middle . its like designing your house with bedroom in one town and bathroom in another, then kashmir because of which Pakistan may soon end up in stone age while India is in world top 5 economy (yah they dont have enough toilet is what will keep pakistanis in denial of its failure, and another gift would soon be in form of provinces war and then it will be and then you can read wonderful poems written by "SIR" Alama Iqbal and wipe your butt with it.
It was British Empire who created as follows.
1. USA
2. Canada
3. Caribbean Islands
4. INDIA
5. WHOLE MIDDLE EAST
6. Australia
7. Indo China
If we go by your theory nearly half of the world was created by British. But guess what thats the narrative of those bastards of British who still live in these countries. On the other hand many in above mentioned countries fought for their independence from American continent to Subcontinent and far east. These people gave blood and sweat and tears for independence and now some bastard of British empire is going to lecture and teach different
Now are you that bastard of British empire?
You calling British your daddy and British won't own you what would you call that situation? Because your theory is not accepted by British itself.
Lol now all of sudden you remember all history of revolutionary war. What was war of 1857 in India against Bristish? Ever heard of that? I guess you are descent from those who called British their Masters therefore you forgot that part of subcontinental history. As I stated earlier you are part of that left over bastard network by British.Ever heard of American Revolutionary War? The Americans kicked the Britishers out of their nation where as it was Pakistani founding fathers who encourage locals to fight wars for the British "MASTER". oooo the irony lol.
It was though during later years that US became an ally with Britain.
BTW you need to go and read a thing or two about how much your founding fathers Jinnah, Iqbal, Sir syed, aga khan praised Britishers, so call them the B of British empire.
Canada, Australia were founded by goras, so of course they are going to have closer ties with British empire.
And yes, every single nation were created by British empire during 19th century.
Praising someone makes someone someone's slave? Really is that your great formula to tackle history?BTW you need to go and read a thing or two about how much your founding fathers Jinnah, Iqbal, Sir syed, aga khan praised Britishers, so call them the B of British empire.
Lol now all of sudden you remember all history of revolutionary war. What was war of 1857 in India against Bristish? Ever heard of that? I guess you are descent from those who called British their Masters therefore you forgot that part of subcontinental history. As I stated earlier you are part of that left over bastard network by British.
I used the word Bastard for a purpose if you get my drift.
A slave whenever freed is a free man and wouldn't go look for another master.
A bastard on the other hand can never get over the fact and always looking for a daddy and always hostage to that mentality of that moment.
We muslims ruled subcontinent before British came they stayed there for 200 years and kicked out. Now that 200 years of British rule left many Bastards all over the sub continent which are still living on that memory of short love affair between their mommy and someone who was over for short period of time.
You talk shit about Pakistan be prepared to get every thing that you own disrespected and cursed out.
I did not call them slave, I call them British empire stooges. A slave is forced to work, a stooge works for their master's interest.Praising someone makes someone someone's slave? Really is that your great formula to tackle history?
LOL It was British empire who created Pakistan. Jinnah was just their mouth piece.
And btw, Jinnah is a product of Fabian society and was introduced into politics by Freemasons.
And at the moment USA is still world super power and India is in world's top 5 economy. Where as "Jinnah ka Pakistan" only life line is in CPEC.
The british were keen to transfer power to congress as they had already included them in the interim govt in 1946 without any single AIML member. They wanted a single govt to inherit them and become a part of the common wealth. Even UK PM attlee admitted in parliament on the eve of partition, that they had tried very hard to keep India 'united'.
Mountbatten openly criticized and resisted Jinnah's(R.A) Pakistan 'scheme'. In his interviews he clearly mentions how he would have postponed Pakistan's creation had he known Jinnah's (R.A) health condition. Mountbatten and many british were not convinced of the 'soundness' of Pakistan. He repeatedly mentions that Pakistan should not have been born and is destined to fail.
In the late 1930s the congress party had 3% of muslim representation where the population of muslims was over 30%. Congress made no efforts to include muslims and consisted of many openly anti muslim hindu nationalists and never tried to sideline them. It was a hindu club.
Muslim league was nowhere, it was this hindutva ideology that alienated many including Jinnah (R.A). Jinnah (R.A) actually used to criticize the muslim league for spreading sectarianism and doing politics on religion. But congress's attitude convinced him to leave.
These are all facts.
Nonetheless, multiracial lodges in India gradually became morecommon, as at least a fifth of all the lodges operating in India during the 1870s included an indigenous element.
Masonry began to serve as a meeting ground between colonisers and colonised, and through its teachings it was thought that racial tensions could be calmed.
The British only made the brotherhood accessible to Indians because they thought it would help strengthen the empire.
This idea culminated in 1877, when the Prince of Whales (English GrandMaster) visited Bombay to lay the foundation stone of the Elphinstone docks. The Masonicceremony included English, Parsi, Muslim and Hindu Masons, and the Prince officially congratulatedhis fellow Masons on the flourishing conditions of the Craft in India.
