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I Practice Islam preach Islam to only those with brain and thirst for knowledge and i ignore dumb ppl like you So yes i do practice what i peach my slave ur way is out of the door don't forget to close the door.
 
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I Practice Islam preach Islam to only those with brain and thirst for knowledge and i ignore dumb ppl like you So yes i do practice what i peach my slave ur way is out of the door don't forget to close the door.

You talk about preaching islam, yet you do not know the first thing about etiquettes and respect.

First learn how to write and talk to people properly.

Otherwise you will be doing Islam a disservice. Islam does not need inarticulate people with half baked knowledge and a bad attitude to spread its word.
 
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That raises the question of what criterion should the Quran be judged by.

In Sanantana Dharma, spirituality is regarded as a practical science. Sanantana Dharma does not ask for blind belief. Yes, one does have to make an effort to learn and apply that science - just as one has to undergo several years of training to become a physicist or a medical specialist. But the important thing is that each person can verify its validity for himself. For example, when one talks about control of Prana (life energy) and its effects, that is something that can be verified by experience.

The question of belief in God will always be belief in the unseen. Even those who pray towards an idol of Ganesh, are not actually praying to something they see, because they have only seen the idol, not the power that is associated/claimed with it.

As for experiencing spirituality as a practical science, most religions have some adherents who claim so. For every jogi/rishi, there is a sufi mystic, a jewish kabbalist, a budhist monk, a born again christian, who claims some such spiritual connection with the Mosth High.

The concept of Fana Fillah and Baqa Billah among sufis is something worth studying, if you are interested in this type of spirituality.

The first thing on a practical leve we have to decipher is, What is God? What are the attributes that define Him?

Would you care to elaborate on this question, or maybe mr. fateh?
 
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Man created God?
Something created life.... but the important thing is that with that life comes the soul.

Scientists are making organs in labs now but can they make a soul. Answer is NO.

We muslims refer to the Al mighty as Allah.
 
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Individuality.

Individuality is defined by the environmental conditions rather than by some almighty interference. A person become better when he is surrounded by good people and a person becomes a thug when surrounded by bad/evil people.
 
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Individuality is defined by the environmental conditions rather than by some almighty interference. A person become better when he is surrounded by good people and a person becomes a thug when surrounded by bad/evil people.

That is my opinion. You are entitled to yours and I respect that.
Bad people come from good environments and surroundings as well and good people also come from bad/evil surroundings.
 
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darkstar first off dumb word is not offensive in nature google it my friend...
What is there that i wrote wrong?? thanks for the advise but no thanks i have enough etiquettes to make him understand in his own words still being a relatively more respectable to him. He chose to call me master so what is wrong if he chose to be my slave??.

>>>Practice Islam preach Islam to only those with brain and thirst for knowledge and i ignore dumb ppl like you So yes i do practice what i peach my slave ur way is out of the door don't forget to close the door.
understand here it means that he shouldn't argue with me leave the subject if he can't be that good in replies sorry if you and or him as well didn't catch my point the density of brains are if low sometimes i shouldn't be held responsible for it.

I don't want to argue with you my friend go read his posts too and i won't advise and beg you to support me and tell him... thanks. Disservice is a broad term like i said before i will preach to those with brain and thirst for knowledge and men of understanding i might prove u here wrong here that you can't point a finger at another muslims u r wrong:)..explain of which words did i say that were of offensive in nature and i shall reply appropriately now here practice what U peace ok buddy? thanks. My friend watch for ur words use them carefully Islam doesn't permit a muslims to tell another muslim that Islam doesn't need u its not ur property to tell me if Islam needs me or not got my point good think before u speak ok? Again u need to learn to speak before telling me how to speak with ur speaking of half baked term again u have gone against the guidelines of Islam calling another muslim that he has no knowledge and ur with knowledge mind ur language and be careful next time with ur words. My attitude is/was positive and ur no one to tell me that my understanding and knowledge is half baked u don't even know me assumptions if u have any keep them to yourself i never self proclaimed or declared my self to be with huge fully baked knowledge didn't i say i am just a learner like you ? do u even understand what i said go back and read.
so point to be keep in mind
never call a muslim that they have no knowledge i can give you a full story when Mussa A.S said he has more knowledge and call someone he don't and God sent Jibrael A.S to tell them there is another man who has more knowledge then you..
another point Islam is not ur property only nor are you capable of and given authority passing a fatwa.

Without knowing someone completely assuming they have no knowledge and pasing ur verdict is again against Islams rules of law u will only judge if u have full supportive documents and clear picture unfortunately u don't so u don't use halfbaked word again i take it offensive by you. because in order for you to prove i have half baked knowledge u need to bring dossier to prove it. So from my side i apologize on any account to you as a good Muslim and Preacher and practitioner Laters
Walikum Salaam.
 
