Malala Yousufzai bashed for 'Oxford Attire' and it's quite appalling.

[lastofthepatriots]

The list is long but adding another name as Aitazaz Shaheed that sacrificed his life to save many by holding onto suicide attacker. Salute to the sons of soil.

And what about Mashal Khan? He was literally mobbed to death by the liberal ANP's student wing but they exacted their murder upon him using the guise of religion. This is what these sick liberals do. They commit crimes but always try to use the religious segment of our society as scapegoats. Too many hypocrites in Pakistani society are getting away with murder, literally. Instead of actually looking at the problem, our confused desi liberals just like to yell mullah and pat each other on the back like they've accomplished something.

 

[MultaniGuy]

And what about Mashal Khan? He was literally mobbed to death by the liberal ANP's student wing but they exacted their murder upon him using the guise of religion. This is what these sick liberals do. They commit crimes but always try to use the religious segment of our society as scapegoats. Too many hypocrites in Pakistani society are getting away with murder, literally. Instead of actually looking at the problem, our confused desi liberals just like to yell mullah and pat each other on the back like they've accomplished something.

Indeed the liberal brigade is a cancer that needs to be dealt with in Pakistan.

 

[Secur]

Malala has been away from Pakistan for a long time. She's not been back to her hometown nor has she wished to visit to tell the world how things are there now (in regards to safety post operation, new schools for girls etc etc). Why has she not done so? Her parents and her influencers do not want that, and this is why she's not returned. Heck, it would be a very good publicity for the state to give her security to visit her hometown so that she can tell the world what all has improved, but has she ever requested to do so? No!

No, very genuine security reasons. I believe that I have already explained those, in my previous posts. She shouldn't return until a conducive time which isn't now, far too many haters plus extremists willing to end, what they started. If anyone should have made such offer, it should have been the state of Pakistan, not the little girl. In the absence of any such thing, why is she at fault for not visiting her hometown now, even if temporarily. Why is she required to do everything, by her own? Come on, you are grasping at straws now.

Children can be groomed to dislike something or love something, very easy if one knows the right techniques. If parents dislike something or someone, and the discussion has been happening in the household for some time, the children will start to show the same reaction towards that something/someone.

True, but there's more to the story. You are correct in saying that for a child, the parents are the whole world. The way in which they approach things, likes or dislikes, difference or indifference, interest or disinterest, biases/prejudices e.t.c, all affect a child astronomically with long lasting effects. But that does change fast, once a child starts growing. They see the world besides their parents, not everything they experienced or learned in their childhood will remain relevant to them, afterwards. The human brain can think for itself.

 

[The Eagle]

And what about Mashal Khan? He was literally mobbed to death by the liberal ANP's student wing but they exacted their murder upon him using the guise of religion. This is what these sick liberals do. They commit crimes but always try to use the religious segment of our society as scapegoats. Too many hypocrites in Pakistani society are getting away with murder, literally. Instead of actually looking at the problem, our confused desi liberals just like to yell mullah and pat each other on the back like they've accomplished something.

Indeed the liberal brigade is a cancer that needs to be dealt with in Pakistan.

Actually, a specific set or group of people disguised under liberal skin, is tend and paid to do exactly what many of us are talking about. Even, for the sack of argument here, intellectual liberals are silenced seeing what is happening and getting beyond control. The so-called candle mafia, brigade like Asma Jahangir etc have actually brought more bad to those educated liberal lot than any adversary at all. In my opinion, the meaning and reality of liberals is not what is being practiced here. It is more of deceit and lie to divert attention from real issues. A liberal or any sane person, never provoke others that will ultimately cause unrest in society and will bring harm. Mostly such people uses the so-called freedom of speech card to provoke others then shout the slogan of liberalism while being the reason of chaos at home. We need to understand the difference between fake and real people hence, the problem will be solved.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Actually, a specific set or group of people disguised under liberal skin, is tend and paid to do exactly what many of us are talking about. Even, for the sack of argument here, intellectual liberals are silenced seeing what is happening and getting beyond control. The so-called candle mafia, brigade like Asma Jahangir etc have actually brought more bad to those educated liberal lot than any adversary at all. In my opinion, the meaning and reality of liberals is not what is being practiced here. It is more of deceit and lie to divert attention from real issues. A liberal or any sane person, never provoke others that will ultimately cause unrest in society and will bring harm. Mostly such people uses the so-called freedom of speech card to provoke others then shout the slogan of liberalism while being the reason of chaos at home. We need to understand the difference between fake and real people hence, the problem will be solved.

