Mahira Khan says Pakistanis and Indians are similar people with same language in new interview

[A.M.]

Define culture. Germans and French and Polish and Belgians and Italians are similar culturally as well as the British.

No they're not. Significant differences in languages, foods, cultural history etc.

Don't be so close minded. We're very similar, always have been and always will be.

 

[TMA]

No they're not. Significant differences in languages, foods, cultural history etc.

Don't be so close minded. We're very similar, always have been and always will be.

So define significant differences in language and in food and in cultural history.

It is my opinion that the Germans, French, Belgians, Italians, Polish and British are closer to one another than the People of the Subcontinent are to one another.
Just look at Pakistan. Different provinces have different languages and different cultures. Compare Lahore to Peshawar. Compare Multan to Quetta. Compare Karachi to Turbat. Compare Gilgit to Mardan. There is more difference in the country of Pakistan than there is between French and Germans or Germans and Italians....
Then coming onto Bharat...well that is Pakistan x 10...

To give it some perspective, the Indian Subcontinent ought to be compared to the European (Sub)Continent. Great similarities but distinct differences and enough differences to make the differences stand out.

 

[niaz]

I am surprised by the attack on Urdu as the national language by some of my compatriots. Being one of the oldest members of this august forum, I have like to post my views on the choice of Urdu as our national language.

I formally studied Urdu only at the elementary level at the St Mary’s Rawalpindi which means ‘Not a lot’. In the F.Sc. my optional subject was Persian and it was not until I moved into the New Hostel of Gov’t College Lahore and started attending Mushairas and debates held at the Open Air Theatre of the Gov’t College that I had interaction with the Urdu poets and writers. Since that time I have been in love with the Urdu language and the Urdu poetry by the likes of Ghalib, Iqbal, Faiz and Ahmed Faraz. Without demeaning the local languages and their dialects; IMO Urdu language has finesse and civility which is not found in the other spoken languages of Pakistan. That could be the reason why so many Punjabi speaking poets and prose writers elected to write in Urdu instead.

However, one must wonder that even though more than 90% of Pakistanis do not speak Urdu as their mother tongue; why was it chosen as the national language of Pakistan? To answer this question one needs to delve into the history.

Understand at the time of Muslim invasion of the tenth century by the Mahmud Ghaznavi, the spoken language of present-day Punjab & Northern India was a dialect of Prakrit known as Shauraseni Prakrit.

Urdu is derived from the old Turkish word “Ordu” which means the army / the army camp. As the name suggests, Urdu evolved as a mean of communication between the Muslim soldiers and the native population; hence origins of Urdu language is linked with the invading Muslim soldiers.

I have come across three theories on the origin of Urdu language. One is that it developed by the amalgamation of Turkish/Persian with the ‘Khari Boli’ (the language of Delhi/Mathura region).

The second claims that Urdu was a result of the first contact between Muslim & Hindus at the time of Mahmud Ghaznavi when a large number of Turks, Persians & Afghans settled in Punjab & Multan (then a separate state ruled by the Ismailis).

The third advanced by Dr Mahmud Hussein of Aligarh postulates that the Urdu language evolved through grafting of Persian language on the Hariani, the language of the natives of Delhi in the early days of the Sultanate.

Regardless of how the Urdu originated, the fact remains that it has always been irrevocably associated with the Muslims of the sub-continent.

Before the partition, Muslim Hyderabad State was the only one to adopt Urdu as their official language and where the only university to teach all subjects including Sciences in Urdu; the Osmania University was located. Nevertheless, to Muslims of Northern and Western India, Urdu had become an integral part of the political identity and communal separatism and the political cause of Urdu became a core issue at the heart of the Two Nation Theory.

All India Muslim League and the Jamaat Islami projected Urdu as essential for the political & cultural unity of the subcontinent Muslims. Muslim politicians like Sir Mohammed Iqbal, Liaqat Ali Khan, Maulana Mohammed Ali Jauhar & Maulana Shaukat Ali used Urdu as the symbol of Muslim heritage and political identity.

