Long delays, hiked price, cancelled flights: How Pakistan airspace closure has disrupted air travel

[Crystal-Clear]

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These SAM was nowhere when our jets roamed inside Pak airspace

so do your aad pad akash s-300 spyder greenpine etc and we reach you "military installations" not any random building on a hill but multiple military installation (a phucking brigade hq ) the only thing your incompetent military shot down is your own heli . (rip one innocent soul died due to crash).
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you people introduced a new incompetency level .
incompetent level = indian military.

 

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[Ali_Baba]

The cost to Pakistan for maintaining its airspace closure is minimal. So, best to leave it closed permanently. A reminder to India of the stupidity of her actions and the consequences of it.

 

[maximuswarrior]

meanwhile in India .

Meanwhile in India:

 

[PakSword]

real issue is Pakistan will not let the security to go . our SAMs are ready since 27 but no one come to avenge abhinandan. now even Indians admitting they have not take it light after 26 attack . we are fully ready batteries are active missiles are one touch away to be fired now . this is best thing paksitan did in last 20 years .

Maza uss uaqt aaega jab Pakistan sirf Indian carriers ke liey route close karega, baqi sab ke liey khol dega... Then I will be like

 

[Imran Khan]

Maza uss uaqt aaega jab Pakistan sirf Indian carriers ke liey route close karega, baqi sab ke liey khol dega... Then I will be like

not good idea . hum mar bhi rahy hain or rony bhi nhi de rahy india ko

 

[airmarshal]

After elections, Pakistan should open air space to all airlines except India origin airlines. This way only India will suffer. After all, it should pay the price for slandering Pakistan on terrorism, exporting terrorism to Pakistan and then acting in aggression on flimsy and fake charge for which it had no evidence.

 

[Lincoln]

Troll as much you want .
Nightmare of Feb 26 is still didnt get over for some people in Pakistan .
That is why still airspace is closed .

That too even after around 2 months .
Pathetic .
But we dont even have an alert in our airspace .
And that is the confidence level



Then prove it .man.
Release the pictures of Saab Awacs .
Show the proof ,if you have any.
It wasnt the petty PR attempt of ISPR ,it was the unnecessary play of FP magazine that forced us to release radar pictures.

I wrote all that just to show that shots in a single time frame of radar images do not prove anything, yet you are arguing on why PAF hasn't released SAAB radar images.

Troll as much you want .
Nightmare of Feb 26 is still didnt get over for some people in Pakistan .
That is why still airspace is closed .

That too even after around 2 months .
Pathetic .
But we dont even have an alert in our airspace .
And that is the confidence level



Then prove it .man.
Release the pictures of Saab Awacs .
Show the proof ,if you have any.
It wasnt the petty PR attempt of ISPR ,it was the unnecessary play of FP magazine that forced us to release radar pictures.

Nightmare ot February 26, hahaha. Oh, please. Our airspace is open, it is just closed for flights out of and in to India.

The true nightmare was February 27, Indians were in full denial mode. They called their own pilot as a Pakistani pilot and a monkey. Half arsed arguments like that of mustache. Indians literally couldn't believe what happened. Stuff on this side was much more calm, to us it was just another Indian drama, and that if true they will obviously get a rude awakening soon.

Fact that India's supa pawa ego so hurt that it decided to deploy missiles and mobilize its one force which did not get a spanking yet (ie navy) only to be able to do nothing about it. Yup, truly somehow a nightmare for Pakistan, haha.

 

[Nityam]

I wrote all that just to show that shots in a single time frame of radar images do not prove anything, yet you are arguing on why PAF hasn't released SAAB radar images.



Nightmare ot February 26, hahaha. Oh, please. Our airspace is open, it is just closed for flights out of and in to India.

The true nightmare was February 27, Indians were in full denial mode. They called their own pilot as a Pakistani pilot and a monkey. Half arsed arguments like that of mustache. Indians literally couldn't believe what happened. Stuff on this side was much more calm, to us it was just another Indian drama, and that if true they will obviously get a rude awakening soon.

Fact that India's supa pawa ego so hurt that it decided to deploy missiles and mobilize its one force which did not get a spanking yet (ie navy) only to be able to do nothing about it. Yup, truly somehow a nightmare for Pakistan, haha.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ace-tussle-spices-up/articleshow/69066830.cms

On April 3, a Sharjah-Kabul SpiceJet cargo flight (VT-SFB) was turned back by Pakistani air traffic controllers despite the Indian carrier having obtained prior permission from Pakistan’s Civil Aviation Authority.

SpiceJet sent a complaint to India’s civil aviation ministry — ET has reviewed the plaint — and the ministry forwarded it to the ministry of external affairs. And India decided to retaliate.

No permission is being granted any more by the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) for non-scheduled flights by Pak-registered aircraft.

Non-scheduled flights include those by aircraft owned by individuals or companies or chartered planes or even aircraft carrying government or personnel from multilateral agencies.

‘NO WRITTEN ORDER’
“There is no written order but we are not allowing any Pakistan-registered aircraft to use the Indian airspace since the day (April 3) Islamabad did not allow an India-registered aircraft despite clearances,” said a senior DGCA official, who did not want to be identified.

He explained that all non-scheduled aircraft not registered in India need DGCA approval for using Indian airspace. These approvals are granted on a reciprocal basis as Indian-registered aircraft also require such clearances while flying over other countries.

“Some approval requests from Pakistan-registered aircraft flying over India were received by us. We rejected these requests,” said the DGCA official.

A recent example was a Pakistan-registered aircraft that sought clearance for a flight that originated in Bangkok and was to overfly India. The approval was not granted, and that would have meant hours of extra flying time and a big addition to fuel cost, the official said.

