love jihad in india - reality exposed by operation juliet

[Baby-5]

It's is not complete by just the marrying off of the sisters.

The sisters must first convert out of Islam.

Dont rush, climb one step a time.

 

[Maarkhoor]

The sisters must first convert out of Islam.

For example Ratti Bai converted to Islaam to marry Mr. Jinnah.

 

[vsdoc]

Dont rush, climb one step a time.

My climbing days are done bro.

Am thinking of my nation.

And it's youth.

 

[Baby-5]

My climbing days are done

then why you have avatar of a handsome man???

Am thinking of my nation.

And it's youth.

Too much individualism causes dis-organization of society, Unfortunately our youth is not much interested in "their country", "their society", "their family" rather on "their life", "their love", "their this" and "their that".

 

[Winchester]

There word "Love Jihad" is/was a reality........ It was a covert operation...... and it is been opposed covertly......

@waz @Horus

Since this is an international forum of sorts so I understand the need for tolerating the hinduvate brigade who makeup about 95% of the Bharati posters here

But seriously can you guys atleast check out who you are allocating these TTA slots to???

Here we have a Pakistan defence TTA who believes there is some conspiracy going on within the muslim community in India to seduce hindu women

Can anyone get more cuckoo than that???

 

[jamahir]

To maintain the social fabrics of India, and to prove that Muslims are liberals too (Like Jamahir Bhai and other Hindus are), Muslims should marry their sisters to Hindus. Jamahir is also in favor of " these natural romances between Hindu men and Muslim women and vice-verca ". Right @jamahir bhai??

i have no problems with that... i would be violating the muslim lady's human right if i were to stop her from marrying her choice of mate, whether he is muslim or hindu or another.

muslim/hindu marriages were not so uncommon in previous decades but indian urban landscape has become more reactionary since 1989 and that is why we haven't been able to further the good things achieved and promoted by the progressives in the previous decades.

I do not support Inter faith marriages for the following reasons

1) Lack of Uniform Civil code in India
2) Apostasy in Islam
3) Reservation System in India

1. a ucc should have long been established, given such such a diverse and largely oppressive-cultured society like india... nevertheless, ucc will go far in removing the reactionary and frivolous elements in the traditions of every community... the ucc must be designed by progressives/socialists and in fact can be benefited if it studies the true islami social/economic system, after all, current the indian "civil law" marriage system derives indirectly from islami law ( regardless of how so many indian muslims in last 15 years have been violating their own progressive laws )... but ucc can only be a temporary immediate solution until india gets a socialist system.

2. how does that apply here??

3. how does that apply here??

I cannot enter into this debate, but I have some suggestion. Wherever there is a marriage, there is also tussle and tension after sometime, whether it is religious, inter-religious, international, national.

generally, such tussles and tensions are not so much from the couple but from their parents, relatives and society elements.

So when that happens naturally divorce follows and then property partition, children partition etc. etc.

right.

Now my point is that if that happens, can it be solved using "Uniform Civil Code"? At least all must support uniform civil code for these type of marriage!!

right, though ucc will be a general law, applying to all social/economic situations, not only within inter-caste/inter-religion family structures but also within a single-religion family.

I hope I didn't hurt anyone!!

no, you made fair points above.

And the divorced persons be known again by their parent religions or what

in india, parents have played a largely corrosive and divisive role, not only for marriage situations but for all other aspects of life ( suicide of students, for example ), and it is best for them to let their children make their own decisions if those decisions are progressive and sensible and universal.

And about children?

that is a complicated question, thought until now, it has been the decision of the parents to name the children ( sanjay dutt, abram khan etc ) and for the children to find their own path.

the idea must be, in a religion/tradition bound country like india, to go away from religion to the possible extent.

The sisters must first convert out of Islam.

to what end??

in fact, the idea here should be lessening of religious tendencies through such marriages and not increasing of them by bringing another complication.

Too much individualism causes dis-organization of society, Unfortunately our youth is not much interested in "their country", "their society", "their family" rather on "their life", "their love", "their this" and "their that".

no, most of our youth is too much concerned with nationalism ( fake-patriotism ), college degrees, wage-slavery, religion, reactionary thinking, alcohol, kirket, rude behavior, gang behavior, frivolous life etc.

che guevara is not the ideal of most now, unlike in previous decades.

 

[haviZsultan]

Love Jihad is a clear way to avoid the real problems. The problem of muslims in Indian occupied parts being treated as second class.

i have no problems with that... i would be violating the muslim lady's human right if i were to stop her from marrying her choice of mate, whether he is muslim or hindu or another.

muslim/hindu marriages were not so uncommon in previous decades but indian urban landscape has become more reactionary since 1989 and that is why we haven't been able to further the good things achieved and promoted by the progressives in the previous decades.



1. a ucc should have long been established, given such such a diverse and largely oppressive-cultured society like india... nevertheless, ucc will go far in removing the reactionary and frivolous elements in the traditions of every community... the ucc must be designed by progressives/socialists and in fact can be benefited if it studies the true islami social/economic system, after all, current the indian "civil law" marriage system derives indirectly from islami law ( regardless of how so many indian muslims in last 15 years have been violating their own progressive laws )... but ucc can only be a temporary immediate solution until india gets a socialist system.