Let us be clear, Urdu was never “IMPOSED” on Pakistanis. Since Urdu had been associated with the Pakistan movement since the beginning and was the only language understood by the educated classes of all of the four provinces; the Founding Fathers and the political leaders of the time including Quaid-e-Azam, whose mother tongue was Gujarati; freely adopted Urdu as the national language of Pakistan after independence.

Looking at the matter totally dispassionately, since the adoption of Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashto or Baluchi as the national language, would imply linguistic hegemony of one province over another; only neutral option available to the Founding Fathers was to choose either English or Urdu as the national language.

For precisely the same reason, political leaders from all the four provinces of Pakistan once again unanimously adopted Urdu as the national language of Pakistan in 1973 Constitution.

Association of Urdu with the Muslims of the subcontinent is also evident from the fact that only Muslim majority state of India; the occupied Kashmir, has also adopted Urdu as their national language.

Can one honestly say that Punjabi would be acceptable to Pashtuns, Sindhis or the Baluchs? Or would Punjabis & Sindhis freely accept Pashto as the National language of Pakistan?

Finally, for better or for worse and whether you like it or not, Urdu is the national language of Pakistan and I humbly request all Pakistanis to avoid denigrating it.

 

[Hamza913]

I am surprised by the attack on Urdu as the national language by some of my compatriots. Being one of the oldest members of this august forum, I have like to post my views on the choice of Urdu as our national language.

I formally studied Urdu only at the elementary level at the St Mary’s Rawalpindi which means ‘Not a lot’. In the F.Sc. my optional subject was Persian and it was not until I moved into the New Hostel of Gov’t College Lahore and started attending Mushairas and debates held at the Open Air Theatre of the Gov’t College that I had interaction with the Urdu poets and writers. Since that time I have been in love with the Urdu language and the Urdu poetry by the likes of Ghalib, Iqbal, Faiz and Ahmed Faraz. Without demeaning the local languages and their dialects; IMO Urdu language has finesse and civility which is not found in the other spoken languages of Pakistan. That could be the reason why so many Punjabi speaking poets and prose writers elected to write in Urdu instead.

However, one must wonder that even though more than 90% of Pakistanis do not speak Urdu as their mother tongue; why was it chosen as the national language of Pakistan? To answer this question one needs to delve into the history.

Understand at the time of Muslim invasion of the tenth century by the Mahmud Ghaznavi, the spoken language of present-day Punjab & Northern India was a dialect of Prakrit known as Shauraseni Prakrit.

Urdu is derived from the old Turkish word “Ordu” which means the army / the army camp. As the name suggests, Urdu evolved as a mean of communication between the Muslim soldiers and the native population; hence origins of Urdu language is linked with the invading Muslim soldiers.

I have come across three theories on the origin of Urdu language. One is that it developed by the amalgamation of Turkish/Persian with the ‘Khari Boli’ (the language of Delhi/Mathura region).

The second claims that Urdu was a result of the first contact between Muslim & Hindus at the time of Mahmud Ghaznavi when a large number of Turks, Persians & Afghans settled in Punjab & Multan (then a separate state ruled by the Ismailis).

The third advanced by Dr Mahmud Hussein of Aligarh postulates that the Urdu language evolved through grafting of Persian language on the Hariani, the language of the natives of Delhi in the early days of the Sultanate.

Regardless of how the Urdu originated, the fact remains that it has always been irrevocably associated with the Muslims of the sub-continent.

Before the partition, Muslim Hyderabad State was the only one to adopt Urdu as their official language and where the only university to teach all subjects including Sciences in Urdu; the Osmania University was located. Nevertheless, to Muslims of Northern and Western India, Urdu had become an integral part of the political identity and communal separatism and the political cause of Urdu became a core issue at the heart of the Two Nation Theory.

All India Muslim League and the Jamaat Islami projected Urdu as essential for the political & cultural unity of the subcontinent Muslims. Muslim politicians like Sir Mohammed Iqbal, Liaqat Ali Khan, Maulana Mohammed Ali Jauhar & Maulana Shaukat Ali used Urdu as the symbol of Muslim heritage and political identity.