After Pakistan’s closure of its airspace to Indian aircraft, international flights to and from India and those overflying India and Pakistan have had to take longer routes, adding to costs.

 

[Lincoln]

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ace-tussle-spices-up/articleshow/69066830.cms

On April 3, a Sharjah-Kabul SpiceJet cargo flight (VT-SFB) was turned back by Pakistani air traffic controllers despite the Indian carrier having obtained prior permission from Pakistan’s Civil Aviation Authority.

SpiceJet sent a complaint to India’s civil aviation ministry — ET has reviewed the plaint — and the ministry forwarded it to the ministry of external affairs. And India decided to retaliate.

No permission is being granted any more by the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) for non-scheduled flights by Pak-registered aircraft.

Non-scheduled flights include those by aircraft owned by individuals or companies or chartered planes or even aircraft carrying government or personnel from multilateral agencies.

‘NO WRITTEN ORDER’
“There is no written order but we are not allowing any Pakistan-registered aircraft to use the Indian airspace since the day (April 3) Islamabad did not allow an India-registered aircraft despite clearances,” said a senior DGCA official, who did not want to be identified.

He explained that all non-scheduled aircraft not registered in India need DGCA approval for using Indian airspace. These approvals are granted on a reciprocal basis as Indian-registered aircraft also require such clearances while flying over other countries.

“Some approval requests from Pakistan-registered aircraft flying over India were received by us. We rejected these requests,” said the DGCA official.

A recent example was a Pakistan-registered aircraft that sought clearance for a flight that originated in Bangkok and was to overfly India. The approval was not granted, and that would have meant hours of extra flying time and a big addition to fuel cost, the official said.

After Pakistan’s closure of its airspace to Indian aircraft, international flights to and from India and those overflying India and Pakistan have had to take longer routes, adding to costs.

April 3 man. And any jets to and fro India are denied, what is new. It is known that till April 6 or around, a lot of airspace was closed.

 

[Nityam]

April 3 man. And any jets to and fro India are denied, what is new. It is known that till April 6 or around, a lot of airspace was closed.

Banning air space is a TWO WAY street.

Only India has a much larger air space that restricts pakistans access to the east.

 

[Lincoln]

Banning air space is a TWO WAY street.

Only India has a much larger air space that restricts pakistans access to the east.

Flights to east are much much less than compared to west. For every 100 Indian jets going west, only 10 Pakistani jets are going east.

 

[Nityam]

Flights to east are much much less than compared to west. For every 100 Indian jets going west, only 10 Pakistani jets are going east.

Of 100 Indian jets going west, only 10 fly from Delhi.

 

[Tom M]

Indian Chest Thumping at " Pakistan closed its AIR SPACE For days" is beyond idiotic
with Air Space closed and surrounding area clear its easier for Radars and AWACS to determine CIVI , Friendly or ENEMY
Indian air forces could have used a cover of Civilian Craft for Deep attack inside Pakistan.
If Pakistan Escalated while its Air Space was open indian or Pakistan could have mistook a Civilian aircraft

Pakistan and Indian Can both Survive closer of each others Air space
Majority of Pakistani travel towards West so its not affecting as much its affecting Indian airlines.

That's not true. We lost around Rs. 3 Billion will Pakistan's loss is amounted at Rs. 2.7 Billion. Check your own news sources few days back. The question is how long PIA and Air India can sustain these losses??

Pak-India airspace closure: National institutions suffer Rs2.55b loss

https://www.samaa.tv/news/2019/03/a...s-as-numerous-flight-routes-remain-suspended/

 

[Imran Khan]

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ace-tussle-spices-up/articleshow/69066830.cms

On April 3, a Sharjah-Kabul SpiceJet cargo flight (VT-SFB) was turned back by Pakistani air traffic controllers despite the Indian carrier having obtained prior permission from Pakistan’s Civil Aviation Authority.

SpiceJet sent a complaint to India’s civil aviation ministry — ET has reviewed the plaint — and the ministry forwarded it to the ministry of external affairs. And India decided to retaliate.

No permission is being granted any more by the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) for non-scheduled flights by Pak-registered aircraft.

Non-scheduled flights include those by aircraft owned by individuals or companies or chartered planes or even aircraft carrying government or personnel from multilateral agencies.

‘NO WRITTEN ORDER’
“There is no written order but we are not allowing any Pakistan-registered aircraft to use the Indian airspace since the day (April 3) Islamabad did not allow an India-registered aircraft despite clearances,” said a senior DGCA official, who did not want to be identified.

He explained that all non-scheduled aircraft not registered in India need DGCA approval for using Indian airspace. These approvals are granted on a reciprocal basis as Indian-registered aircraft also require such clearances while flying over other countries.

“Some approval requests from Pakistan-registered aircraft flying over India were received by us. We rejected these requests,” said the DGCA official.

A recent example was a Pakistan-registered aircraft that sought clearance for a flight that originated in Bangkok and was to overfly India. The approval was not granted, and that would have meant hours of extra flying time and a big addition to fuel cost, the official said.

After Pakistan’s closure of its airspace to Indian aircraft, international flights to and from India and those overflying India and Pakistan have had to take longer routes, adding to costs.

Its not our right to do so ? We can push out anytime even if its agreed before

That's not true. We lost around Rs. 3 Billion will Pakistan's loss is amounted at Rs. 2.7 Billion. Check your own news sources few days back. The question is how long PIA and Air India can sustain these losses??

Wrong air india only loss 3bn
Indian civil aviation loss more
Spice indigo airasia and other cargo passenger airlines loss a huge amount .jet ka to khana hi kharab ho gya tha.dont be smart