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Majority of Pakistanis still consider India as a threat: Poll

Though terror groups continue to strike in their country, a majority of Pakistanis still consider India as a major threat, view America as an enemy and are far less concerned about Taliban and al-Qaeda.

While Pakistanis express serious concerns about the US, they have also deep worries about neighbour and longtime rival India than extremist groups within Pakistan, according to the prestigious Pew Research Centre opinion poll carried out inside Pakistan.

"When asked which is the greatest threat to their country - India, the Taliban or al-Qaeda - slightly more than half of Pakistanis (53 per cent) choose India, compared with 23 per cent for Taliban and just 3 per cent for al-Qaeda," it said.

However, despite the deep-seated tensions between India and Pakistan, most Pakistanis want better ties with India.

Roughly seven-in-ten (72 per cent ) said it is important for relations with India to improve and about three-quarters support increased trade with India and further talks between the two rivals, it said.

Inspite of pumping in billions of dollars in economic and military aid, the US image in Pakistan was at its lowest ever among the 22 nations included in the poll. Fifty-nine per cent of the respondents described America as an enemy and only eight per cent trusted President Barack Obama.

The Pakistanis saw little threat from Taliban and al-Qaeda and only 25 per cent of the people said it would be bad for Islamabad if Taliban takes over again Afghanistan.

While 18 per cent said it would be good for Pakistan 57 per cent were not concerned.

State Department spokesman P J Crowley conceded that there is a huge trust deficit between the US and Pakistan.

"We understand and the Secretary (of State) in her recent trip and also in her trip last October understand that there's a deficit in trust in our relationship. There are those in Pakistan who recall and sense that they were abandoned by the US and the international community, going back 20 years or more," he said.

Crowley said the US has worked hard in recent months to try to turn this relationship around.

"I think we recognise that this was not going to occur overnight. We have tried to communicate forcefully to not only the government, but also to the people directly, that the US is committed to the future of Pakistan," he said.

"We are, in fact, a partner. I think we're not surprised that people want to see fruits of this partnership; that's exactly what we're trying to do. It goes back to what the Secretary announced in Islamabad last week concrete projects that on energy, on health, on education that will create tangible results so the people of Pakistan can see it. And when they see it, then we would expect to see those poll numbers prospectively improve," he said.

The spokesman said the Secretary of State last week spent a lot of time engaged directly with the Pakistani people.

"I think coming out of the trip last week, we felt a change in tone. But we understand that this is a long-term proposition which we take seriously and feel is vitally important to, over time, demonstrate to the people of Pakistan that the United States is genuinely interested in a different long-term relationship with the country," he said.

Crowley said the people of Pakistan have questions and concerns about the nature of US-Pak relationship.

"Likewise, as we've seen in recent days, there have been questions raised, and we are involved in a respectful dialogue with the government and the people of Pakistan," he said.

"We do think that over time, people will begin to understand and see that there's genuine and mutual respect and benefit for this relationship. And as people are able to see those benefits firsthand, then we would expect to see an improvement in not only the tone, but also the substance of our relationship. But we didn't expect this to change overnight," he said.

"We are going to continue to work hard to help people understand that there has been a fundamental shift by the United States and a fundamental shift by Pakistan in the nature of our relationship," Crowley said.

Despite the prevalence of negative opinions about the US, Pew Research Center said most Pakistanis want better relations between the two countries.

Nearly two-in-three (64 per cent) say it is important for relations with the US to improve, up from 53 per cent last year, it said.

Majority of Pakistanis still consider India as a threat: Poll
 
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Terrorism is a Threat to Pakistanis where India is a threat to Pakistan which puts India on top of the leader and it does not mean that we Underestimate the threats of Terror.

Most of the terror is coming from India anyway which makes India a Direct and an Indirect Threat & we should remain conscious of it.
 
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The key things here is that most Pakistanis want relations with India to improve, with 72% saying relations need to improve and about 75% saying trade needs to increase.
 
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it is time for pakistan to teach india a lesson

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So, is this a world record for the fastest derailing of a thread?
 
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So, is this a world record for the fastest derailing of a thread?

No :partay:
I have seen threads getting derailed from the 2nd post :D
Derailing is an Art, unfortunately we cannot beat an Indian on that,
say Kashmir, Kargil, 26/11 and whole sort of BS starts to come your way :rofl:
 
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India is a threat, US is even a bigger threat. There was no such thing as terror groups before 9/11. Everything changed after that and that because of our unconditional support without judging the consequences in mind. It was a one man decision, even the cor commanders weren't supportive of joining the WOT bandwagon.
 
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Militarily they are not a threat. We have them in gridlock with nuclear weapons. Kargil is an example. India is not a direct enemy. I think bullshit to the north is enemy to Desi culture and heritage and future friendship.
 
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India is a threat, US is even a bigger threat. There was no such thing as terror groups before 9/11. Everything changed after that and that because of our unconditional support without judging the consequences in mind. It was a one man decision, even the cor commanders weren't supportive of joining the WOT bandwagon.

india is not threat,india is busy in growth.india is pak's self imagined enemy.if war is imposed ,then retaliation is necessary
 
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Pakistanis Ask: Drones? What Drones? | Danger Room | Wired.com

Here in the America, the CIA’s drone program targeting extremists in the tribal areas of Pakistan is the subject of heated debate. The CIA calls it a uniquely valuable and precise counterterrorism tool. The Obama administration, which has stepped up the program significantly since taking office, considers it legal under the 2001 congressional Authorization to Use Military Force. The human-rights community, along with many security experts, fear that the program will create more terrorists than it kills due to anger at civilian casualties.

