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[Water Car Engineer]

Tata Motors' X451 to take on Hyundai Elite i20 and Maruti Baleno

 

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Tata Hexa- Black & White

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New Mahindra MPV spotted testing near Chennai

Tata Motors wants to be among India's top 3: Mistry

Swaraj Baggonkar | Mumbai Jul 14, 2016 12:48 AM IST

Cyrus Mistry


India’s largest automobile company, Tata Motors, has set its eyes on being among the top three global commercial vehicle makers and reclaiming its number three spot in the country’s car and sports utility vehicle market.
“This will mark a milestone year of growth, great launches and transformation. We will look at bringing in significant launches, with a focus on cost efficiencies,” Mistry said.

Tata Motors’ share in the Indian passenger vehicle market shrank to 4.6 per cent in 2015-16 from 13 per cent in 2011-12, as Maruti Suzuki and Hyundai strengthened their shares through sustained launches.

Guenter Butschek, managing director and chief executive, said: “We are working towards growing not just the top line but the bottom line as well. We aim to be among the top three globally in commercial vehicles and locally in passenger vehicles.” The company is banking on investments lined up for product development and other innovations. The Kite 5 (codename), Nexon and Hexa are being readied for launch even as the recently launched Tiago gathers traction. The company has promised to launch two new models every year till 2020.

“Our plan includes developing new platforms with advanced technologies and improving the performance of existing ones,” Butschek added.

“There is a deep focus on robust processes, cost efficiencies and people management. These initiatives will help us build a leaner, more agile organisation,” he said. The new National Automotive Innovation Centre, coming at the University of Warwick in the UK, will be the largest automotive research centre of its kind in Europe. It is funded by Jaguar Land Rover, Tata Motors, the University of Warwick and the UK government.

This complex is aimed deliver breakthrough technologies in areas of carbon reduction, smart and connected vehicles, and advanced propulsion systems.

Mistry said subsidiary Jaguar Land Rover had produced and sold more cars than any other time in its decades-old history.

Jaguar Land Rover reported sales growth of 13 per cent to 521,571 vehicles last year.

As per data supplied by the Society of Indian Automobile Manufacturers Tata Motors ranks fourth in the passenger vehicle ranking (behind Maruti, Hyundai and Mahindra respectively) by end of last month. Its ranking has improved by one position as last year at the end of same month Tata Motors stood fifth.
"For the group, 2015-16 was a turnaround year, backed by strong Jaguar Land Rover growth, as well as the start of the turnaround for Tata Motors,” Mistry added.

 

[itachii]

Tata Hexa- Black & White

360 degree view

New Mahindra MPV spotted testing near Chennai

Tata Motors wants to be among India's top 3: Mistry

Swaraj Baggonkar | Mumbai Jul 14, 2016 12:48 AM IST

Cyrus Mistry


India’s largest automobile company, Tata Motors, has set its eyes on being among the top three global commercial vehicle makers and reclaiming its number three spot in the country’s car and sports utility vehicle market.
“This will mark a milestone year of growth, great launches and transformation. We will look at bringing in significant launches, with a focus on cost efficiencies,” Mistry said.

Tata Motors’ share in the Indian passenger vehicle market shrank to 4.6 per cent in 2015-16 from 13 per cent in 2011-12, as Maruti Suzuki and Hyundai strengthened their shares through sustained launches.

Guenter Butschek, managing director and chief executive, said: “We are working towards growing not just the top line but the bottom line as well. We aim to be among the top three globally in commercial vehicles and locally in passenger vehicles.” The company is banking on investments lined up for product development and other innovations. The Kite 5 (codename), Nexon and Hexa are being readied for launch even as the recently launched Tiago gathers traction. The company has promised to launch two new models every year till 2020.

“Our plan includes developing new platforms with advanced technologies and improving the performance of existing ones,” Butschek added.

“There is a deep focus on robust processes, cost efficiencies and people management. These initiatives will help us build a leaner, more agile organisation,” he said. The new National Automotive Innovation Centre, coming at the University of Warwick in the UK, will be the largest automotive research centre of its kind in Europe. It is funded by Jaguar Land Rover, Tata Motors, the University of Warwick and the UK government.

This complex is aimed deliver breakthrough technologies in areas of carbon reduction, smart and connected vehicles, and advanced propulsion systems.

Mistry said subsidiary Jaguar Land Rover had produced and sold more cars than any other time in its decades-old history.

Jaguar Land Rover reported sales growth of 13 per cent to 521,571 vehicles last year.

