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Not fear mongering when ever Holy comes up half a dozen articles come out lecturing us on how it wastes water, when ever Diwali comes up suddenly seculars remember about environment. And then there is a habit of shaming generalizing and stereotyping Hindu religious leaders by calling them "Godmen" . When Mullahs and Bishops rape or does a crime, Media is silent but when you have some random religious leader who is Hindu does something you end up with broad stereotypes and generalizations on Hinduism. Hinduism is not Dogmatic, but people can only take so much before they reply in kind.

The Taleban aplogists also quote all of the above to show how muslims are 'victimized', see a trend?
 
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The Taleban aplogists also quote all of the above to show how muslims are 'victimized', see a trend?

Church desecration protesters also showed how christians are "victimized", see a trend there too ? :coffee: ............ or do you see a Link between "Taliban" and "Hindutva" ? ..."Nazi" and "Hindutva" ?
 
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I know, but the way he was treated and insulted at the behest Sonia Gandhi and leaders like Sitaram Kesri were necked out of Congress party HeadQuarters ushered in a 'Dynastic era' as with every dynasty it produces idiots and it happened to be Pappu.Thank god it stopped with him if Pappu was even a tad bit intelligent,India would have suffered another 50 years.


First of all,Did you Vote for BJP?

'The way in which he was treated' was not at the behest of Sonia. He had effectively sidelined Sonia and Rahul. It was at the behest of a scheming conniving asshole called Sitaram Kesri. That's how Congress (despite Rao's superb performance) lost power. That's what forced them to bring back Sonia because they realized that if you don't put them back on the head party infighting will once again throw the party into chaos. And no- it was not a bad strategy. The proof of the pudding is in the eating- congress not only defeated BJP but also stayed in power for 8 more years. Whether it is the right strategy now is questionable. It is for congress to decide what changes need to be made.
 
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Anyway guys work beckons, will reply to your posts later.
 
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About AAP: That's a party of activists, they are better outside the government in an agitating role, governing needs different skill sets and attitude. In short, I neither like their 'policies', nor I have faith in their ability to govern a state/country.

About Kejriwal: He is a hypocrite, his 'anti-corruption' and 'austerity' are just political stunts (proven), while everyone 'fakes' in politics, he goes on to point fingers at everyone else, it is moral dishonesty which I dislike more than anything else.

Tehy've been doing a reat job with governance, ANd it is now coming out that at least a few cheques of AWAM were actually fake and forgeries (including forged signatures)
 
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And he openly admitted his mistake and learned from it, which I'd say refreshingly new in Indian political spectrum.

He had no other choice...

Even I was shocked when this happened but it looks like there is more to the story than what media reported, there is no wrong doing found in investigation against the AAP politician.


seriously ?? what do you think happened there then

This is just an allegation without any proof.

Alligation made by an Army major who has won gallantry awards, i think i prefer trusting him over AAP.

This is falsification.
The reasoning of NCERT to refuse to remove the part about Bhagat Singh is because they wanted to teach the students about how freedom fighters were treated by Britishers,it said Britishers declared him a terrorist and not that the NCERT guys portrayed him as one and supported the Britishers

Prashant Bhushan opposed removing references to Bhagat Singh as Terrorist - Delhi High Court Order

Then why did he oppose it ??

I answered this couple of times before, there is no absolute capitalism and all government provide subsidies.

To such an extent where you drain the resources of the state ?
 
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He had no other choice...




seriously ?? what do you think happened there then



Alligation made by an Army major who has won gallantry awards, i think i prefer trusting him over AAP.



Prashant Bhushan opposed removing references to Bhagat Singh as Terrorist - Delhi High Court Order

Then why did he oppose it ??



To such an extent where you drain the resources of the state ?

WHy can't I find a credible link to any of these allegations? Plus, you didn't do the math on resources, he has.
 
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I am from West Bengal, I didn't find a suitable party to vote in last few election and I'm in NY for last one year anyway.
So then, please don't give us lectures of How people voted for BJP on development etc.We know what we voted for, and we voted BJP for protection of hindus,development was a Bonus.First comes our lives and protection,But here with Modiji it is a all in one bonus package.
This is funny, every pseudo-secular person wants to BJP to follow pseudo-Secularism and not Hindutva,when they never voted for BJP themselves.

'The way in which he was treated' was not at the behest of Sonia. He had effectively sidelined Sonia and Rahul. It was at the behest of a scheming conniving asshole called Sitaram Kesri. That's how Congress (despite Rao's superb performance) lost power. That's what forced them to bring back Sonia because they realized that if you don't put them back on the head party infighting will once again throw the party into chaos. And no- it was not a bad strategy. The proof of the pudding is in the eating- congress not only defeated BJP but also stayed in power for 8 more years. Whether it is the right strategy now is questionable. It is for congress to decide what changes need to be made.
Don't shoot in the dark,My family was very much involved with Congress for a long time,know a lot of congress leaders in AP.Even PVNR's family.
What happened in Congress and the infighting is a open secret,Sonia Gandhi pitched in and burned all the bridges, the grass roots leadership was replaced by "Sonia Amma" chamchas.There are no more leaders being produced by youth congress that's the truth.
The only way Congress will revive itself is by removing "Gandhis" and Dynasty tag and let some other leader take the reins.As long as Gandhis stay,I will say Good luck Congress,Keep trying.The new Generation won't tolerate them.
 