By the end of the nineteenthcentury, Masonry in India was facilitating European and Indian public interactions, and according toMasons in London, this aided in making Indians loyal subjects to Queen Victoria.
Thus Masonry was central to the expansion and maintenance of the British Empire,especially after 1857, when mechanisms to control indigenous populations were needed more than ever by the British state.
Brother the letter or speech or whatever you posted of macaulay is fake.Typical Pakistani distorted propaganda history.
To begin with AIML was a British empire tool that was a breeding ground for British empire loyalists and Muslim freemasons. So no thank you, British empire did not just based their decisions based on conversations of few people lol. These stories are just to make fool out of delusional people who live to live in fools paradise.
Read this 10 times, meditate, ask new questions to yourself, and then I will educate you bit more about your founding fathers freemasonry links.
So how did Britishers achieve this???? see below...
Brother the letter or speech or whatever you posted of macaulay is fake.
The Infamous Macaulay Speech That Never Was
A quotation supposedly culled from a speech by Thomas Babington Macaulay is a staple of social media forwards and has even been quoted by senior Indian politicians. But is it authentic?m.thewire.in
@Silverblaze
do you know what fabian society is?
Before the Fabians, communism was a pastime of wild-eyed labor activists promising bloody revolution. The Society helped introduce the idea of incremental democratic socialism – not just in the sense of Bernie Sanders, but in the sense of the entire modern welfare state. In the process, they pretty much invented the demographic of champagne-sipping socialist intellectuals. Famous Society members included George Bernard Shaw, Muhammed Ali Jinnah, Jawaharlal Nehru, and Tony Blair; Fabian ideas were imported wholesale into the economic policies guiding newly-independent India, Nigeria, Egypt, Syria, among others.
Iqbal is the guy who was Knighted by the Queen and never uttered a word against British rule
He is a perfect example of what mirza ghulam ahmad was to British empire. They used "freedom of expression" as a tool to give local illusion that these leaders are truly against British rule.
And then Jinnah is the guy who was brought into highlight by Freemasons, and goras who were looking to empower some local individuals that would serve their exit strategy by dividing nations according to their interest.
"The letters which form the subject of this booklet were written to me by the sage, philosopher and national poet of Islam, the late Dr. Sir Muhammad Iqbal, during the period May 1936 to November1937, a few months before his death. "
foreword written by Muhammad Ali Jinnah on 13 letters by Iqbal to him.
Jinnah was biased towards Iqbal.
He won't accept it, even if he has to declare Jinnah a Biased person.
He will only accept neutral sources sitting outside the borders of this country.
I can bet.
Jinnah and Ghandi were two sides of the same coin.
So what event led Iqbal to change his mind that Muslims need a separate state when his whole life was in favor of one "Hindustan" that he so much loved? Were muslims were not being persecuted and mistreated when he was in "Hindustan"? Someone as knowledgeable as him should know from beginning that Muslim MUST have their OWN land with their own system
But instead 90% of his life he was in favor of either British or Hindustan.
Also its a little known fact among most of delusional Pakistanis that Iqbal was a Qadiyani. Even if he was at one point and later converted to Islam, what transformation can we notice in him? Did he even perform Hajj, or Ummrah or did he even go to mosque?
Most of converts are so influenced by the religion that they pray 5 times a day, become very religious, and become a total different person that even their friends and family dont recognize them.
Thats why when Pakistani muslims accuse Qadiyanis of their leader being a British agent then they have even a better argument that it was Qadiyanis who initiated pro Pakistan movement and Jinniah had closer ties with British empire then Mirza. LOL
Now watch this. According to Ahmadis Iqbal was a Qadiyani until 1931 and according to non-Ahmadi Muslim researchers he was a Ahmadi until 1908.
Even Dr. Israr and Iqbal's son believe that Iqbal was inspired by Mirza Ghulam Ahamd.
Take Malcolm x for example. He was a follower of Nation of Islam which is not really Islam but later during his life he converted to Islam. He took a bullet because he exposed Nation of Islam and we also know he became a Muslim and he even performed Hajj. All these attribute to be a Muslim is absent in Iqbal.
Thats why I believe that Iqbal was indeed a Ahamdi but had to declare himself non-Ahmadi simply to appease non Ahmadi or else he would lose all credibility and following so he had to throw some words against Ahmadis that had no impact. Not only that, but he also belonged to group of so called "Muslims" including Mirza who were recruited by British empire to serve their interest.
First it was a wonderful gift inform of East Pakistan that made no sense to be included with Pakistan that was not only 1000 miles away but also with India smack in the middle . its like designing your house with bedroom in one town and bathroom in another, then kashmir because of which Pakistan may soon end up in stone age while India is in world top 5 economy (yah they dont have enough toilet is what will keep pakistanis in denial of its failure, and another gift would soon be in form of provinces war and then it will be and then you can read wonderful poems written by "SIR" Alama Iqbal and wipe your butt with it.
Whenever Jinnah (R.A) is admired by people a certain section from the religious right and ethnic parties try to diminish his stature.