As per data supplied by the Society of Indian Automobile Manufacturers Tata Motors ranks fourth in the passenger vehicle ranking (behind Maruti, Hyundai and Mahindra respectively) by end of last month. Its ranking has improved by one position as last year at the end of same month Tata Motors stood fifth.
"For the group, 2015-16 was a turnaround year, backed by strong Jaguar Land Rover growth, as well as the start of the turnaround for Tata Motors,” Mistry added.

thank god TATA's and Mahindra are making a come back. we shed too much market share to foreign companies.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

These guys are making everything but a mid-sized sedans.

 

[itachii]

Aether S340 - India's first smart bike from bangalore based startup.

http://tech.firstpost.com/news-anal...first-smart-scooter-at-surge-2016-300965.html

 

[gslv mk3]

These guys are making everything but a mid-sized sedans.

The X451 might have a sedan variant, right ?

Tata Marcopolo Paradise tri-axle coach (14.7m long) might be launched soon.

Article from 2015
http://www.overdrive.in/news/tata-a...n-market-for-four-axle-double-decker-coaches/
Tata and Marcopolo study the Indian market for four-axle double-decker coaches

Having recognised the growing popularity of such long routes, Tata Motors is examining the feasibility of introducing a double-decker touring coach, based on the latest Generation 7 of Marcopolo's Paradiso 1800 DD model. Brazilian bus builder, Marcopolo has been Tata Motors' primary bodywork partner for the Indian market for the last eight years.

Four-axle coaches are common in South America for extremely long routes that can sometimes stretch over 4,500km and three days on the road. Auto Viação 1001, the first operator in Brazil to schedule double-decker buses on regular lines, runs a Double Class service with six anatomically shaped sleeper seats on the lower deck that recline horizontally into bunks, and 40 semi-sleeper seats on the upper deck.

In Brazil, the three-axle Paradiso 1800 DD is offered with up to 60 semi-sleep seats in single-class configuration. Here in India, because of the restrictive axle weight limitations, an 8-2 wheelplan is more feasible, Rohit Srivastava, CEO of Tata Marcopolo Motors Limited (TMML), tells OVERDRIVE.

Tata Motors already possesses the engineering and manufacturing capability to design and build a four-axle coach chassis, Srivastava points out — the company has been producing 8-2 trucks for atleast a decade. Marcopolo, for its part, brings in years of experience in bodyworking chassis' from Scania, Volvo, and Mercedes in Brazil.

Development of the double-deck coach for the operating conditions peculiar to India will involve a three-way engineering collaboration between Marcopolo, Tata Motors, and TMML. TMML prides itself on its independent design, analysis, and test capabilities. Srivastava says, "All projects at TMML are collaborative, involving the engineering departments of both Tata Motors and Marcopolo in the product design."

An unequalled collaboration

A symbol of the unique collaborative approach is the 14.7m Paradiso 1200 three-axle high-decker, which will be the longest premium coach on the Indian market when it is launched, presumably in the last quarter of 2015. (The Paradiso 1200 6-2 is built to a standard length of 14m in Brazil, while the version showcased at the Auto Expo in New Delhi in 2012 measured 13.8m.)

Not only was the new, longer bodyshell the result of a joint approach; even the LPO 2138 RE 6-2 chassis, according to a TMML source, was designed from scratch with inputs from Marcopolo. The coach has been in development for about three years now. Its three prototypes, built at TMML's Lucknow factory, have each covered more than 1,00,000km in testing.

A two-axle version of the Paradiso 1200 is also in the works and it's likely to be based on the underpinnings of the Divo, a stubbornly unsuccessful model that it is evidently intended to replace. The Divo is an integral coach built by Automobile Corporation of Goa Ltd (ACGL), Tata's other major bodybuilder affiliate.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

The X451 might have a sedan variant, right ?

Actually, TATA does have a full fledged sedan in the works, it's just couple of years away. Considering the design of their recent models, it should look pretty good.

Mahindra has no plans, at least havent state as such.

 

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Actually, TATA does have a full fledged sedan in the works, it's just couple of years away. Considering the design of their recent models, it should look pretty good.

Mahindra has no plans, at least havent state as such.

They had plans for a large sedan as back as 2000. Tata Magna was as large as Mercedes E220, powered by a 2 liter engine & would've been a Lancer rival. It was to be launched by 2002. But unfortunately it was never launched.

Remember Tata Prima concept designed by Pininfarina ?

BTW, talking about Pininfarina...

