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Malaysia MH17 and Iran Air 655: A medal for terrorism

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Emergencies Ministry members walk at the site of a Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane crash near the settlement of Grabovo in the Donetsk region, July 17, 2014.

By Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich

Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border. MH17 had 295 people on board — 280 passengers and 15 crew members. Western media has gone into overdrive mode in reporting that the plane was deliberately shot down.

Salivating over the story, self-acclaimed pundits are putting the blame on anti-coup Ukrainians and even pointing the finger at Russia even as the crash has not been investigated yet.

So-called experts, among them Richard Quest dubbed as an aviation expert, is hard at work convincing CNN viewers that it would be “extremely unusual” for an airliner at 32,000 feet to be shot down. From the ground, one could simply look up and tell whether a plane was a commercial aircraft.

“It looks like a commercial aircraft, it squawks a commercial aircraft. So something is absolutely appalling that’s gone on here,”.

A Ukrainian official, Anton Gerashchenko even knew what kind of missile had brought down the plane. He “wrote on his Facebook page that a Buk missile system was used to shoot down the plane, not an on-the-shoulder missile launcher, and it’s unlikely pro-Russian rebels have access to that type of sophisticated weaponry. “ He accused Putin of sponsoring terrorism.

Whatever (or whomever) was behind the crash, investigations have just started. But as far as the court of public opinion is concerned, CNN, Fox , et al, this is a deliberate act of terrorism, pointing to “Pro-Russian Separatists.” Well, it would have to be if a passenger plane is so readily recognizable – even from the ground, and missiles fired at it, right?

Well, that depends.

On July 3, 1988, in an unprovoked move, US carrier USS Vincennes fired two missiles at an Iranian passenger plane, Iran Air flight 655 that was on route to Dubai.

All 290 innocent civilians perished. The passenger airliner, so recognizable even from the ground was “mistaken” for a jet fighter (jetfighter is two-thirds smaller than a passenger plane). The United States called its own act of terrorism “a regrettable accident”.

In short, the Malaysian airliner is easily recognizable from the ground, according to reports, but the Iran Air plane was ‘mistaken’ for a much smaller jetfighter.

Listening to the media news surrounding the MH 17 incident, one cannot help but conclude that the USS Vincennes captain, Will Rogers III was too dumb and blind not to see the easily recognizable passenger plane, or else, he was/is a terrorist.

In spite of this stark reality, in 1990, President Bush Sr. awarded Capt. Rogers the Legion of Merit decoration “for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding service as commanding officer … from April 1987 to May 1989.”

PressTV - Malaysia MH17 and Iran Air 655: A medal for terrorism
 
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Malaysia MH17 and Iran Air 655: A medal for terrorism

371802_Malsyian-flght.jpg

Emergencies Ministry members walk at the site of a Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 plane crash near the settlement of Grabovo in the Donetsk region, July 17, 2014.

By Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich

Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border. MH17 had 295 people on board — 280 passengers and 15 crew members. Western media has gone into overdrive mode in reporting that the plane was deliberately shot down.

Salivating over the story, self-acclaimed pundits are putting the blame on anti-coup Ukrainians and even pointing the finger at Russia even as the crash has not been investigated yet.

So-called experts, among them Richard Quest dubbed as an aviation expert, is hard at work convincing CNN viewers that it would be “extremely unusual” for an airliner at 32,000 feet to be shot down. From the ground, one could simply look up and tell whether a plane was a commercial aircraft.

“It looks like a commercial aircraft, it squawks a commercial aircraft. So something is absolutely appalling that’s gone on here,”.

A Ukrainian official, Anton Gerashchenko even knew what kind of missile had brought down the plane. He “wrote on his Facebook page that a Buk missile system was used to shoot down the plane, not an on-the-shoulder missile launcher, and it’s unlikely pro-Russian rebels have access to that type of sophisticated weaponry. “ He accused Putin of sponsoring terrorism.

Whatever (or whomever) was behind the crash, investigations have just started. But as far as the court of public opinion is concerned, CNN, Fox , et al, this is a deliberate act of terrorism, pointing to “Pro-Russian Separatists.” Well, it would have to be if a passenger plane is so readily recognizable – even from the ground, and missiles fired at it, right?

Well, that depends.

On July 3, 1988, in an unprovoked move, US carrier USS Vincennes fired two missiles at an Iranian passenger plane, Iran Air flight 655 that was on route to Dubai.

All 290 innocent civilians perished. The passenger airliner, so recognizable even from the ground was “mistaken” for a jet fighter (jetfighter is two-thirds smaller than a passenger plane). The United States called its own act of terrorism “a regrettable accident”.

In short, the Malaysian airliner is easily recognizable from the ground, according to reports, but the Iran Air plane was ‘mistaken’ for a much smaller jetfighter.

Listening to the media news surrounding the MH 17 incident, one cannot help but conclude that the USS Vincennes captain, Will Rogers III was too dumb and blind not to see the easily recognizable passenger plane, or else, he was/is a terrorist.