Let us be clear, Urdu was never “IMPOSED” on Pakistanis. Since Urdu had been associated with the Pakistan movement since the beginning and was the only language understood by the educated classes of all of the four provinces; the Founding Fathers and the political leaders of the time including Quaid-e-Azam, whose mother tongue was Gujarati; freely adopted Urdu as the national language of Pakistan after independence.

Looking at the matter totally dispassionately, since the adoption of Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashto or Baluchi as the national language, would imply linguistic hegemony of one province over another; only neutral option available to the Founding Fathers was to choose either English or Urdu as the national language.

For precisely the same reason, political leaders from all the four provinces of Pakistan once again unanimously adopted Urdu as the national language of Pakistan in 1973 Constitution.

Association of Urdu with the Muslims of the subcontinent is also evident from the fact that only Muslim majority state of India; the occupied Kashmir, has also adopted Urdu as their national language.

Can one honestly say that Punjabi would be acceptable to Pashtuns, Sindhis or the Baluchs? Or would Punjabis & Sindhis freely accept Pashto as the National language of Pakistan?

Finally, for better or for worse and whether you like it or not, Urdu is the national language of Pakistan and I humbly request all Pakistanis to avoid denigrating it.

Asalamu Alaikum

We love the language, but we wouldn't mind changing it a little so we differ ourselves more from Hindustan.

 

[El Sidd]

I am surprised by the attack on Urdu as the national language by some of my compatriots. Being one of the oldest members of this august forum, I have like to post my views on the choice of Urdu as our national language.

I formally studied Urdu only at the elementary level at the St Mary’s Rawalpindi which means ‘Not a lot’. In the F.Sc. my optional subject was Persian and it was not until I moved into the New Hostel of Gov’t College Lahore and started attending Mushairas and debates held at the Open Air Theatre of the Gov’t College that I had interaction with the Urdu poets and writers. Since that time I have been in love with the Urdu language and the Urdu poetry by the likes of Ghalib, Iqbal, Faiz and Ahmed Faraz. Without demeaning the local languages and their dialects; IMO Urdu language has finesse and civility which is not found in the other spoken languages of Pakistan. That could be the reason why so many Punjabi speaking poets and prose writers elected to write in Urdu instead.

However, one must wonder that even though more than 90% of Pakistanis do not speak Urdu as their mother tongue; why was it chosen as the national language of Pakistan? To answer this question one needs to delve into the history.

Understand at the time of Muslim invasion of the tenth century by the Mahmud Ghaznavi, the spoken language of present-day Punjab & Northern India was a dialect of Prakrit known as Shauraseni Prakrit.

Urdu is derived from the old Turkish word “Ordu” which means the army / the army camp. As the name suggests, Urdu evolved as a mean of communication between the Muslim soldiers and the native population; hence origins of Urdu language is linked with the invading Muslim soldiers.

I have come across three theories on the origin of Urdu language. One is that it developed by the amalgamation of Turkish/Persian with the ‘Khari Boli’ (the language of Delhi/Mathura region).

The second claims that Urdu was a result of the first contact between Muslim & Hindus at the time of Mahmud Ghaznavi when a large number of Turks, Persians & Afghans settled in Punjab & Multan (then a separate state ruled by the Ismailis).

The third advanced by Dr Mahmud Hussein of Aligarh postulates that the Urdu language evolved through grafting of Persian language on the Hariani, the language of the natives of Delhi in the early days of the Sultanate.

Regardless of how the Urdu originated, the fact remains that it has always been irrevocably associated with the Muslims of the sub-continent.

Before the partition, Muslim Hyderabad State was the only one to adopt Urdu as their official language and where the only university to teach all subjects including Sciences in Urdu; the Osmania University was located. Nevertheless, to Muslims of Northern and Western India, Urdu had become an integral part of the political identity and communal separatism and the political cause of Urdu became a core issue at the heart of the Two Nation Theory.

