London museum showcases India’s contribution to science

[Indus Pakistan]

Let me put it in another way. Let us assume that South of India - Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Karnataka had been 85% Muslim dominant in 1947. And what is now Pakistan had been 90% Hindu dominant. In this instance Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Karanaka are partitioned into "Pakistan". Do you think this alternate Pakistan in the south tip of the sub-continent would have been same as today's Pakistan? I, Sher Shah Awan etc would have been Tamil, Keralites etc and our culture, history, food and clothing would have been entirely differant.

Today Pakistan is what it is because of the blocks that made it. It was not Tamil nadu, Kerala etc that it is made of. The building blocks are K-Pk, Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan as federating provinces covering most of the Indus region. That is what makes this Pakistan unique. The building blocks. The unique recipe.

Indian subcontinent IS a geographical entity. That is a fact.

Yes it is. So?

India as a nation today houses and represents all aspects of history that went into the creation of the Indian subcontinent.

How so? How does it represent Khyber Pakhtunwa. How does it represent Sindh? Just curious? Non of those regions have contracted Indian Republic to represent them or did I miss something?

 

[Pakistani E]

I'm comparing the entity in modern times that comes closest to representing what was India as a geographical concept as described by historians.
If the naming convention was switched where Pakistan was named India, would it truly represent the various facets of the history of the subcontinent? If so how?

So how can you justify the material progress made by people in what is now Pakistan and apply it to the geographical boundaries of the modern state of India? Is Pakistan not a representation of the people who live here and have lived here for thousands of years?

Application of geographical boundaries would mean that many of these things mentioned in the article could not be applied to India as they happened in what is Pakistan.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

If Pakistan changed it's name to "Asia" tommorow would we be empowered to unilaterally represent every country on the Asian continent just because we chose the name "Asia". This would be madness.

 

[Peshwa]

How so? How does it represent Khyber Pakhtunwa. How does it represent Sindh? Just curious? Non of those regions have contracted Indian Republic to represent them or did I miss something?

Is the history of the subcontinent solely represented by KPK or Sindh? NO
The Indian subcontinent consists of a lot more than that!
Had India been one country (ie whole subcontinent), it would be an amalgamation of every part of India, Pak, BD etc.
Can Pak truly represent the history of the Indian subcontinent as a whole? NO!
Which entity comes closest to it? Only India.
So which country should be named India if at all? The Republic of India obviously since it comes closes to encompassing all phases off history of the subcontinent, not just people of a particular region.

 

[jetray]

IVC. Harrapa, Mohenjo Daro. Mehr Garh. Sirkap. Taxila. The zero. That is us. Our contribution tio civilization.

yeah go around the world telling that sanskrit is your mother tongue.
When camels act like cows........



The Bakhshali manuscript is a mathematical text written on birch bark ......
The manuscript is written in an earlier form of Śāradā script, which was mainly in use from the 8th...
The Śāradā or Sarada or Sharada script is an abugida writing system of the Brahmic family of scripts, developed before the 3rd century. It was used for writing Sanskrit and Kashmiri.
This is a native script of Kashmir and named after the deity, Goddess Śāradā.[1] Śāradā is another name for Saraswati, the goddess of learning.

 

[Peshwa]

So how can you justify the material progress made by people in what is now Pakistan and apply it to the geographical boundaries of the modern state of India? Is Pakistan not a representation of the people who live here and have lived here for thousands of years?

Application of geographical boundaries would mean that many of these things mentioned in the article could not be applied to India as they happened in what is Pakistan.

Again you're missing the woods for the trees.
I have no objection to what you consider "Pakistani history". I may have my own thoughts on it, but its your opinion and right to opinion.
My argument is aimed at what entity would truly represent all facets of Indian subcontinent throughout history in the current scenario. And if so, shouldn't that entity be named India?
I believe it is.

 

[Pakistani E]

If Pakistan changed it's name to "Asia" tommorow would we be empowered to unilaterally represent every country on the Asian continent just because we chose the name "Asia". This would be madness.

The best way to pull the chair from under the Indians would be to rename Pakistan to Indus Republic of Pakistan.