Jinnah (R.A) was and is our founder get over it.
I cant reply every post with detail reply but I do want to mentioned to you that it was mostly Hindus and Sikhs that fought war for British then Muslims... So to say that Jinnah asked Indian Muslims to fight for Britishers and in return they got a deal for a independent state is a joke.
I did my research outside the propaganda that was passed on to us by British empire. What I found out that what ever they wanted to accomplish they achieved it by empowering local so called muslims and turned them into leaders.
This is a perfect strategy that no other empires used for their favor.
Lol did they even struggle? Did Jinnah not lived 90% of his life as an English gentlemen? Was he not a British empire mouth piece?
These are not strange theories, its just called thinking outside the box.
Which part of his life should I embrace? The one until he remained as a Qadiyani? Or where he praised British Empire? Or the one in which he praised Hindustan? Or the agnostic life he lived and never set a foot in a mosque let alone perform Hajj or Ummrah?
His importance should only remain as a poet and should not be associated as a leader or some sort of a religious figure. Even many western non muslim writers have published many books and researches in Islam's favor so should we also declare them Muslims?
LOL It was British empire who created Pakistan. Jinnah was just their mouth piece.
And btw, Jinnah is a product of Fabian society and was introduced into politics by Freemasons.
And at the moment USA is still world super power and India is in world's top 5 economy. Where as "Jinnah ka Pakistan" only life line is in CPEC.
Bargained by Jinnah? Yai koikhana hai jis ki "bargaining" ho? lol
To be honest, Pakistan is a product of British experiment gone bad (on purpose)... they actually did that with many other nations. East Pakistan, Kashmir, provinces, cast system etc are careful planned ticking time B (dont want to say the whole word) by wonderful British empire.
I just hate both India and Pakistan. lol
Just counter my argument point by point instead of asking me to read or watch some hero worship propaganda.
Ever heard of American Revolutionary War? The Americans kicked the Britishers out of their nation where as it was Pakistani founding fathers who encourage locals to fight wars for the British "MASTER". oooo the irony lol.
It was though during later years that US became an ally with Britain.
BTW you need to go and read a thing or two about how much your founding fathers Jinnah, Iqbal, Sir syed, aga khan praised Britishers, so call them the B of British empire.
War of independence 1857 were fought by Muslims Hindus and Sikhs against British rule and that was the only time when people of the sub-continent fought British "Masters". Pakistan had NOTHING to do with this as concept of Pakistan came almost 80 years after this movement.
It was people like "SIR" Syed Ahmad Ali khan, Aga Kha, Iqbal, Jinnah etc who praised the British empire most of their life and in fact encouraged local Muslims to obey the British masters and fight wars for the master. No one started talking about a separate nation for Muslims until the British Masters approved the plan.
I did not call them slave, I call them British empire stooges. A slave is forced to work, a stooge works for their master's interest.
The british were keen to transfer power to congress as they had already included them in the interim govt in 1946 without any single AIML member. They wanted a single govt to inherit them and become a part of the common wealth. Even UK PM attlee admitted in parliament on the eve of partition, that they had tried very hard to keep India 'united'.
Mountbatten openly criticized and resisted Jinnah's(R.A) Pakistan 'scheme'. In his interviews he clearly mentions how he would have postponed Pakistan's creation had he known Jinnah's (R.A) health condition. Mountbatten and many british were not convinced of the 'soundness' of Pakistan. He repeatedly mentions that Pakistan should not have been born and is destined to fail.
In the late 1930s the congress party had 3% of muslim representation where the population of muslims was over 30%. Congress made no efforts to include muslims and consisted of many openly anti muslim hindu nationalists and never tried to sideline them. It was a hindu club.
Muslim league was nowhere, it was this hindutva ideology that alienated many including Jinnah (R.A). Jinnah (R.A) actually used to criticize the muslim league for spreading sectarianism and doing politics on religion. But congress's attitude convinced him to leave.
These are all facts.
Typical Pakistani distorted propaganda history.
To begin with AIML was a British empire tool that was a breeding ground for British empire loyalists and Muslim freemasons. So no thank you, British empire did not just make their decisions based on conversations of few people lol. These stories are just to make fool out of delusional people who live in fools paradise.
Read this 10 times, meditate, ask new questions to yourself, and then I will educate you bit more about your founding fathers freemasonry links.
So how did Britishers achieve this???? see below...
do you know what fabian society is?
Before the Fabians, communism was a pastime of wild-eyed labor activists promising bloody revolution. The Society helped introduce the idea of incremental democratic socialism – not just in the sense of Bernie Sanders, but in the sense of the entire modern welfare state. In the process, they pretty much invented the demographic of champagne-sipping socialist intellectuals. Famous Society members included George Bernard Shaw, Muhammed Ali Jinnah, Jawaharlal Nehru, and Tony Blair; Fabian ideas were imported wholesale into the economic policies guiding newly-independent India, Nigeria, Egypt, Syria, among others.