All India Muslim League and the Jamaat Islami projected Urdu as essential for the political & cultural unity of the subcontinent Muslims. Muslim politicians like Sir Mohammed Iqbal, Liaqat Ali Khan, Maulana Mohammed Ali Jauhar & Maulana Shaukat Ali used Urdu as the symbol of Muslim heritage and political identity.

Let us be clear, Urdu was never “IMPOSED” on Pakistanis. Since Urdu had been associated with the Pakistan movement since the beginning and was the only language understood by the educated classes of all of the four provinces; the Founding Fathers and the political leaders of the time including Quaid-e-Azam, whose mother tongue was Gujarati; freely adopted Urdu as the national language of Pakistan after independence.

Looking at the matter totally dispassionately, since the adoption of Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashto or Baluchi as the national language, would imply linguistic hegemony of one province over another; only neutral option available to the Founding Fathers was to choose either English or Urdu as the national language.

For precisely the same reason, political leaders from all the four provinces of Pakistan once again unanimously adopted Urdu as the national language of Pakistan in 1973 Constitution.

Association of Urdu with the Muslims of the subcontinent is also evident from the fact that only Muslim majority state of India; the occupied Kashmir, has also adopted Urdu as their national language.

Can one honestly say that Punjabi would be acceptable to Pashtuns, Sindhis or the Baluchs? Or would Punjabis & Sindhis freely accept Pashto as the National language of Pakistan?

Finally, for better or for worse and whether you like it or not, Urdu is the national language of Pakistan and I humbly request all Pakistanis to avoid denigrating it.

We prefer the Superior language of farsi.

Mighty Iran is the reason why we survive today.

 

[Metanoia]

Asalamu Alaikum

We love the language, but we wouldn't mind changing it a little so we differ ourselves more from Hindustan.

Walayum As Salam.

It was already quite different than Hindustani/Sanskrit. It is your modern Pakistanis and their bollywood inspired ideals which have brought about the abhorrence in modern day "Urdu". It is the Pakistanis themselves who are too lazy to enunciate the correct and proper alphabets/sounds of the Urdu language. They speak and talk extremely fast without any finesse or dignity whatsoever which makes Urdu sound like a south indian language to a foreigner.

Pakistanis need to change themselves first and foremost.

 

[El Sidd]

Walayum As Salam.

It was already quite different than Hindustani/Sanskrit. It is your modern Pakistanis and their bollywood inspired ideals which has brought about abhorrence in the modern day "Urdu". It is the Pakistanis themselves who are too lazy to enunciate the correct and proper alphabets/sounds of the Urdu language. They speak and talk extremely fast without any finesse or dignity whatsoever which makes Urdu sound like a south indian language to a foreigner.

Pakistanis need to change themselves first and foremost.

Aint Nobody got the Time to pronounce the noon ghunna.

 

[Metanoia]

Finally, for better or for worse and whether you like it or not, Urdu is the national language of Pakistan and I humbly request all Pakistanis to avoid denigrating it.

There is a very complexed breed on this forum who are now touting something by the name of "Indus Nationalism". It's a new religion apparently. Hating on the Urdu speakers and Urdu language is apparently one of their principles.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

I am surprised by the attack on Urdu as the national language by some of my compatriots. Being one of the oldest members of this august forum, I have like to post my views on the choice of Urdu as our national language.

I formally studied Urdu only at the elementary level at the St Mary’s Rawalpindi which means ‘Not a lot’. In the F.Sc. my optional subject was Persian and it was not until I moved into the New Hostel of Gov’t College Lahore and started attending Mushairas and debates held at the Open Air Theatre of the Gov’t College that I had interaction with the Urdu poets and writers. Since that time I have been in love with the Urdu language and the Urdu poetry by the likes of Ghalib, Iqbal, Faiz and Ahmed Faraz. Without demeaning the local languages and their dialects; IMO Urdu language has finesse and civility which is not found in the other spoken languages of Pakistan. That could be the reason why so many Punjabi speaking poets and prose writers elected to write in Urdu instead.

