Malaysian leader Mahathir Mohamad warns against revising Japan’s pacifist Constitution

[TaiShang]

The US and China are competitors but not enemies.

*Rebalance to Asia (further militarization of East Asia to contain China)
*TPP (weaponizing an otherwise innocent trade bloc to contain China)
*Regular intervention in China's domestic affairs
*Trying to build up coalitions against China and creating fake regions such as Indo-Pacific
*Launching an economic war on a developing country's industrial projects
*Threatening at the UNSC by saying "we have noted down their names" (in regards to Syria)
*Infringing China's territorial waters

These do not seem like competition to me. This is indirect confrontation. What keeps the US at bay so far from launching a direct aggression on China is the fact that China can hit back as strong.

China gives trade deficit with Japan, Korea, Taiwan region, and has a balanced trade with ASEAN.

So, the question is not having trade surplus with the US. Because, even China works hard to buy their junk automobiles and contaminated meat in droves, the US trade deficit will continue.

Besides, China is more entitled to have trade deficit with the US than Japan is.

 

[Mista]

*Rebalance to Asia (further militarization of East Asia to contain China)
*TPP (weaponizing an otherwise innocent trade bloc to contain China)
*Regular intervention in China's domestic affairs
*Trying to build up coalitions against China and creating fake regions such as Indo-Pacific
*Launching an economic war on a developing country's industrial projects
*Threatening at the UNSC by saying "we have noted down their names" (in regards to Syria)
*Infringing China's territorial waters

These do not seem like competition to me. This is indirect confrontation. What keeps the US at bay so far from launching a direct aggression on China is the fact that China can hit back as strong.

China gives trade deficit with Japan, Korea, Taiwan region, and has a balanced trade with ASEAN.

So, the question is not having trade surplus with the US. Because, even China works hard to buy their junk automobiles and contaminated meat in droves, the US trade deficit will continue.

Besides, China is more entitled to have trade deficit with the US than Japan is.

Well, Wang Yi himself said so that China and US are competitors who need each other but not enemies. You disagree?

These are posturings which has little impact on the real tangible average Chinese lives. Would the Chinese people be better off if US didn't exist?

 

[TaiShang]

Well, Wang Yi himself said so that China and US are competitors who need each other but not enemies. You disagree? Would China be better off if US didn't exist?

Wang Yi is a statesman and he will be repeating the official line. China does never use the extreme rhetoric and unconventional methods in diplomacy -- unlike the US.

So, China's official diplomatic stance will always be in this line even under extreme conditions. Usually, China speaks softly till the last minute and then hits equally hardly.

What I care is what is going on on the ground. This is the job of China's countless strategists that work behind the curtain. They see the thinks much more clearly and in-depth than I can. And, all they see is an extremely hostile and irrational major power trying to hit China from every aspect: military to soft power.

Perhaps only Russia receives a harsher response from the US now.

That's open enmity.

One can be hostile to a small or even medium power (like Turkey or Venezuela), but, being so openly hostile to a major power does not bode well.

And, everything I see in what China does (much more than what it says diplomatically) points out that China takes the US as an hostile rival, not a benign competitor.

But, of course, a direct confrontation is unlikely. The US may, at the most extreme, use one or few of its regional minions like Japan.

 

[Mista]

Wang Yi is a statesman and he will be repeating the official line. China does never use the extreme rhetoric and unconventional methods in diplomacy -- unlike the US.

So, China's official diplomatic stance will always be in this line even under extreme conditions. Usually, China speaks softly till the last minute and then hits equally hardly.

What I care is what is going on on the ground. This is the job of China's countless strategists that work behind the curtain. They see the thinks much more clearly and in-depth than I can. And, all they see is an extremely hostile and irrational major power trying to hit China from every aspect: military to soft power.

Perhaps only Russia receives a harsher response from the US now.

That's open enmity.

One can be hostile to a small or even medium power (like Turkey or Venezuela), but, being so openly hostile to a major power does not bode well.

And, everything I see in what China does (much more than what it says diplomatically) points out that China takes the US as an hostile rival, not a benign competitor.

But, of course, a direct confrontation is unlikely. The US may, at the most extreme, use one or few of its regional minions like Japan.

So do you think the Chinese people would be better off if the US didn't exist?

 

[Suika]

*Rebalance to Asia (further militarization of East Asia to contain China)
*TPP (weaponizing an otherwise innocent trade bloc to contain China)
*Regular intervention in China's domestic affairs
*Trying to build up coalitions against China and creating fake regions such as Indo-Pacific
*Launching an economic war on a developing country's industrial projects
*Threatening at the UNSC by saying "we have noted down their names" (in regards to Syria)
*Infringing China's territorial waters

These do not seem like competition to me. This is indirect confrontation. What keeps the US at bay so far from launching a direct aggression on China is the fact that China can hit back as strong.

China gives trade deficit with Japan, Korea, Taiwan region, and has a balanced trade with ASEAN.

So, the question is not having trade surplus with the US. Because, even China works hard to buy their junk automobiles and contaminated meat in droves, the US trade deficit will continue.

Besides, China is more entitled to have trade deficit with the US than Japan is.

China is of course welcome to join TPP although state governments are not allowed much participation as far as I know. When a company operates while under control of the state, then the state can use companies for geopolitic purposes rather than just business and the livelihood of the company employees that compete with other companies. China would have to liberalize many companies since they have many state backed companies.