Pakistanis, however, think the drones are — sorry; huh? What are you talking about? Did you say clones?

That’s according to a new Pew poll on Pakistani attitudes (.pdf) that’s filled with surprises. Top of the list: “Just over one-in-three Pakistanis (35 percent) have heard about the drone strikes.” Apparently, Pakistanis barely know this program even exists. Another 43 percent say they’ve heard “nothing at all” about the drones. You can hear the champagne corks popping at Langley.

But it’s not exactly time for bottle service. Amongst those Pakistanis who have heard of the drones, opinion skews predictably negative. Ninety-three percent say they’re a bad or “very bad” thing. Ninety percent say they kill too many innocent people. While some researchers claim that if you limit your pool of respondents to the tribal areas, support for the drones actually goes up, 32 percent of overall respondents think they’re a necessary measure. (Although perhaps that’s a robust total of people saying a foreign government should shoot missiles at their fellow countrymen.) And almost half of Pakistanis believe the fiction that the drone strikes occur without Pakistani government approval.

That’s not all the poll found: Pakistanis are freaked out about their economy; highly anti-American; and less concerned about terrorism than they used to be — although that latter part might not be such a bad thing.After a $7.5 billion aid package passed Congress last year to bolster Pakistan’s civilian government and reeling economy, here’s what the United States has to show for it: Pakistanis exhibit as much anti-American sentiment as any populace on earth. According to Pew, 59 percent of Pakistanis consider the United States an enemy, and only 17 percent consider the Unites States a friend. “Pakistanis give the U.S. its lowest ratings among the 22 nations included in the spring 2010 Pew Global Attitudes survey,” the poll notes. You have to go to Egypt or Turkey to find similarly negative views of the United States in Pew’s findings — a fact, perhaps, that helps contextualize why the Pakistani intelligence apparatus funds U.S. enemies in Afghanistan, as WikiLeaks reminded us this week. Still, 64 percent say they want better relations with the United States.

Then there’s Pakistani attitudes on terrorism, something the poll considers ominous. “As Pakistani forces continue to battle extremist groups within the country, nearly all Pakistanis describe terrorism as a very big problem,” it warns. “However, they have grown markedly less concerned that extremists might take control of the country.” Specifically, 69 percent worried in 2009 that the Pakistani Taliban and affiliated groups might rout the government. Now only 51 percent feel that way. Is that necessarily bad?

Haider Mullick, a Pakistani scholar at the U.S. Joint Special Operations University recently returned from a wide-ranging trip surveying Pakistani military development during the army’s 18-month campaign against the Tehrek-e-Taliban, or TTP. The effort brought Pakistani troops into tough battles in South Waziristan. In his view, it’s natural for Pakistanis to be less concerned about an enemy that they see their army battling, especially considering that last spring, the Taliban were entrenched barely 60 miles from the capitol city of Islamabad.

“TTP lost major territory in Swat, Buner, Shangla, Bannu, South Waziristan. That’s very significant,” Mullick says. “Also, historically speaking, once an insurgent group becomes weak, popular support for reconciliation goes up.” And the fight against the insurgents still has popular backing: 49 percent of Pakistanis support it, far more than the 20 percent who oppose it, though 30 percent register mixed feelings.

The Pakistani military effort in the tribal areas is a mixed picture. By January 2010, the United Nations Refugee Agency accommodated 114,000 refugees from the fighting in camps it set up in the Northwest Frontier Province, with nearly a million more living in nearby “host communities.” The military is apparently holding territory in Swat and South Waziristan, though there’s not much of a civilian government presence there. Militants have been making their way to the Punjabi heartland of the country and the military has yet to advance into North Waziristan, the remaining safe havens of al-Qaida, the TTP and their allies. But the campaign has won persistent accolades from generals David Petraeus and Jim Mattis, who note — as did the Pakistani ambassador to the United States this week — that more Pakistani troops have died fighting Taliban than NATO troops have in nine years.

Paradoxically, the military’s fight against the Taliban may have impacted Pakistani sentiments toward extremist groups. Fifteen percent of Pakistanis rate the TTP favorably, though, and 18 percent have favorable views of al-Qaida. Both are higher than last year’s 10 and 9 percent favorables, respectively. But Pakistani perceptions of both groups are still down from 2008 levels, when a roughly a quarter of Pakistanis expressed approval of al-Qaida and the Pakistani Taliban. And the negative ratings for both groups are high, although the TTP’s 65 percent unfavorable rating outstrips the 53 percent antipathy Pakistanis record for al-Qaida.

Still, no matter how you dissect the poll, what comes through is Pakistani dissatisfaction. President Asif Ali Zardari has an approval rating of 20 percent, more than 40 percent lower than when he took office. The economy has been hit hard by the global downturn, and about half of Pakistanis expect things to get worse, while only 35 percent were pessimists last year. “Corruption, economy, energy, inflation trumps the threat from terrorism in many places,” says Mullick. See? We’re not so different after all.
 
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We can strike when necessary, within hours, and in a way that is penetrating and unforesaking. India, being the bearer of our malintent, knows well to mind her business and focus on growth. It is our crazy populace ignoring Afghan and extremist Mullah threats as well as Taliban and all things bastard who is blaming India for everything when there is no answers. Bahi lohg...when there is no answer focus your nose to the north. As well as to the segment beseiged by outside pressure and folding like a house of shitty cards.
 
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