However, one must wonder that even though more than 90% of Pakistanis do not speak Urdu as their mother tongue; why was it chosen as the national language of Pakistan? To answer this question one needs to delve into the history.

Understand at the time of Muslim invasion of the tenth century by the Mahmud Ghaznavi, the spoken language of present-day Punjab & Northern India was a dialect of Prakrit known as Shauraseni Prakrit.

Urdu is derived from the old Turkish word “Ordu” which means the army / the army camp. As the name suggests, Urdu evolved as a mean of communication between the Muslim soldiers and the native population; hence origins of Urdu language is linked with the invading Muslim soldiers.

I have come across three theories on the origin of Urdu language. One is that it developed by the amalgamation of Turkish/Persian with the ‘Khari Boli’ (the language of Delhi/Mathura region).

The second claims that Urdu was a result of the first contact between Muslim & Hindus at the time of Mahmud Ghaznavi when a large number of Turks, Persians & Afghans settled in Punjab & Multan (then a separate state ruled by the Ismailis).

The third advanced by Dr Mahmud Hussein of Aligarh postulates that the Urdu language evolved through grafting of Persian language on the Hariani, the language of the natives of Delhi in the early days of the Sultanate.

Regardless of how the Urdu originated, the fact remains that it has always been irrevocably associated with the Muslims of the sub-continent.

Before the partition, Muslim Hyderabad State was the only one to adopt Urdu as their official language and where the only university to teach all subjects including Sciences in Urdu; the Osmania University was located. Nevertheless, to Muslims of Northern and Western India, Urdu had become an integral part of the political identity and communal separatism and the political cause of Urdu became a core issue at the heart of the Two Nation Theory.

All India Muslim League and the Jamaat Islami projected Urdu as essential for the political & cultural unity of the subcontinent Muslims. Muslim politicians like Sir Mohammed Iqbal, Liaqat Ali Khan, Maulana Mohammed Ali Jauhar & Maulana Shaukat Ali used Urdu as the symbol of Muslim heritage and political identity.

Let us be clear, Urdu was never “IMPOSED” on Pakistanis. Since Urdu had been associated with the Pakistan movement since the beginning and was the only language understood by the educated classes of all of the four provinces; the Founding Fathers and the political leaders of the time including Quaid-e-Azam, whose mother tongue was Gujarati; freely adopted Urdu as the national language of Pakistan after independence.

Looking at the matter totally dispassionately, since the adoption of Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashto or Baluchi as the national language, would imply linguistic hegemony of one province over another; only neutral option available to the Founding Fathers was to choose either English or Urdu as the national language.

For precisely the same reason, political leaders from all the four provinces of Pakistan once again unanimously adopted Urdu as the national language of Pakistan in 1973 Constitution.

Association of Urdu with the Muslims of the subcontinent is also evident from the fact that only Muslim majority state of India; the occupied Kashmir, has also adopted Urdu as their national language.

Can one honestly say that Punjabi would be acceptable to Pashtuns, Sindhis or the Baluchs? Or would Punjabis & Sindhis freely accept Pashto as the National language of Pakistan?

Finally, for better or for worse and whether you like it or not, Urdu is the national language of Pakistan and I humbly request all Pakistanis to avoid denigrating it.

Those who consider Urdu (national languge) as foreign language want to replace this with another foreign language i.e persian to bring themselves more closer to Iranians lol

Asalamu Alaikum

We love the language, but we wouldn't mind changing it a little so we differ ourselves more from Hindustan.

Whats next after language ? food? Change it according to taste of Iranian and arabian

 

[TMA]

I am surprised by the attack on Urdu as the national language by some of my compatriots. Being one of the oldest members of this august forum, I have like to post my views on the choice of Urdu as our national language.