Deficits come in size. There's a lot more to it than simply having a trade deficit and not having a trade deficit. Japan's is about 65 billion USD. China's is over 500 billion USD. The two are not even comparable so by speaking in limited terms of just "deficit" is misleading and uninformative.

 

[Yingluck]

So do you think the Chinese people would be better off if the US didn't exist?

USA has outlast her utility in this planet.

 

[Suika]

Wang Yi is a statesman and he will be repeating the official line. China does never use the extreme rhetoric and unconventional methods in diplomacy -- unlike the US.

So, China's official diplomatic stance will always be in this line even under extreme conditions. Usually, China speaks softly till the last minute and then hits equally hardly.

What I care is what is going on on the ground. This is the job of China's countless strategists that work behind the curtain. They see the thinks much more clearly and in-depth than I can. And, all they see is an extremely hostile and irrational major power trying to hit China from every aspect: military to soft power.

Perhaps only Russia receives a harsher response from the US now.

That's open enmity.

One can be hostile to a small or even medium power (like Turkey or Venezuela), but, being so openly hostile to a major power does not bode well.

And, everything I see in what China does (much more than what it says diplomatically) points out that China takes the US as an hostile rival, not a benign competitor.

But, of course, a direct confrontation is unlikely. The US may, at the most extreme, use one or few of its regional minions like Japan.

At the end of your post, by calling Japan a minion would imply that if Japan was not under the imagined control by the US, then Japan would not confront China in the South China Sea or East China Sea. And that Japan would not be creating new defense relations with ASEAN countries. And that Japan would not be concerned about China's backing of DPRK, a country that has kidnapped many Japanese civilians. No, Japan would still confront China on all these fronts so long as it has the strength. What you quietly advocate is creating the circumstances that would undermine Japan's strength so that Japan could be forced into a kow-tow posture. Well, other countries also confront China when and where necessary. So Japan will go in unison with them. Orders from the US not necessary for Japan to act in its own interests even if such interests confront China. If China does not want to face confrontation with Japan, then China has to stop intruding Japanese territorial waters, cooperate and share the South China Sea with countries like Vietnam and the Philippines by dropping the 9 dash line which would also release claim of international waters in which trade including oil goes to Japan. And stop threatening Taiwan with war and let Taiwan go its own path. Just as China was invaded by foreigners, so to was Taiwan, China being one of those foreign invaders.

 

[haidian]

And stop threatening Taiwan with war and let Taiwan go its own path. Just as China was invaded by foreigners, so to was Taiwan, China being one of those foreign invaders.

Why every country in this world admits that Taiwan is part of China including Japan?

 

[Suika]

Why every country in this world admits that Taiwan is part of China including Japan?

Because Chiang Kai-chek called his China the one and only China rather than declaring Taiwan what it should have been after WW2, just Taiwan.

 

[haidian]

Because Chiang Kai-chek called his China the one and only China rather than declaring Taiwan what it should have been after WW2, just Taiwan.

So it is what it is now, Taiwan is part of China. global consensus, in China many people believe that Ryukyu Islands are also part of China, but it's not the official stance, like you claim Taiwan is a country, but it is not Japanese official stance.

 

[Yingluck]

Because Chiang Kai-chek called his China the one and only China rather than declaring Taiwan what it should have been after WW2, just Taiwan.

Japanese never repent the disaster she gave to China. Japanese acts like victim and make wild accusation against China, when China is trying to recover from the damage done by Japanese.

 

[Suika]

So it is what it is now, Taiwan is part of China. global consensus, in China many people believe that Ryukyu Islands are also part of China, but it's not the official stance, like you claim Taiwan is a country, but it is not Japanese official stance.

Global consensus is that Taiwan is de facto an independent country with its own elections. They just don't want to "hurt the feelings of the Chinese people" for the sake of business.

If what you say about Ryukyu islands and Chinese beliefs, just another example of Chinese aggressive thinking.

 

[Yingluck]

Global consensus is that Taiwan is de facto an independent country with its own elections. They just don't want to "hurt the feelings of the Chinese people" for the sake of business.

If what you say about Ryukyu islands and Chinese beliefs, just another example of Chinese aggressive thinking.

Ryukyu never like Japan.

But China did nothing to the extend Japan is doing on Taiwan.

No one is more ungrateful than Japanese.

 

[Suika]

Japanese never repent the disaster she gave to China. Japanese acts like victim and make wild accusation against China, when China is trying to recover from the damage done by Japanese.

Chinese Communists Party killed, purged, and brainwashed all Chinese thst fought against Japan. Their governance did not take over until after WW2. But Japan still has issued many statements of apologies and providing aid money and investments to China in good faith. CCP isn't a good partner except for those desparate to find a partner.

Ryukyu never like Japan.

But China did nothing to the extend Japan is doing on Taiwan.

No one is more ungrateful than Japanese.

Okinawa has elections and political polls and the freedom to demonstrate. Yet the dislike never reaches so high as you claim and want to have believed.

Your second sentence is nonsensible.

On the third, if you say so I guess..

 

[Yingluck]

Chinese Communists Party killed, purged, and brainwashed all Chinese thst fought against Japan. Their governance did not take over until after WW2. But Japan still has issued many statements of apologies and providing aid money and investments to China in good faith. CCP doesn't isn't a goid partner except for those desparate to find a partner.

Mao and first generation leaders need to use extreme measures to root out dissent. China was surrounded by enemies.

She also fought against USA.

The CCP during the time of Mao was constantly in war.