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But the reality on ground is that resources of UP are not being distributed adequately. All the money goes to few particular regions.
And say if West UP does indeed do better, what is wrong? It will yield to a faster growth rate of West UP.
East UP on the other hand will learn to develop on its own. As it is it is ignored because the politicians dont focus there. Local politicians will rise from that area to cater for that area!
That is the best part. The administrative machinery per capita will increase dramatically with a bifurcation. This will undoubtedly lead to better services for the people. Currently the administrative machinery is minimum! Having new and more courts, officials, etc will improve services for the people in both west and east UP.
Jharkhand might not be growing like Bihar, it is still beating the overall national growth rates! So on that count - its still a positive for Jharkhand.
1. I have read of West Bengalis complaining about northern Indian (BIMARU) domination of the federation. The truth is India is dominated by BIMARU (An acronym for people from the "Hindi-belt" e.g. BIhar Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and Uttar Pradesh) and southern Indians don't like them and nor do the Marathis.
Marathis are the toughest and most formidable of Indians so Bengalis and Tamils not liking Hindustanis/BIMARUs is one thing but the fiery and proud Marathis not liking them is another thing as people like Jaya Bachan found out.
2. Pro-BAL intellectuals like Tagore more than West Bengalis and some of the atheists amongst them would ulimately want a united Bengali state of both Hindus and Muslims and feel a great sense of affinity with fellow Bengalis.
Needless to say Jamatis who are another extreme would have nothing but hatred for Hindu West Bengalis.
Mainstream Bangladeshis are in the middle of these two extremes and would definitely feel some affinity with West Bengal Bengalis and Tripura Bengalis.
3. If India did break up I am sure most Bangladeshis would want a strong and prosperous West Bengal and one to act as a buffer between us and our true, historical enemy, "Hindustan" i.e. the Indo-Gangetic race (Ask @asad71) more about this.
Anyway I am speaking hypothetically in the real world India is a sovereign member of the united nations and speaking of its break up is irresponsible, wild speculation and reduces one's credibility, I ultimately want a positive and beneficial relationship with India.
Anyway speaking of our West Bengali "brothers" let's see some videos of our long lost separated blood "brothers".
I am sure Bangladesh started these killings first, India can never do such an act
1. Throughout history SA has been in constant motion either of uniting or falling apart into smaller ethnic states. Only under the Mughals was SA called a Salatant e Hindustan, a compact unit with constant efforts to unite all peoples, initially under the Mughal flag, and later under Aurangzeb, under the Islamic flag. Indian part of SA is now in a diverging mode and mood.
2. The top criterion for nationhood in SA is religion. India may proclaim itself a secular state at the top of its voice, but the fact is that it is a Hindu state. Through a long and patient process, which was initially violent, the Hindus have all but assimilated the Jains and Buddhists. Under the Constitution of India these two great religions are counted as Hindus. So are Sikhs, who however, have sworn to separate themselves.
3. In this analysis the position of the Muslims is interesting. Together SA Muslims constitute half the Ummah and have produced some of the most learned Islamic scholars. Since the 1857 Uprising, where the Muslims had hoped to reinstate their empire in old glory, the Muslims and the Hindus have clashed constantly in the intellectual arena, in language, in politics, culture, etc. Often these have led to violence and war. The Muslim's tendency to opt out of the Hindu Republic becomes more acute in view of a global resurgence of Islam.
4. As such the centrifugal movement in the Brahmonic oligarchy of India may end with SA looking as under - in a foreseeable future.
a. Kerala, with an ever increasing Muslim population, may like to separate pretty soon. And Lakhsamdwip, being Muslim majority, may join them.
b. Tamils never liked the High Cast / Northerners / Hindi speakers. They would rather form a Tamil entity with their people in Sri Lanka included.
c. The SL Muslims may seek autonomy eventually.
d. The middle states like Andhra (greater Hyderabad) and Karnataka (greater Mysore) never liked Northern domination. Given an opportunity they will opt out of ROI.
e. The Marathas, throughout history a cunning and deceitful people, have always nurtured hopes of ruling over Delhi. In fact they did this for a few years till the great Muslim General Ahmed Shah Baba crushed them into minions. Bal Thackeray has set the Maratha nation on a rising mode. Their objective is Delhi.
f. The most honorable and brave among the indigenous S Asians are the Rajputs. It is from them that the Muslims taken Delhi. In character, values and characteristics they are close to Muslims who had found them a good ally in SA. In the event of a general upheaval in SA the Rajputs and the Muslims may come together.
g. Delhi from inside is Sikh-Punjabi dominated. Punjabi is even one of the state languages. In the inevitable, yes it is inevitable, the Sikhs will come into a conflict with the Muslims for occupation of Delhi. In the next change-round all Muslims, even those outside SA, would hope that the green flag flutters from the ramparts of Lal Qilla.