Problem with liberal brigade, is that they always shout "mullah" at any practicing Muslim.

 

[Secur]

This is what these sick liberals do. They commit crimes but always try to use the religious segment of our society as scapegoats.

Pakistan Army hasn't exactly been fighting with liberals in the North-West Pakistan, since the attack on twin towers. The Taliban, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Ahl-e-Sunnat-wal-Jamat, Sipah-e-Sahaba, Jamat-ul-Ahrar and countless other terrorists groups that have carried out the worst acts of violence and bloodbath in the country, aren't liberals. The people that have resulted in the death of 50k Pakistanis since '01 aren't. And so aren't the attackers of the army public school. It wasn't the liberals, tarnishing this country's reputation by challenging the writ of the Govt, from Red Mosque in Islamabad. The liberals didn't occupy Swat and Buner, they didn't shoot Malala Yousufzai. The liberals aren't targeting the Hazaras in Quetta, nor the alleged blasphemers by serving up vigilante justice. They weren't the ones who burned the Christian locality in Lahore. They aren't involved in the rampant sectarianism in South Punjab. They aren't chanting "Kaafir Kaafir Shia Kaafir" (Infidel, Shia is infidel). The liberals didn't flush this country with AK-47's and Heroin, they weren't busy giving rise to extremism and radicalization in the eighties. They also didn't create the Taliban and Mujahideen groups. No liberals have been found involved in any attacks on shrines. I can go on and on, but I think you got the drift.

You are blaming the wrong group for your troubles. Nothing can be farther from the truth, than the theory that the religious segment is being used as scape-goats. Its hilarious, actually.

 

[VCheng]

Pakistan Army hasn't exactly been fighting with liberals in the North-West Pakistan, since the attack on twin towers. The Taliban, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Ahl-e-Sunnat-wal-Jamat, Sipah-e-Sahaba, Jamat-ul-Ahrar and countless other terrorists groups that have carried out the worst acts of violence and bloodbath in the country, aren't liberals. The people that have resulted in the death of 50k Pakistanis since '01 aren't. And so aren't the attackers of the army public school. It wasn't the liberals, tarnishing this country's reputation by challenging the writ of the Govt, from Red Mosque in Islamabad. The liberals didn't occupy Swat and Buner, they didn't shoot Malala Yousufzai. The liberals aren't targeting the Hazaras in Quetta, nor the alleged blasphemers by serving up vigilante justice. They weren't the ones who burned the Christian locality in Lahore. They aren't involved in the rampant sectarianism in South Punjab. They aren't chanting "Kaafir Kaafir Shia Kaafir" (Infidel, Shia is infidel). The liberals didn't flush this country with AK-47's and Heroin, they weren't busy giving rise to extremism and radicalization in the eighties. They also didn't create the Taliban and Mujahideen groups. No liberals have been found involved in any attacks on shrines. I can go on and on, but I think you got the drift.

You are blaming the wrong group for your troubles. Nothing can be farther from the truth, than the theory that the religious segment is being used as scape-goats. Its hilarious, actually.

But liberals think. And that makes them more dangerous than AK-47s and heroin combined to those who wish control people's minds.

 

[Secur]

Indeed the liberal brigade is a cancer that needs to be dealt with in Pakistan.

Canada has no official church, and the government is officially committed to religious pluralism. Freedom of religion in Canada is a constitutionally protected right, allowing individuals to assemble and worship without limitation or interference. The practice of religion is now generally considered a private matter throughout society and the state. With Christianity in decline after having once been central and integral to Canadian culture and daily life, Canada has become a post-Christian, secular state. The majority of Canadians consider religion to be unimportant in their daily lives, but still believe in God. - Wikipedia

So liberalism is something that should be dealt with, in Pakistan, while you will continue to enjoy it in Canada?

But liberals think. And that makes them more dangerous than AK-47s and heroin combined to those who wish control people's minds.

