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Place your bets gentlemen.....where do you think these "lost" weapons have/will end up and who will they be used against?

Lost in Afghanistan: US can't track weapons it sends

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon has shipped Afghan security forces tens of thousands of excessive AK-47 assault rifles and other weapons since 2004 and many have gone missing, raising concerns that they've fallen into the hands of Taliban or other insurgents.

John F. Sipko, the U.S. special inspector general for Afghanistan reconstruction, found in a report released Monday that shoddy record-keeping by the Defense Department, the Afghan National Army and the Afghan National Police has contributed to the failure to track the small arms.

The Pentagon is still sending Afghanistan weapons based on its peak 2012 levels of army and police personnel, even as those numbers have declined, Sipko found.


"The scheduled reduction in Afghan National Security Force personnel to 228,500 by 2017 is likely to result in an even greater number of excess weapons," the report said. "Yet DOD continues to provide ANSF with weapons based on the (2012) ANSF force strength of 352,000 and has no plans to stop providing weapons to ANSF."

Congress has made the Pentagon responsible for tracking all U.S. small weapons and auxiliary equipment sent to Afghanistan, which have totaled 747,000 rifles, pistols, machine guns, grenade launchers and shotguns worth $626 million since 2004.

"However, controls over the accountability of small arms provided to the Afghanistan National Security Forces are insufficient both before and after the weapons are transferred," Sipko concluded in the report.

The Pentagon said in response to the audit that it has no authority to compel the Afghan government to perform a complete small-weapons inventory as Sipko recommended, and that the Afghanistan government, not the United States, is responsible for determining whether there are excessive weapons.

"The DOD does not have the authority to recover or destroy Afghan weapons," Michael J.Dumont, deputy assistant secretary of defense for Afghanistan, Pakistan and Central Asia, wrote to Sipko in response to his findings.

Thomas Gouttierre, director of the Center for Afghanistan Studies at the University of Nebraska in Omaha, said he wasn't surprised by Sipko's findings of loose weapons in the war-torn nation. A former strategic adviser to U.S. commanders in Afghanistan, he has visited there more than a dozen times since the U.S. invasion in October 2001 after the Sept. 11 attacks.

Gouttierre said the issue of missing weapons is part of a larger problem in which billions of dollars in U.S. aid to Afghanistan has been siphoned off by waste, corruption and mismanagement.

"It's very evident to me that our government has been looking the other way for a long time," Gouttierre said. "Everything after 2003 was Iraq-focused. In Afghanistan, we kind of threw money at programs without any real supervision that would be required of something this massive."

The current U.S. drawdown from Afghanistan will see most American troops gone this year, with the last combat brigades scheduled to leave by the end of 2016. Inspectors working for Sipko found missing weapons during visits between May 2013 and June 2014 to four central weapons depots in Afghanistan belonging to the army or the police.

During a visit to the central supply depot of the Afghan National Army, which is "managed by Afghans with the assistance of U.S. advisers," the depot's records showed it as possessing 939 M-16 rifles, but the inspectors could find only 199. :hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:

The Pentagon has supplied 83,184 more AK-47s to Afghan security forces than they have said are needed, the U.S. inspectors found.

"Without confidence in the Afghan government's ability to account for or properly dispose of these weapons, SIGAR is concerned that they could be obtained by insurgents and pose additional risks to Afghan civilians and the Afghan National Security Forces," the report said.

A primary cause of the overall problem is that the Defense Department uses one information system to record weapons sent from the United States but employs a separate digital system to track weapons as they arrive in Afghanistan.

The two systems are riddled with inconsistencies and redundancies, the audit found.

To make matters worse, the Afghan National Army uses yet another tracking system, which relies on automated inventory management, and the Afghan National Police has no standard accounting system.

"The Afghan National Police uses a combination of hard-copy documents, handwritten records and some Microsoft Excel spreadsheets to maintain inventory records," Sipko's report said.


@Aeronaut @RescueRanger @AgNoStiC MuSliM @Xeric @Armstrong @Windjammer @CENTCOM @Stealth
 
Wow! And this is going on virtually under the nose of US. Can you imagine the situation afterwards?

we knew it all along anyways.....we will be left to deal with the shards of glass, stepping on them with bare feet

so when they claim we "meddle" in Afghanistan (i emphasize the quotation mark) my answer will always be

"GOOD!!!"
 
we knew it all along anyways.....we will be left to deal with the shards of glass, stepping on them with bare feet

so when they claim we "meddle" in Afghanistan (i emphasize the quotation mark) my answer will always be

"GOOD!!!"

Sirjee, it's mind-blowing to see certain narratives being built around the situation in Afghanistan and that have already been in vogue. The propaganda onslaught is just mind-boggling. I've noticed many things about this biased narrative.