2. how does that apply here??

3. how does that apply here??



generally, such tussles and tensions are not so much from the couple but from their parents, relatives and society elements.



right.



right, though ucc will be a general law, applying to all social/economic situations, not only within inter-caste/inter-religion family structures but also within a single-religion family.



no, you made fair points above.



in india, parents have played a largely corrosive and divisive role, not only for marriage situations but for all other aspects of life ( suicide of students, for example ), and it is best for them to let their children make their own decisions if those decisions are progressive and sensible and universal.



that is a complicated question, thought until now, it has been the decision of the parents to name the children ( sanjay dutt, abram khan etc ) and for the children to find their own path.

the idea must be, in a religion/tradition bound country like india, to go away from religion to the possible extent.



to what end??

in fact, the idea here should be lessening of religious tendencies through such marriages and not increasing of them by bringing another complication.



no, most of our youth is too much concerned with nationalism ( fake-patriotism ), college degrees, wage-slavery, religion, reactionary thinking, alcohol, kirket, rude behavior, gang behavior, frivolous life etc.

che guevara is not the ideal of most now, unlike in previous decades.

I strongly believe in inter ethnic and inter religious marriages as a way to eliminate religious, sectarian and ethnic differences. Such marriages create better understanding and are examples of extreme love though the children often grow up confused.

 

[jamahir]

@waz @Horus

Since this is an international forum of sorts so I understand the need for tolerating the hinduvate brigade who makeup about 95% of the Bharati posters here

But seriously can you guys atleast check out who you are allocating these TTA slots to???

Here we have a Pakistan defence TTA who believes there is some conspiracy going on within the muslim community in India to seduce hindu women

Can anyone get more cuckoo than that???

and he and sarthak are not willing to disclose the "love jihad" cases ( with names ) that they supposedly know... if one questions them, what will be found again and again will be their opposition to consensual natural romance between hindu and muslim couple.

these two members only use the excuse of "love jihad" to cover their bigotry.

I strongly believe in inter ethnic and inter religious marriages as a way to eliminate religious, sectarian and ethnic differences. Such marriages create better understanding and are examples of extreme love

indeed.

though the children often grow up confused.

not so much really... prominent examples like sanjay dutt describe such people having similar life to single-religion environment... in fact, from what you yourself wrote first, such children are more mature than others.

 

[Baby-5]

i have no problems with that... i would be violating the muslim lady's human right if i were to stop her from marrying her choice of mate, whether he is muslim or hindu or another.

muslim/hindu marriages were not so uncommon in previous decades but indian urban landscape has become more reactionary since 1989 and that is why we haven't been able to further the good things achieved and promoted by the progressives in the previous decades.

You should have raised voices for them(real Kashmiris) like how you guys raise voices for Palestines. By the way this alienation is way older than you can think. any guess???

An excerpt from "Al-Beruni's India" translation

"An example of Al-Biruni’s analysis is his summary of why many Hindus hate Muslims. He explains that Hinduism and Islam are totally different from each other. Moreover, Hindus in 11th century India had suffered through waves of destructive attacks on many of its cities, and Islamic armies had taken numerous Hindu slaves to Persia which, claimed Al-Biruni, contributed to Hindus becoming suspicious of all foreigners, not just Muslims. Hindus considered Muslims violent and impure, and did not want to share anything with him."

Al-Biruni - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

no, most of our youth is too much concerned with nationalism ( fake-patriotism ),

Few abusing fake avatars of PDF do not represent whole Indian society. Nor your liberal Muslim views represent the whole Muslims of subcontinent.

college degrees, wage-slavery, religion, reactionary thinking, alcohol, kirket, rude behavior, gang behavior, frivolous life etc

Agree

For example Ratti Bai converted to Islaam to marry Mr. Jinnah.

Thats nothing in front of Aurangzeb the tyrant who forcefully converted millions of Hindus and Sikhs.

 

[vsdoc]

then why you have avatar of a handsome man???

My eldest.

 

[Baby-5]

My eldest.

Doc, dont under-estimate yourself, you are still in the fight

 

[vsdoc]

Doc, dont under-estimate yourself, you are still in the fight

The fight you are talking about is small shit compared to the one that will come to me afterwards.

Though yes, when we trek together, many young ladies are surprised when he informs them (rather sadistically) that I'm his dad.

 

[Baby-5]

Though yes, when we trek together, many young ladies are surprised when he informs them (rather sadistically) that I'm his dad.

Dont let your moral down.

The fight you are talking about is small shit compared to the one that will come to me afterwards.

Soldiers just fight, they never think about other affecting factors.

 

[nair]

You practically called me called me as part of hindutva brigade.... Lol....

@waz @Horus

Since this is an international forum of sorts so I understand the need for tolerating the hinduvate brigade who makeup about 95% of the Bharati posters here

But seriously can you guys atleast check out who you are allocating these TTA slots to???

Here we have a Pakistan defence TTA who believes there is some conspiracy going on within the muslim community in India to seduce hindu women

Can anyone get more cuckoo than that???

 

[vsdoc]

You practically called me called me as part of hindutva brigade.... Lol....

There was nothing practical in it.

He did.

Why are you not celebrating?