Ironically, a large number of those criticizing secularism and liberalism, can't even differentiate between the two. Lol The nonsense, disguised as deep thinking and facts, I read on PDF now a days, seriously! Give me a milligram of Alprazolam. I really don't even consider myself as liberal, secular yes, but the twisting of the facts and the willfully falsely derived conclusions, makes my blood boil.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Canada has no official church, and the government is officially committed to religious pluralism. Freedom of religion in Canada is a constitutionally protected right, allowing individuals to assemble and worship without limitation or interference. The practice of religion is now generally considered a private matter throughout society and the state. With Christianity in decline after having once been central and integral to Canadian culture and daily life, Canada has become a post-Christian, secular state. The majority of Canadians consider religion to be unimportant in their daily lives, but still believe in God. - Wikipedia

So liberalism is something that should be dealt with, in Pakistan, while you will continue to enjoy it in Canada?




Ironically, a large number of those criticizing secularism and liberalism, can't even differentiate between the two. Lol The nonsense, disguised as deep thinking and facts, I read on PDF now a days, seriously! Give me a milligram of Alprazolam. I really don't even consider myself as liberal, secular yes, but the twisting of the facts and the willfully falsely derived conclusions, makes my blood boil.

I see no double standards in Canada, because Canada claims to be a secular country. Pakistan does not.

Nice try though.

So why should I not take advantage of the opportunity?

 

[Verve]

They see the world besides their parents

That's when they are out and about living on their own .... she's not been to Pakistan for how many years now so it is quite ridiculous that she's making statements on Pakistan. Making statements based on what's being fed by the people around you versus being on the ground yourself witnessing everything are the opposite in her case!

No, very genuine security reasons. I believe that I have already explained those, in my previous posts. She shouldn't return until a conducive time which isn't now, far too many haters plus extremists willing to end, what they started. If anyone should have made such offer, it should have been the state of Pakistan, not the little girl. In the absence of any such thing, why is she at fault for not visiting her hometown now, even if temporarily. Why is she required to do everything, by her own? Come on, you are grasping at straws now.

Her parents could have asked for security escort, just as they have been letting her make public statements and appearances! Swat is really so unsafe for her visit now?

Excuses excuses and more excuses ... yet without knowing jack sh!t about current ground realities (5 years this October since she was shot, a lot has changed in Swat), she's opening her mouth on Pakistan whenever something goes bad. Her full of assumptions statement on Mishal Khan's murder was disgusting to say the least and goes to show that it was all staged to fuel the fire and put Pakistan under a poor light.

She painted the whole Pakistani society 'We are enough for that', so yes people will be pissed off. She should open her eyes and look at what is going on in the country she's a residence of at present but nah, she won't utter one bad word despite being a noble winner!

If you were not a Pakistani, what image would have of the country after reading her statements? What she says is not for the consumption of Pakistanis, and anyone with any brains can see that clearly.

 

[Secur]

I see no double standards in Canada, because Canada claims to be a secular country. Pakistan does not.

Nice try though.

So why should I not take advantage of the opportunity?

It isn't important what Canada claims to be and what Pakistan does. My point simply is, if you are so disgusted by secularism and/or liberalism, you probably shouldn't be living in the decadent West, right? Again, you don't want something for your country, that you yourself enjoy, by your own choice there. The liberal brigade needs to be dealt in Pakistan, but you will continue to live amongst them, in Canada? Are you doing something about them there or it should only be us, dealing with them here? Is there a threat to your security, back home?

 

[Verve]

It isn't important what Canada claims to be and what Pakistan does. My point simply is, if you are so disgusted by secularism and/or liberalism, you probably shouldn't be living in the decadent West, right? Again, you don't want something for your country, that you yourself enjoy, by your own choice there. The liberal brigade needs to be dealt in Pakistan, but you will continue to live amongst them, in Canada? Are you doing something about them there or it should only be us, dealing with them here? Is there a threat to your security, back home?

Why is it that every single secular and liberal resorts to this question.

Answer is simple ... majority rules and minority abides by it.

Seculars and liberals are a minority in Pakistan so put up or leave. In West, the minority must put up with the majority or leave.

Simples!

None of us in west are talking of changing the system here, but you lot (a tiny minority) want a system change in Pakistan!

 

[Secur]

Her parents could have asked for security escort, just as they have been letting her make public statements and appearances! Swat is really so unsafe for her visit now?