h. J&K is a part of Pakistan. Full stop.
i. Muslim majority areas of P/bengal, Bihar, Assam and NE would naturally join with BD under terms to be evolved. Andaman - Nicobar, Tripura, Arakan and even Chin (Burma) and Mizoram would find it practical to join with BD.
j. The Low Cast of Bengal, old Bihar and old Orissa along with indigenous tribal population could form their own entity.
k. S Tibet / Arunachaol will revert to China. Other NE peoples will look for arrangements with BD or their kinsmen in Burma.
l. The Hindi-Hindu heartland consisting of parts of MP, UP and Bihar would be left to form a Brahmonic State.
5. I have said I see this happening in the foreseeable future for valid reasons.
a. The US pressures on India to irritate China could result in reprisals that the fragile unity of India could not take. The US pressure has recently taken new form in an Indo-Burmese crack-down on the Kachins using Swedish AGMs supplied to Burma by India. India has launched simultaneous covert cross border raids into Burma. If these movers over-tax China's patience then China may be drawn into a proxy war against US-India - Burma in Kachin State.
b. A great force is being molded out of fire and steel west of the Hindukush. It is a matter of time before the Afghans decide to descend down the Hindukush onto the SA plains for their seasonal raids.
1. Throughout history SA has been in constant motion either of uniting or falling apart into smaller ethnic states. Only under the Mughals was SA called a Salatant e Hindustan, a compact unit with constant efforts to unite all peoples, initially under the Mughal flag, and later under Aurangzeb, under the Islamic flag. Indian part of SA is now in a diverging mode and mood.
2. The top criterion for nationhood in SA is religion. India may proclaim itself a secular state at the top of its voice, but the fact is that it is a Hindu state. Through a long and patient process, which was initially violent, the Hindus have all but assimilated the Jains and Buddhists. Under the Constitution of India these two great religions are counted as Hindus. So are Sikhs, who however, have sworn to separate themselves.
3. In this analysis the position of the Muslims is interesting. Together SA Muslims constitute half the Ummah and have produced some of the most learned Islamic scholars. Since the 1857 Uprising, where the Muslims had hoped to reinstate their empire in old glory, the Muslims and the Hindus have clashed constantly in the intellectual arena, in language, in politics, culture, etc. Often these have led to violence and war. The Muslim's tendency to opt out of the Hindu Republic becomes more acute in view of a global resurgence of Islam.
4. As such the centrifugal movement in the Brahmonic oligarchy of India may end with SA looking as under - in a foreseeable future.
a. Kerala, with an ever increasing Muslim population, may like to separate pretty soon. And Lakhsamdwip, being Muslim majority, may join them.
b. Tamils never liked the High Cast / Northerners / Hindi speakers. They would rather form a Tamil entity with their people in Sri Lanka included.
c. The SL Muslims may seek autonomy eventually.
d. The middle states like Andhra (greater Hyderabad) and Karnataka (greater Mysore) never liked Northern domination. Given an opportunity they will opt out of ROI.
e. The Marathas, throughout history a cunning and deceitful people, have always nurtured hopes of ruling over Delhi. In fact they did this for a few years till the great Muslim General Ahmed Shah Baba crushed them into minions. Bal Thackeray has set the Maratha nation on a rising mode. Their objective is Delhi.
f. The most honorable and brave among the indigenous S Asians are the Rajputs. It is from them that the Muslims taken Delhi. In character, values and characteristics they are close to Muslims who had found them a good ally in SA. In the event of a general upheaval in SA the Rajputs and the Muslims may come together.
g. Delhi from inside is Sikh-Punjabi dominated. Punjabi is even one of the state languages. In the inevitable, yes it is inevitable, the Sikhs will come into a conflict with the Muslims for occupation of Delhi. In the next change-round all Muslims, even those outside SA, would hope that the green flag flutters from the ramparts of Lal Qilla.
h. J&K is a part of Pakistan. Full stop.
i. Muslim majority areas of P/bengal, Bihar, Assam and NE would naturally join with BD under terms to be evolved. Andaman - Nicobar, Tripura, Arakan and even Chin (Burma) and Mizoram would find it practical to join with BD.
j. The Low Cast of Bengal, old Bihar and old Orissa along with indigenous tribal population could form their own entity.
k. S Tibet / Arunachaol will revert to China. Other NE peoples will look for arrangements with BD or their kinsmen in Burma.
l. The Hindi-Hindu heartland consisting of parts of MP, UP and Bihar would be left to form a Brahmonic State.
