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Lt General Shahid Aziz ex DG ISI interview about 9/11 attacks and War On Terror.

But it is true that the US encouraged and supported military rule in Pakistan.

That's not true, US have always slammed sanctions on Pakistan when army man lead Pakistan.
Infect, US has bee behind all conspiracies launched against army general rule.

US launched democracy campaign against Ayub.
US killed Zia ul Haq.
US and UK both sanctioned Pakistan, when Musharraf took over.

Gen Aziz was spot on when he said US will not leave Afghanistan.
 
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So you guys agree with his theory that all military dictators of Pakistan were freemason agents out to destroy the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
Proof that despite the battery of psychological tests, education, including in US military academies institutions can still promote idiots to the top. I only listened upto the point where he says "Gen. Musharaf's governemt made what were heroes into ememies in 2001 at the behest of USA. I would love to ask this guy "who helped in foisting that b*astard on top of the Pakistani nation"? Answer: Lt General Shahid Aziz

"That same year, he was appointed to the role of Director General Military Operations where he played a crucial role in the coup that brought Pervez Musharraf to power."

I will listen to rest of the videos later but I suspect they are gonna contain lot of contradictory nuggets.
 
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I like his roaring voice and styles. :D

on topic . The US prefers military rule in Pakistan COZ its easy to get work done in one man show.

There should be a house of think tanks to navigate civilian government from economic affairs to foreign policy.
 
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Proof that despite the battery of psychological tests, education, including in US military academies institutions can still promote idiots to the top. I only listened upto the point where he says "Gen. Musharaf's governemt made what were heroes into ememies in 2001 at the behest of USA. I would love to ask this guy "who helped in foisting that b*astard on top of the Pakistani nation"? Answer: Lt General Shahid Aziz

"That same year, he was appointed to the role of Director General Military Operations where he played a crucial role in the coup that brought Pervez Musharraf to power."

I will listen to rest of the videos later but I suspect they are gonna contain lot of contradictory nuggets.

It is a common practice in the US Military Schools, that influential officers from different countries with links to freemasonry do hunt for officers from the Muslim countries, promising the membership of masonry, glorious ranks and benefits. It may be a conspiracy theory to you but till the 90s, Army had many senior officers who were reporting to the masonry lodges in foreign countries or had good relations with the elite. The biggest mistake we ever made was to send young officers from the Military Academy to US and UK. Youth can be easily lured into luxury and it's all about money for the masons or bankers. I've read the book of Shahid Aziz and he's one of the biggest munafiq. He totally enjoyed his tenure under Musharraf and once he got retired, Ummah yad agayi janab ko. Didn't he knew that Mushi had great relations with the elite bankers and he was a friend to the Jewish Loby in American Congress? Didn't he know that Mushi tried to establish ties with Mossad ignoring the concern of Core Comds. Couldn't he resign at that time and let the world know.
 
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It is a common practice in the US Military Schools, that influential officers from different countries with links to freemasonry do hunt for officers from the Muslim countries, promising the membership of masonry, glorious ranks and benefits. It may be a conspiracy theory to you but till the 90s, Army had many senior officers who were reporting to the masonry lodges in foreign countries or had good relations with the elite. The biggest mistake we ever made was to send young officers from the Military Academy to US and UK. Youth can be easily lured into luxury and it's all about money for the masons or bankers. I've read the book of Shahid Aziz and he's one of the biggest munafiq. He totally enjoyed his tenure under Musharraf and once he got retired, Ummah yad agayi janab ko. Didn't he knew that Mushi had great relations with the elite bankers and he was a friend to the Jewish Loby in American Congress? Didn't he know that Mushi tried to establish ties with Mossad ignoring the concern of Core Comds. Couldn't he resign at that time and let the world know.
Well, I don't subsribe to that because if it true then Pakistan is already owned by them. I mean every single Pakistan leader and even most of the senior offficials are either products of western universities [read Oxford, Cambridge, Harward etc], have been to western academies [Sandhurst, West Point etc] therefore there is no point even discussing the matter. We already been had. This includes Imran Khan and every leaders of seniors i all political parties.

And so was Jinnah.
 
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Well, I don't subsribe to that because if it true then Pakistan is already owned by them. I mean every single Pakistan leader and even most of the senior offficials are either products of western universities [read Oxford, Cambridge, Harward etc], have been to western academies [Sandhurst, West Point etc] therefore there is no point even discussing the matter. We already been had. This includes Imran Khan and every leaders of seniors i all political parties.

And so was Jinnah.

Jinnah was part of Congress and a friend to the masons, is there any doubt in that? Later he made his own way, wasn't he the one to advocate United Bharat before working for the creation of Pakistan? loyalties change.
 
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Conspiracy theories and theorists are always a fringe element in most countries, but not in Pakistan. I wonder why?

@Indus Pakistan
 
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I may not agree with the language or the way its presented.

But it is true that the US encouraged and supported military rule in Pakistan.


Given that the military is the only functioning institution remaining in the country, and is able to act in an extra-Constitutional manner whenever it chooses, it would be logical for any foreign power to consider it an effective partner in furthering national interests according to tenets of international geopolitics. This should be no surprise at all.
 
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in all the history of this forum, discussion in each and every thread is derailed by the official mafia.
Look at the OP and look at the two tribals, taking the discussion to where they wanted it to be.
Pathetic bunch. :hitwall:
 
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WTF did i just read :o

Complete "Jinnah was part of Congress and a friend to the masons, is there any doubt in that? Later he made his own way, wasn't he the one to advocate United Bharat before working for the creation of Pakistan?"
 
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every word he said then, is true to this day as well.

@Horus @Irfan Baloch u much watch it to refresh yr memory.

Hi,

This officer was a bull-shitter and a con artist---.

What did he do to stop a christian army from invading a muslim country----nothing / zilch / nada---.

He talks about Mullah Omar wanting proof---. Who gives a F--- about proof about a known non afghan who has been previously involved in terrorist act---.

Mullah Omar was dumb as molasses when it came to the integrity of the Islamic state---.

Sudan---were they any less muslims---they kicked him out---get lost---.

Gern Aziz should have gone in and executed OBL---would have saved 2 million afghans from dying and millions more from being homeless---.

And possibly a lesser opportunity for the US to attack Iraq---.

Please---don't cherish these people---they are the true enemies of Islam.
 
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