Excuses excuses and more excuses ... yet without knowing jack sh!t about current ground realities (5 years this October since she was shot, a lot has changed in Swat), she's opening her mouth on Pakistan whenever something goes bad. Her full of assumptions statement on Mishal Khan's murder was disgusting to say the least and goes to show that it was all staged to fuel the fire and put Pakistan under a poor light.

She painted the whole Pakistani society 'We are enough for that', so yes people will be pissed off. She should open her eyes and look at what is going on in the country she's a residence of at present but nah, she won't utter one bad word despite being a noble winner!

If you were not a Pakistani, what image would have of the country after reading her statements? What she says is not for the consumption of Pakistanis, and anyone with any brains can see that clearly.

And now we are running around in circles. All that you are repeating, has been discussed in the previous posts. But since you guys expect really high impractical standards from a child, I shouldn't proceed further. The girl should be doing everything, while the state of Pakistan sits in hibernation mode. I asked you to provide me a source, for all these things that you keep talking about "the grooming", the western handlers part, the speeches on sensitive issues and the criticism of Pakistan. I still haven't got anything for that, sadly.

Why is it that every single secular and liberal resorts to this question.

Answer is simple ... majority rules and minority abides by it.

Seculars and liberals are a minority in Pakistan so put up or leave. In West, the minority must put up with the majority or leave.

Simples!

None of us in west are talking of changing the system here, but you lot (a tiny minority) want a system change in Pakistan!

Oh, you know why. The hypocrisy gets too much to handle, for anybody, which is why the question is put forward. The points have already been answered in the post that you are quoting. Please read it again. Its not so simples!

The seculars and/or liberals in Pakistan, were mostly born here. None of them are trying to change the system, as far as we know. You shouldn't demand that they pack their bags, because this is their homeland. You guys, on the other hand, are out in the West without any compulsion and by your own choice. If you don't like their ideology, values, visions and system. Why persist in living there? Lol

 

[Divergent]

Its all fine.

When you can sell Oprah but still sell Kardashian you have your Rhines crossed.

We won't let her be. Had a fassadi not made this thread I would never have come to know that she acting normal would garner such attention.

We all know how it will end.

The only thing she should trigger in anyone's mind is

Education is important.

Rest is just turf war.

You do realise I don't give a toss about your Fassadi comment.

I have no issue with Malala personally. What happened to her was terrible, but I don't understand the selective nature of our desi liberals. If getting shot for going to school is the criteria for being a hero in Pakistan then there was a particular student in the APS attacks that was shot 8 times and lived to continue going to school, but I don't hear any of these people speaking up for him.

Remember these people that jump on the liberal bandwagon and are outspoken on social media are the same type of people that abuse their mulazims at home. These are all crocodile tears to appear modern and secular to westerners because they crave their approval. Most of these liberal Pakistanis suffer a very deep seated inferiority complex which is no different to rubbing stillman's cream on their faces.

Yet ironically you're the one who was being racist with bullshit like 'Kaley Angrezi' - lmao

And now we are running around in circles. All that you are repeating, has been discussed in the previous posts. But since you guys expect really high impractical standards from a child, I shouldn't proceed further. The girl should be doing everything, while the state of Pakistan sits in hibernation mode. I asked you to provide me a source, for all these things that you keep talking about "the grooming", the western handlers part, the speeches on sensitive issues and the criticism of Pakistan. I still haven't got anything for that, sadly.



Oh, you know why. The hypocrisy gets too much to handle, for anybody, which is why the question is put forward. The points have already been answered in the post that you are quoting. Please read it again. Its not so simples!

The seculars and/or liberals in Pakistan, were mostly born here. None of them are trying to change the system, as far as we know. You shouldn't demand that they pack their bags, because this is their homeland. You guys, on the other hand, are out in the West without any compulsion and by your own choice. If you don't like their ideology, values, visions and system. Why persist in living there? Lol

Both of these Mullahs are sat abroad criticising West well GTFO and go back to Pakistan, or are their lives in threat as well? They want better living and education systems for themselves and children but question a female who missed a near bullet to a brain. What a load.

 

[Hulk]

This guy argued well. I liked his argument. I am not a Malala fan as she is a hypocrite, but his argument is good.