In spite of this stark reality, in 1990, President Bush Sr. awarded Capt. Rogers the Legion of Merit decoration “for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding service as commanding officer … from April 1987 to May 1989.”

PressTV - Malaysia MH17 and Iran Air 655: A medal for terrorism

PressTV - the home of lies.

Once i'm done taking care (nearly done now) with the aftermath for the MH17 flight, I'll return here to take on both presstv and hasbara buster like before, but with a vengeance. I now stay away from "muslim victims threads" on this forum, and THIS is how you respond? Payback is due, and will be administred soon enough. In massive quantities, and with no more kind or diplomatic interludes.

Russia, the Ukranian seperatists, and now the Iranian lies-machine presstv have put forth so many crazy theories as to what really happened with MH17, you make yourself into worse fools than those interbreeding results of donkeys and horses.

Fact is that the Russians supplied the kind of anti-aircraft missiles to THEIR seperatists in Ukraine that are ABLE to shoot down a commercial airliner at it's cruising altitude. This horrible machinery requires specialist training to operate. Russia's involvement and responsibility is hard to deny indeed.
 
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So much lies from American state propaganda and lying machines at CNN, BBC and all the others.

Meanwhile everyone who reports about Israeli attrocities and feels disgusted about scum cheering at deaths of civilian or so called "terrorists until proven wrong by impartial sources" is quickly silenced and has their reports on the truth removed and pushed out of the sight.

Free American press. More like Free American piss.
 
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PressTV - the home of lies.

Once i'm done taking care (nearly done now) with the aftermath for the MH17 flight, I'll return here to take on both presstv and hasbara buster like before, but with a vengeance. I now stay away from "muslim victims threads" on this forum, and THIS is how you respond? Payback is due, and will be administred soon enough. In massive quantities, and with no more kind or diplomatic interludes.

Russia, the Ukranian seperatists, and now the Iranian lies-machine presstv have put forth so many crazy theories as to what really happened with MH17, you make yourself into worse fools than those interbreeding results of donkeys and horses.

Fact is that the Russians supplied the kind of anti-aircraft missiles to THEIR seperatists in Ukraine that are ABLE to shoot down a commercial airliner at it's cruising altitude. This horrible machinery requires specialist training to operate. Russia's involvement and responsibility is hard to deny indeed.

Fact: If those ones who have shot down MH17 are terrorists, then you should also accept that those who shot down Iran's air flight 655 are terrorists. If not, then hypocrisy is involved.
 
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Fact: If those ones who have shot down MH17 are terrorists, then you should also accept that those who shot down Iran's air flight 655 are terrorists. If not, then hypocrisy is involved.

Neither are terrorists, the difference being that this was an international flight that had a huge journey to make and was at high altitude with people of nationalities not part of the conflict. Flight 655 was a short journey at low altitude with people on board being "locals" so to speak, MH17 is more of an international crisis than flight 655 which was more of a domestic crisis. Not downplaying either accident but with the countries involved and the people of various different nationalities aswell as the "mystery" over who done it this causes more of a mediastorm.
 
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Neither are terrorists, the difference being that this was an international flight that had a huge journey to make and was at high altitude with people of nationalities not part of the conflict. Flight 655 was a short journey at low altitude with people on board being "locals" so to speak, MH17 is more of an international crisis than flight 655 which was more of a domestic crisis. Not downplaying either accident but with the countries involved and the people of various different nationalities aswell as the "mystery" over who done it this causes more of a mediastorm.

I agree that the recent one involves more nationalities, but both were civilian airliners and shooting down such flight is a barbaric act no matter what. Ironically, Russia,U.S and Ukraine itself have a history of shooting down civilian airliners in the past.
 
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Fact: If those ones who have shot down MH17 are terrorists, then you should also accept that those who shot down Iran's air flight 655 are terrorists. If not, then hypocrisy is involved.
Oh, i should accept some historic account of an Iran Air flight, and the lies by presstv about MH17 at the same time then?!

I wont. And that's not hypocrisy at all. It's "not accepting nonsense by presstv". As is often needed with their "articles".
 
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Neither are terrorists, the difference being that this was an international flight that had a huge journey to make and was at high altitude with people of nationalities not part of the conflict. Flight 655 was a short journey at low altitude with people on board being "locals" so to speak, MH17 is more of an international crisis than flight 655 which was more of a domestic crisis. Not downplaying either accident but with the countries involved and the people of various different nationalities aswell as the "mystery" over who done it this causes more of a mediastorm.
13 person from UAE ,10 from India , 6 from Pakistan ,6 from Yugoslavia and 1 from Italy made it local.

killing 66 child made it less Important
by the way the low altitude that Iran Airplane had made it a lot easier to Identify even by naked eye after all at the time of shot down it had only 7000 feet of altitude .
 
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