 

[jetray]

If Pakistan changed it's name to "Asia" tommorow would we be empowered to unilaterally represent every country on the Asian continent just because we chose the name "Asia". This would be madness.

do try, you can also change Indian oceans name to pakistan ocean. Lets see how many ppl will follow that or laugh at you.

Indus Republic of Pakistan.

wats preventing you ppl from doing it?

 

[Pakistani E]

Again you're missing the woods for the trees.
I have no objection to what you consider "Pakistani history". I may have my own thoughts on it, but its your opinion and right to opinion.
My argument is aimed at what entity would truly represent all facets of Indian subcontinent throughout history in the current scenario. And if so, shouldn't that entity be named India?
I believe it is.

Okay, so you do you guys also represent my specific people in Pakistan? Who are arguably the indigenous people as they have actually been called Hindkis and Hindkoawans by other peoples. How many Hindko speakers do you guys have? Do you guys know our history? Who in modern state of India represent us and our culture? And don't say Dillip Kumar please.

So you guys represent us, but we don't represent our selves. Am I understanding this correctly?

wats preventing you ppl from doing it?

We choose our own names, not like some of our neighbours who take after the names their masters give them.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Okay let me try to explain it this way. Assume tomorrow Pakistan changes it's international style to "Asia". Since there is a continent called Asia. Since it has existed and been known as such for millenias. Would it follow thart "Asia Republic of Pakistan" could now unilaterally claim every Asian's countries heritage and claim that it represents all of Asia? Do you think rest of Asia would just accept our representation of them on the guise of being "Asian"? The infographic below sums up my point nicely.

 

[Peshwa]

Okay, so you do you guys also represent my specific people in Pakistan? Who are arguably the indigenous people as they have actually been called Hindkis and Hindkoawans by other peoples. How many Hindko speakers do you guys have? Do you guys know our history? Who in modern state of India represent us and our culture? And don't say Dillip Kumar please.

So you guys represent us, but we don't represent our selves. Am I understanding this correctly?

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You choose to be Obtuse!
Do the awans represent the entirety of the sub continent? If so, then let me know. Ill step down from my argument.
But if not, try to understand that the history of your people is a small nay minute portion of the entire history.
India (subcontinent) as a geographical entity is not just Pakistan, or BD or India.
But if one country had to represent it as being closest to covering all historical aspects of the subcontinent, it would be India as it covers more diversity, religions, ethnicities than the other parts combined.

Now you can continue to go into tangents or tackle the logic I'm providing. I can only lead the horse to water.

 

[Pakistani E]

You choose to be Obtuse!
Do the awans represent the entirety of the sub continent? If so, then let me know. Ill step down from my argument.
But if not, try to understand that the history of your people is a small nay minute portion of the entire history.
India (subcontinent) as a geographical entity is not just Pakistan, or BD or India.
But if one country had to represent it as being closest to covering all historical aspects of the subcontinent, it would be India as it covers more diversity, religions, ethnicities than the other parts combined.

Now you can continue to go into tangents or tackle the logic I'm providing. I can only lead the horse to water.

I am not just talking about Awans lol. Hazarewals or Hindkos are made up of dozens of tribes, none of which are present in India. Mate, you don't even know who Hazarewal people are and you are saying you represent us (And everyone else in the subcontinent apparently). And I am not the one saying I represent everyone. You say India does, so I asked how do you represent my people when you don't have a single speaker of my language, nor the follower of it's culture or customs.

 

[jetray]

So you guys represent us, but we don't represent our selves. Am I understanding this correctly?

we were original inhabitants of that land. If you are the original inhabitants why do you temples in your country? you should be having mosques.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1256209
1500 years of our history: Enter the Katas Raj temples

If it is your culture, how many muslims are named after river Sindhu?

 

[Pakistani E]

we were original inhabitants of that land. If you are the original inhabitants why do you temples in your country? you should be having mosques.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1256209
1500 years of our history: Enter the Katas Raj temples

If it is your culture, how many muslims are named after river Sindhu?

So where are you from in Pakistan as you say you are the original inhabitants of the land?

 

[MultaniGuy]

IVC is part of Pakistan's history, not India's.