1. Pakistan's role in the war against the soviets is completely sidelined. A war in which Pakistani intelligence operatives/commandos/officers were ON THE GROUND. You can catch a glimpse of it in the book by Aukai Collins. That's just one example

2. Pakistan's role in the post-soviet era is EXAGGERATED. Just an example, we are being told that Pakistan 'created' the Taliban. From where? Out of thin air? Yes, this is what the detractors and the liers would have you believe. You see where the liers are going with this?;):coffee: . As if all those Mujahideen of the 70's and 80's just went home and evil nasty Pakistan ,using the 'newly created' Taliban out of thin air, is abusing it's neighbourly status for strategic goals. Haqqanis for example have been active since the 70's and 80's and it's precisely Mujahideen like this who became the Taliban FOR THE MOST PART. The infusion of fresh blood doesn't change the ground realities or does it? Granted,Pakistan backed one section of the erst-while Mujahideen from 90's onwards but why are we getting the sole blame?:crazy: Also just like I mentioned in point 1, we backed all sides of the Mujahideen in the 70's, 80's including Ahmed Shah Massoud. Our intelligence trained people without inhibitions etc. But they forget to mention that part.:coffee:

So the liers have already framed the issue in terms that , if we act, we're villains. If we don't act, we're still villains. Moreover, to be frank , I think that the media in Pakistan has been a total let-down when it comes to combating this kind of biased, nefarious anti-Pakistani propaganda
 
the Afghan taleban which as a government was known officially as the "Islamic Emirate" is a purely Afghan phenomenon. We diplomatically recognized them, the way a very small handful of countries did.

The bullshit coming from western or indian circles about "creating" taleban are based not on reality but just on pure delusions and lies.

It is true that the Pakistani intelligence had dealings with freedom fighters/mujahideen who fought against soviets....Hekmatyar, Omar, Shah Massoud. We provided lines of communication to them during the onset and peak of the war (years after the soviets invaded).

as for our media - its kind of like our leaders and a certain segment of our society.....sold to the highest bidder
 
They most likely will be used against us. If Afghanis are reporting those weapons to have gone 'missing', its a red flag to indicate that they might be re-arming Uzbeks to attack Pakistan.
 
Place your bets gentlemen.....where do you think these "lost" weapons have/will end up and who will they be used against?

Lost in Afghanistan: US can't track weapons it sends




@Aeronaut @RescueRanger @AgNoStiC MuSliM @Xeric @Armstrong @Windjammer @CENTCOM @Stealth
Bhai sb, this should not come as a surprise, i have been saying this for a while and many others, Afghan Security forces have been selling their gear to taliban and in Pakistani market..... I can share a photo of DMD shoes made by Arrow for ANSF in pindi market..... ANSF is clearly endorsed on the shoes, and not only shoes but Racksack,.......
Coming to the weapons then official side of ANSF is S&W mp9 9mm pistol which is found in abundance in Peshawar market and so does m16 & m4( they are a bit hard to get).....
The biggest enemy of Nato forces is the ANSF itself
 
They most likely will be used against us. If Afghanis are reporting those weapons to have gone 'missing', its a red flag to indicate that they might be re-arming Uzbeks to attack Pakistan.

and when that's not happening they are desserting their posts and selling their weapons to TTP or other anti-Pakistan elements in their country

sooner or later we'll be forced to take the gloves off....so far all govt. been doing is spectating lamely

Bhai sb, this should not come as a surprise, i have been saying this for a while and many others, Afghan Security forces have been selling their gear to taliban and in Pakistani market..... I can share a photo of DMD shoes made by Arrow for ANSF in pindi market..... ANSF is clearly endorsed on the shoes, and not only shoes but Racksack,.......
Coming to the weapons then official side of ANSF is S&W mp9 9mm pistol which is found in abundance in Peshawar market and so does m16 & m4( they are a bit hard to get).....
The biggest enemy of Nato forces is the ANSF itself

there you go...

you posted before i could, beat me to it
 
They most likely will be used against us. If Afghanis are reporting those weapons to have gone 'missing', its a red flag to indicate that they might be re-arming Uzbeks to attack Pakistan.

BLA/BRA. Those truck load of shiny weapons FC caught couple months back
 
Balochis. Those truck load of shiny weapons FC caught couple months back

BLA/BRA types - who embarrass the name and honour of those who call themself as "Baloch"
 
How can't the USA keep track of its weapons in AFG?
 
How can't the USA keep track of its weapons in AFG?
They will track if those were m4s-
Cheap ak-47 who cares-
 
Place your bets gentlemen.....where do you think these "lost" weapons have/will end up and who will they be used against?

Most likely go to Taliban and extremists causing infighting. After infighting strongest terrorist group will head into Pakistan and Iran and from northern Pakistan to the Jammu Kashmir territories.
 
Most likely go to Taliban and extremists causing infighting. After infighting strongest terrorist group will head into Pakistan and Iran and from northern Pakistan to the Jammu Kashmir territories.

We have a contingency for that, Afghanistan doesn't.
 
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