Pininfarina to develop new product under own brand under Mahindra

Pininfarina designs Formula E race car concepts for Mahindra

Mahindra boss hints at upcoming Pininfarina electric supercar

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Pininfarina to develop new product under own brand under Mahindra

Pininfarina designs Formula E race car concepts for Mahindra

Mahindra boss hints at upcoming Pininfarina electric supercar

Pretty interesting bro. So Mahindra is pushing Pininfarina to not be merely a design house, but a on the road brand.

Their electric concept super car is okay.

 

[gslv mk3]

This guy Will Shiers is a jury member of the International Truck of the Year award, and a Briton.

 

[takeiteasy]

Tata Marcopolo

Tata from their Globus to Marcopolo collaboration made pathetic buses IMO. KSRTC is a prime example. When it comes to a balance of reliability and cheap operational costs, it should be Hinduja Ashok Leyland without doubt. Afterall, this is a successor of legendary British Leyland/Leyland Motors with the same Leyland 0.680/370 and other engines modernized with the help of HINO. Lesser vibrations and rattles and longer life - Leyland. Tata is for super pulling power, cheap spare parts and scraping after few years of use. This model works well in North India. But, the vibrations and break downs are far too high. Volvo-Eicher is a good competitor in HCV especially Buses for Leyland. Tata is a legendary name, but unfortunately their motor vehicles are less reliable; I don't know whether it changed in recent times, but the history says it all.
http://www.business-standard.com/ar...adies-self-for-the-future-114121100024_1.html

 

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Tata from their Globus to Marcopolo collaboration made pathetic buses IMO. KSRTC is a prime example.

As a southie & Malayali, I am a fan of Ashok Leyland too. But the example you quoted isn't accurate.

There are two Globus models- the first one was a rear engine one based on Hispano Divo model. It was AGCL built ( hence typical shoddy built quality) & was underpowered when compared with B7R, but comparable with Isuzu.

The globus bought by KSRTC was again an AGCL built body on a 1616 chassis. It had engine driven AC and struggled on the ghat sections. AFAIK, they don't even make that chassis anymore. They're only making 1618 today.

Marcopolo wasn't involved in both of them. Actually Tata Marcopolos have better build quality- there mini/midi/city buses look quite good. I am looking forward to their paradiso model.

Anyway for AshLey fans, here are some pics of Ashok Leyland buses in service in foreign shores

Ashok Leyland Falcon in the Middle East

This one is Ashok Leyland Oyster

Ashok Leyland Eagle 814 in Chile & Peru

This rear engine low entry bus is for some African country

 

[Nilgiri]

I don't know whether it changed in recent times, but the history says it all.

Its changed a lot in recent years ( ! would say in last 1 - 2 decades especially).

Of course much older vehicles are going to be suffering. When I went to Ghana some years back they were running old Renault Sherpas that had seen much better days. Was I going to fault Renault for it? No....

 

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There seem to be an upward tendency in case of power of bus Chassis. For intercity sleeper/,semi-sleeper buses, many operators chose Ashok Leyland 12M Front Engine/Rear engine chassis with 225 HP CRS Engine.

Ashok Leyland 12M Front Engine, with Automated Manual Transmission

Ashok Leyland 12M Rear Engine

This AGCL built monstrosity on Tata 1618c SLF chassis is destined for KS(U)RTC, for cities not included in JNNURM scheme @takeiteasy

Its changed a lot in recent years ( ! would say in last 1 - 2 decades especially).

Of course much older vehicles are going to be suffering. When I went to Ghana some years back they were running old Renault Sherpas that had seen much better days. Was I going to fault Renault for it? No....

The world truck (Prima) & Ultra series are quite good, comparable to the best available anywhere.

Tata Prima & Tata Ultra in Johannesburg Auto Show, 2013

 

[Nilgiri]

There seems to be an upward tendency in case of power of bus Chassis. For intercity sleeper buses, many operators chose Ashok Leyland 12M Front Engine/Rear engine chassis with 225 HP CRS Engine.

Ashok Leyland 12M Front Engine, with Automated Manual Transmission

12M Rear Engine

This AGCL built monstrosity on Tata 1618c SLF chassis is destined for KS(U)RTC, for cities not included in JNNURM scheme @takeiteasy

The world truck (Prima) & Ultra series are quite good, comparable to the best available anywhere.

Tata Prima & Tata Ultra in Johannesburg Auto Show, 2013

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Oh I know this quite well. I remember taking on @somebozo about it quite a few times