I formally studied Urdu only at the elementary level at the St Mary’s Rawalpindi which means ‘Not a lot’. In the F.Sc. my optional subject was Persian and it was not until I moved into the New Hostel of Gov’t College Lahore and started attending Mushairas and debates held at the Open Air Theatre of the Gov’t College that I had interaction with the Urdu poets and writers. Since that time I have been in love with the Urdu language and the Urdu poetry by the likes of Ghalib, Iqbal, Faiz and Ahmed Faraz. Without demeaning the local languages and their dialects; IMO Urdu language has finesse and civility which is not found in the other spoken languages of Pakistan. That could be the reason why so many Punjabi speaking poets and prose writers elected to write in Urdu instead.

However, one must wonder that even though more than 90% of Pakistanis do not speak Urdu as their mother tongue; why was it chosen as the national language of Pakistan? To answer this question one needs to delve into the history.

Understand at the time of Muslim invasion of the tenth century by the Mahmud Ghaznavi, the spoken language of present-day Punjab & Northern India was a dialect of Prakrit known as Shauraseni Prakrit.

Urdu is derived from the old Turkish word “Ordu” which means the army / the army camp. As the name suggests, Urdu evolved as a mean of communication between the Muslim soldiers and the native population; hence origins of Urdu language is linked with the invading Muslim soldiers.

I have come across three theories on the origin of Urdu language. One is that it developed by the amalgamation of Turkish/Persian with the ‘Khari Boli’ (the language of Delhi/Mathura region).

The second claims that Urdu was a result of the first contact between Muslim & Hindus at the time of Mahmud Ghaznavi when a large number of Turks, Persians & Afghans settled in Punjab & Multan (then a separate state ruled by the Ismailis).

The third advanced by Dr Mahmud Hussein of Aligarh postulates that the Urdu language evolved through grafting of Persian language on the Hariani, the language of the natives of Delhi in the early days of the Sultanate.

Regardless of how the Urdu originated, the fact remains that it has always been irrevocably associated with the Muslims of the sub-continent.

Before the partition, Muslim Hyderabad State was the only one to adopt Urdu as their official language and where the only university to teach all subjects including Sciences in Urdu; the Osmania University was located. Nevertheless, to Muslims of Northern and Western India, Urdu had become an integral part of the political identity and communal separatism and the political cause of Urdu became a core issue at the heart of the Two Nation Theory.

All India Muslim League and the Jamaat Islami projected Urdu as essential for the political & cultural unity of the subcontinent Muslims. Muslim politicians like Sir Mohammed Iqbal, Liaqat Ali Khan, Maulana Mohammed Ali Jauhar & Maulana Shaukat Ali used Urdu as the symbol of Muslim heritage and political identity.

Let us be clear, Urdu was never “IMPOSED” on Pakistanis. Since Urdu had been associated with the Pakistan movement since the beginning and was the only language understood by the educated classes of all of the four provinces; the Founding Fathers and the political leaders of the time including Quaid-e-Azam, whose mother tongue was Gujarati; freely adopted Urdu as the national language of Pakistan after independence.

Looking at the matter totally dispassionately, since the adoption of Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashto or Baluchi as the national language, would imply linguistic hegemony of one province over another; only neutral option available to the Founding Fathers was to choose either English or Urdu as the national language.

For precisely the same reason, political leaders from all the four provinces of Pakistan once again unanimously adopted Urdu as the national language of Pakistan in 1973 Constitution.

Association of Urdu with the Muslims of the subcontinent is also evident from the fact that only Muslim majority state of India; the occupied Kashmir, has also adopted Urdu as their national language.

Can one honestly say that Punjabi would be acceptable to Pashtuns, Sindhis or the Baluchs? Or would Punjabis & Sindhis freely accept Pashto as the National language of Pakistan?

Finally, for better or for worse and whether you like it or not, Urdu is the national language of Pakistan and I humbly request all Pakistanis to avoid denigrating it.

The thing is, no-one speaks Urdu really, they speak Hindustani which connects Pakistan to Bharat as opposed to Iran, Tajikstan, Afghanistan. In my opinion it would have been better to be linguistically connected to them as opposed to Bharat.