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As for experiencing spirituality as a practical science, most religions have some adherents who claim so. For every jogi/rishi, there is a sufi mystic, a jewish kabbalist, a budhist monk, a born again christian, who claims some such spiritual connection with the Mosth High.
Well, Religion is all about "God", and if there can be no personal experience, if it has to be just blind belief, then Religion becomes hollow.

But having said that, one must also say Caveat Emptor - there are all kinds of people making all kinds of claims, and some of them are charlatans. So due diligence is a must.

The first thing on a practical leve we have to decipher is, What is God? What are the attributes that define Him?
It is probably not possible to fully answer that question! As Lao Tzu said, "He who knows, tells not - He who tells, knows not". Nevertheless, here is something more based on what has been gleaned from credible sources:

We relate to the external world through our senses - sight, touch, smell, taste and hearing. The attributes of various entities in the external world are perceived through the senses. But the ultimate and sole Reality is formless, without attributes, and cannot perceived through the senses. It must be experienced through the intuition that manifests itself in a perfectly tranquil mind. The Bible puts it nicely: "Be still, and know that I am God".

Although "God" cannot be described, the scriptures of India do stress one aspect of Divinity and that is Ananda, which can be tranlsated as Joy or Bliss. This Joy is said to be the native state of the soul, which naturally manifests when the storm of delusion is quietened. It is independent of any external circumstances; it is beyond the fluctuations of happiness and sorrow that are an inevitable part of normal existence. For example, you may become happy if you are promoted at work, or may become unhappy when a project fails. But in the perfect stillness of the mind, you feel a Bliss that is beyond the ups and downs of the world.

In fact, if one thinks about it, attainment of Joy is the direct or indirect goal of all human activity. Where people go wrong, however, is by seeking happiness in external circumstances, instead of seeking the real Joy in the stillness of the soul.

This should not, however be construed to mean that it is all right to neglect worldly duties. In fact, an important message of Bhagavad Gita is that Man should conscientiously do his duty, without being unduly elated or depressed by success and failure. The conscientious performance of duties, in itself, becomes an act of worship which helps the seeker to attain a state of tranquillity. (This is called Karma Yoga, or the Yoga of Action.)

So, "What is God" is a big question, and the attempted response given here is necessarily incomplete. To go further down this road, one will have to learn and apply the science of spirituality, and verify for oneself the truthfulness of the claims made. As mentioned before, Raja Yoga is the most scientific and effective approach, but there are other paths suited to people of varied needs and inclinations.

I Will conclude with a poem by Kabir (1398—1518), a great saint of Benaras in India, an orphan who was brought up by a Muslim weaver family, and was a disciple of a Hindu sage Swami Ramananda. It nicely expresses one of the ideas I have been trying to put forward here - the Vedic "Aham Brahmasmi", or the Biblical "I and my Father are one":

THE river and its waves are one surf: where is the difference between the river and its waves?

When the wave rises, it is the water; and when it falls, it is the same water again. Tell me, Sir, where is the distinction?

Because it has been named as wave, shall it no longer be considered as water?


Within the Supreme Brahma, the worlds are being told like beads:
Look upon that rosary with the eyes of wisdom.


~Kabir (Translated by Rabindranath Tagore)
 
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For every jogi/rishi, there is a sufi mystic, a jewish kabbalist, a budhist monk, a born again christian, who claims some such spiritual connection with the Mosth High.

The concept of Fana Fillah and Baqa Billah among sufis is something worth studying, if you are interested in this type of spirituality.

You cited a number of different mystical doctrines.

Amongst these, Buddhism can basically be considered a part of Sanatana Dharma.

As regards Christianity, I would say that the Christianity of Jesus, the early Gnostic Church, and saints like St Francis of Assisi is very much at harmony with Sanatana Dharma. Some people say that the "missing years" of Jesus' life, between the ages 12 and 30, were spent in India. He is said to have visited Puri in Orissa, and spent time in the Himalayas. (See Jesus in India - The Movie )

But in any case, there are significant differences between modern day Catholicism and Sanatana Dharma. As regards "born again" Christians, from whatever I know they are a fundamentalist sect, and I don't think there is any overlap with Indic philosophies.

Re Jewish Kabbala, I will not comment, since I don't know much about it.

As far as the Sufis are concerned, I have read some things which seem to be at harmony with Indic philosophies. But I imagine that claims regarding the prophethood of Muhammad would become a point of difference.

IMO, the science of Yoga is what distinguishes the Indic philosophies from the others. Buddhism, being born in India, inherited Yoga from Sanatana Dharma. Indeed, some of the most accomplished Tantric Yogis were Tibetan Buddhists. There are some indications that Yoga was understood by the Apostles of Jesus, but this knowledge was definitely not widespread in Christianity.
 
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