5. I have said I see this happening in the foreseeable future for valid reasons.
a. The US pressures on India to irritate China could result in reprisals that the fragile unity of India could not take. The US pressure has recently taken new form in an Indo-Burmese crack-down on the Kachins using Swedish AGMs supplied to Burma by India. India has launched simultaneous covert cross border raids into Burma. If these movers over-tax China's patience then China may be drawn into a proxy war against US-India - Burma in Kachin State.
b. A great force is being molded out of fire and steel west of the Hindukush. It is a matter of time before the Afghans decide to descend down the Hindukush onto the SA plains for their seasonal raids.
1. Throughout history SA has been in constant motion either of uniting or falling apart into smaller ethnic states. Only under the Mughals was SA called a Salatant e Hindustan, a compact unit with constant efforts to unite all peoples, initially under the Mughal flag, and later under Aurangzeb, under the Islamic flag. Indian part of SA is now in a diverging mode and mood.
2. The top criterion for nationhood in SA is religion. India may proclaim itself a secular state at the top of its voice, but the fact is that it is a Hindu state. Through a long and patient process, which was initially violent, the Hindus have all but assimilated the Jains and Buddhists. Under the Constitution of India these two great religions are counted as Hindus. So are Sikhs, who however, have sworn to separate themselves.
3. In this analysis the position of the Muslims is interesting. Together SA Muslims constitute half the Ummah and have produced some of the most learned Islamic scholars. Since the 1857 Uprising, where the Muslims had hoped to reinstate their empire in old glory, the Muslims and the Hindus have clashed constantly in the intellectual arena, in language, in politics, culture, etc. Often these have led to violence and war. The Muslim's tendency to opt out of the Hindu Republic becomes more acute in view of a global resurgence of Islam.
4. As such the centrifugal movement in the Brahmonic oligarchy of India may end with SA looking as under - in a foreseeable future.
a. Kerala, with an ever increasing Muslim population, may like to separate pretty soon. And Lakhsamdwip, being Muslim majority, may join them.
b. Tamils never liked the High Cast / Northerners / Hindi speakers. They would rather form a Tamil entity with their people in Sri Lanka included.
c. The SL Muslims may seek autonomy eventually.
d. The middle states like Andhra (greater Hyderabad) and Karnataka (greater Mysore) never liked Northern domination. Given an opportunity they will opt out of ROI.
e. The Marathas, throughout history a cunning and deceitful people, have always nurtured hopes of ruling over Delhi. In fact they did this for a few years till the great Muslim General Ahmed Shah Baba crushed them into minions. Bal Thackeray has set the Maratha nation on a rising mode. Their objective is Delhi.
f. The most honorable and brave among the indigenous S Asians are the Rajputs. It is from them that the Muslims taken Delhi. In character, values and characteristics they are close to Muslims who had found them a good ally in SA. In the event of a general upheaval in SA the Rajputs and the Muslims may come together.
g. Delhi from inside is Sikh-Punjabi dominated. Punjabi is even one of the state languages. In the inevitable, yes it is inevitable, the Sikhs will come into a conflict with the Muslims for occupation of Delhi. In the next change-round all Muslims, even those outside SA, would hope that the green flag flutters from the ramparts of Lal Qilla.
h. J&K is a part of Pakistan. Full stop.
i. Muslim majority areas of P/bengal, Bihar, Assam and NE would naturally join with BD under terms to be evolved. Andaman - Nicobar, Tripura, Arakan and even Chin (Burma) and Mizoram would find it practical to join with BD.
j. The Low Cast of Bengal, old Bihar and old Orissa along with indigenous tribal population could form their own entity.
k. S Tibet / Arunachaol will revert to China. Other NE peoples will look for arrangements with BD or their kinsmen in Burma.
l. The Hindi-Hindu heartland consisting of parts of MP, UP and Bihar would be left to form a Brahmonic State.
5. I have said I see this happening in the foreseeable future for valid reasons.
a. The US pressures on India to irritate China could result in reprisals that the fragile unity of India could not take. The US pressure has recently taken new form in an Indo-Burmese crack-down on the Kachins using Swedish AGMs supplied to Burma by India. India has launched simultaneous covert cross border raids into Burma. If these movers over-tax China's patience then China may be drawn into a proxy war against US-India - Burma in Kachin State.
b. A great force is being molded out of fire and steel west of the Hindukush. It is a matter of time before the Afghans decide to descend down the Hindukush onto the SA plains for their seasonal raids.
What you smoking, bro? can i have some of it?
1. Throughout history SA has been in constant motion either of uniting or falling apart into smaller ethnic states. Only under the Mughals was SA called a Salatant e Hindustan, a compact unit with constant efforts to unite all peoples, initially under the Mughal flag, and later under Aurangzeb, under the Islamic flag. Indian part of SA is now in a diverging mode and mood.