In addition the Religion of Abraham came to our forefathers in the language of Dari/Persian. Our Muslim history is in the Dari/Persian tongue, our Muslim culture, our science etc etc was in this language. Urdu does not contain half of what Dari/Persian had. Urdu has the translations but a translation is no substitute for the original.
Once upon a time more Persian literature was published in Mughal India than Persia, such was the role of this language...I remember going to visit a Mughal exhibition in the British Library a few years ago and all of the literature there was in Dari/Persian...

But you are right, Urdu is the language now, and we ought to accept this but Pakistan ought to strengthen this tongue...by ensuring that all official letters are in this language, all legal matters are in this language, that scientific terms from English are translated and new Urdu terms created(taking words from the parent languages of Sanskrit and Persian) but do you see any of this..? It seems Pakistan does not care about Urdu... it seems the hearts are dead...

Urdu is a beautiful language, no doubt but Dari is yet sweeter.

 

[El Sidd]

Iran is a worthy master

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Iran is a worthy master

lol and Afghan? they seem to have deep love for Pakistanis epsecially daal khor Punjabi

and dont forget arabs who love us more than anyoen else

 

[Hamza913]

Whats next after language ? food? Change it according to taste of Iranian and arabian

Asalamu Alaikum

No, I'm just saying there's no harm in modifying Urdu so it differs more from Hindi.

Anyway, I would rather we had Baluchi as a national language since some of the first elements of civilisation in the region came from Baluchistan (Mergharh), it's a language native to Pakistan, and it would help empower the Baluchi minority.

I still love Urdu though and I'm fine with it, since it's been the language of Muslims of the region for a long time.

 

[El Sidd]

lol and Afghan? they seem to have deep love for Pakistanis epsecially daal khor Punjabi

and dont forget arabs who love us more than anyoen else

They are all linguistic groups madam.

Urdu should be the most neutral one could Go.

But Pakistanis have a fetish of going back to 47 and start over again based on their political religious inclinations made by Propaganda filled News.

Theres an Idiot flaring up Mullah wars on live Television as some Puppet Show or a cheap Version of Dr Phill.

Provinces threatening to close borders. Veterans going nuts writing books.

Yet here we are.

This is what confusion looks like. All the while government passes laws and Budgets on the last weekend of their terms.

Everyone is cheerleading everyone.

 

[Hamza913]

The thing is, no-one speaks Urdu really, they speak Hindustani which connects Pakistan to Bharat as opposed to Iran, Tajikstan, Afghanistan. In my opinion it would have been better to be linguistically connected to them as opposed to Bharat.

In addition the Religion of Abraham came to our forefathers in the language of Dari/Persian. Our Muslim history is in the Dari/Persian tongue, our Muslim culture, our science etc etc was in this language. Urdu does not contain half of what Dari/Persian had. Urdu has the translations but a translation is no substitute for the original.
Once upon a time more Persian literature was published in Mughal India than Persia, such was the role of this language...I remember going to visit a Mughal exhibition in the British Library a few years ago and all of the literature there was in Dari/Persian...

But you are right, Urdu is the language now, and we ought to accept this but Pakistan ought to strengthen this tongue...by ensuring that all official letters are in this language, all legal matters are in this language, that scientific terms from English are translated and new Urdu terms created(taking words from the parent languages of Sanskrit and Persian) but do you see any of this..? It seems Pakistan does not care about Urdu... it seems the hearts are dead...

Urdu is a beautiful language, no doubt but Dari is yet sweeter.

Asalamu Alaikum

Urdu and Dari are both nice, neither is better than the other.

Walayum As Salam.

It was already quite different than Hindustani/Sanskrit. It is your modern Pakistanis and their bollywood inspired ideals which have brought about the abhorrence in modern day "Urdu". It is the Pakistanis themselves who are too lazy to enunciate the correct and proper alphabets/sounds of the Urdu language. They speak and talk extremely fast without any finesse or dignity whatsoever which makes Urdu sound like a south indian language to a foreigner.

Pakistanis need to change themselves first and foremost.

True, we need to make formal Urdu the only Urdu.