2. The top criterion for nationhood in SA is religion. India may proclaim itself a secular state at the top of its voice, but the fact is that it is a Hindu state. Through a long and patient process, which was initially violent, the Hindus have all but assimilated the Jains and Buddhists. Under the Constitution of India these two great religions are counted as Hindus. So are Sikhs, who however, have sworn to separate themselves.
ye pooped a few BSF heads a decade ago. They are showing their manliness now by killing the unarmed. If we start again, there won't be any any BSF anymore. Why are they trying to provoke us?
What you smoking, bro? can i have some of it?
India could never sustain a map for more than 100 years throughout its history. So, Asad Bhai's post is a well thought articulation of several of many possibilities.
India could never sustain a map for more than 100 years throughout its history. So, Asad Bhai's post is a well thought articulation of several of many possibilities.
1. Throughout history SA has been in constant motion either of uniting or falling apart into smaller ethnic states. Only under the Mughals was SA called a Salatant e Hindustan, a compact unit with constant efforts to unite all peoples, initially under the Mughal flag, and later under Aurangzeb, under the Islamic flag. Indian part of SA is now in a diverging mode and mood.
2. The top criterion for nationhood in SA is religion. India may proclaim itself a secular state at the top of its voice, but the fact is that it is a Hindu state. Through a long and patient process, which was initially violent, the Hindus have all but assimilated the Jains and Buddhists. Under the Constitution of India these two great religions are counted as Hindus. So are Sikhs, who however, have sworn to separate themselves.
3. In this analysis the position of the Muslims is interesting. Together SA Muslims constitute half the Ummah and have produced some of the most learned Islamic scholars. Since the 1857 Uprising, where the Muslims had hoped to reinstate their empire in old glory, the Muslims and the Hindus have clashed constantly in the intellectual arena, in language, in politics, culture, etc. Often these have led to violence and war. The Muslim's tendency to opt out of the Hindu Republic becomes more acute in view of a global resurgence of Islam.
4. As such the centrifugal movement in the Brahmonic oligarchy of India may end with SA looking as under - in a foreseeable future.
a. Kerala, with an ever increasing Muslim population, may like to separate pretty soon. And Lakhsamdwip, being Muslim majority, may join them.
b. Tamils never liked the High Cast / Northerners / Hindi speakers. They would rather form a Tamil entity with their people in Sri Lanka included.
c. The SL Muslims may seek autonomy eventually.
d. The middle states like Andhra (greater Hyderabad) and Karnataka (greater Mysore) never liked Northern domination. Given an opportunity they will opt out of ROI.
e. The Marathas, throughout history a cunning and deceitful people, have always nurtured hopes of ruling over Delhi. In fact they did this for a few years till the great Muslim General Ahmed Shah Baba crushed them into minions. Bal Thackeray has set the Maratha nation on a rising mode. Their objective is Delhi.
f. The most honorable and brave among the indigenous S Asians are the Rajputs. It is from them that the Muslims taken Delhi. In character, values and characteristics they are close to Muslims who had found them a good ally in SA. In the event of a general upheaval in SA the Rajputs and the Muslims may come together.
g. Delhi from inside is Sikh-Punjabi dominated. Punjabi is even one of the state languages. In the inevitable, yes it is inevitable, the Sikhs will come into a conflict with the Muslims for occupation of Delhi. In the next change-round all Muslims, even those outside SA, would hope that the green flag flutters from the ramparts of Lal Qilla.
h. J&K is a part of Pakistan. Full stop.
i. Muslim majority areas of P/bengal, Bihar, Assam and NE would naturally join with BD under terms to be evolved. Andaman - Nicobar, Tripura, Arakan and even Chin (Burma) and Mizoram would find it practical to join with BD.
j. The Low Cast of Bengal, old Bihar and old Orissa along with indigenous tribal population could form their own entity.
k. S Tibet / Arunachaol will revert to China. Other NE peoples will look for arrangements with BD or their kinsmen in Burma.
l. The Hindi-Hindu heartland consisting of parts of MP, UP and Bihar would be left to form a Brahmonic State.
5. I have said I see this happening in the foreseeable future for valid reasons.
a. The US pressures on India to irritate China could result in reprisals that the fragile unity of India could not take. The US pressure has recently taken new form in an Indo-Burmese crack-down on the Kachins using Swedish AGMs supplied to Burma by India. India has launched simultaneous covert cross border raids into Burma. If these movers over-tax China's patience then China may be drawn into a proxy war against US-India - Burma in Kachin State.
b. A great force is being molded out of fire and steel west of the Hindukush. It is a matter of time before the Afghans decide to descend down the Hindukush onto the SA plains for their seasonal raids.