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I know, but the way he was treated and insulted at the behest Sonia Gandhi and leaders like Sitaram Kesri were necked out of Congress party HeadQuarters ushered in a 'Dynastic era' as with every dynasty it produces idiots and it happened to be Pappu.Thank god it stopped with him if Pappu was even a tad bit intelligent,India would have suffered another 50 years.

Assuming that..........

1. Rahul has some 35-40 years of political career left in him.

2. He might even end up marrying and fathering 1 or 2 kids 'like him'.

3. Priyanka joining politics, and Mr. Vadra who is already the 'fastest billionare of India', end up being the fastest richest man on this planet.

4. Mr. Vadra's children, who are expected to become politically known as 'Gandhis', will inherit the teachings of their father.

.........I don't think it is over.
 
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Assuming that..........

1. Rahul has some 35-40 years of political career left in him.

2. He might even end up marrying and fathering 1 or 2 kids 'like him'.

3. Priyanka joining politics, and Mr. Vadra who is already the fastest billionare of India, end up being the fastest richest man on this planet.

4. Mr. Vadra's children, who are expected to become politically known as 'Gandhis', will inherit the teachings of their father.

.........I don't think it is over.
1)He has some 35-40 yrs left, but his mentors are retiring fast and he has no Social Interaction skills with workers on ground, haven't got the oratory skills to impress others.Nor is he that Brilliant to impress someone.

2)Going by his age,if he even marries now,after 40 years there is a high chance of him producing a Down's syndrome or autistic baby instead of a healthy one.That is not going to help either.

3)Priyanka can join politics, but opposition will eat her up due to her husband.Vadra might land in jail sooner than we think.
4)Vadras children repackaged as "Gandhis" will not go down well with anyone, nor can the fool the present generation masquerading as Gandhis when they are Vadras.
it is almost over though,it remains upon Modi and Amit shah to lower the coffin into the ground and bury it up with soil.
 
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seriously ?? what do you think happened there then

As per Kejriwal, the whole party wanted to remove Somnath Bharthi after incident when the whole media up in arms against him, but he along with other AAP members has seen the raw footage of the incident provided by media houses and found out no wrong doing by him.

I didn't see the raw footage and don't believe Kejriwal's word, however I believe in investigation report which didn't find Somnath Bharthi guilty.

The people where the incident happened also support Somnath Bharthi, which tells you something.

Among all parties in India, I'd assume AAP to be least xenophobic.



NCERT was the client of Prashant Bhusan and he advocated for it in court, so basically as per you all advocates need to be prosecuted because what they say in court?

I already told you why NCERT opposed to remove the reference, there are many other texts which were challenged as well, Prashant Bhusan as lawyer advocated for NCERT.


To such an extent where you drain the resources of the state ?

That is a different debate and even as per Kejriwal, open to discussion.

So then, please don't give us lectures of How people voted for BJP on development etc.We know what we voted for, and we voted BJP for protection of hindus,development was a Bonus.First comes our lives and protection,But here with Modiji it is a all in one bonus package.
This is funny, every pseudo-secular person wants to BJP to follow pseudo-Secularism and not Hindutva,when they never voted for BJP themselves.

I'm not "lecturing" you, I'm saying a "fact" that only 31% of people voted for BJP and then making an "assertion" that many of them might have been voted BJP for development and not for "protecting the Hindus".

If you voted for BJP to "protect the Hindus" that's fine with me, but just as I don't have the right to speak for all who voted for BJP, I daresay you don't have it either.

This is funny, every pseudo-secular person wants to BJP to follow pseudo-Secularism and not Hindutva,when they never voted for BJP themselves.

Funnier still, even Modi seems to be following the "pseudo-secular" if we see the last 9 months he is power. But remind me again, who is going form govt in Kashmir along with Jehadi party who is against everything BJP said about Kashmir?
 
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As per Kejriwal, the whole party wanted to remove Somnath Bharthi after incident when the whole media up in arms against him, but he along with other AAP members has seen the raw footage of the incident provided by media houses and found out no wrong doing by him.

I didn't see the raw footage and don't believe Kejriwal's word, however I believe in investigation report which didn't find Somnath Bharthi guilty.

The people where the incident happened also support Somnath Bharthi, which tells you something.

Among all parties in India, I'd assume AAP to be least xenophobic.

You start your reply by saying "As per Kejriwal" ....... yet in the same vein go on to claim that you do not believe in his words :lol:

Do you have the copy of the "investigation report" which convinced you of Somnath Bharathi's innocence ? :cheesy: .... why don't you share it with us ?

You then go on to claim that AAP is the least "Xenophobic" ........... i.e. dislike of people of OTHER COUNTRIES or Foreigners :P .........How about your very own TMC which welcome Bangladeshis ? That does better than AAP. So I take it you are a TMC suppoter too ?
 
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As per Kejriwal, the whole party wanted to remove Somnath Bharthi after incident when the whole media up in arms against him, but he along with other AAP members has seen the raw footage of the incident provided by media houses and found out no wrong doing by him.
I didn't see the raw footage and don't believe Kejriwal's word, however I believe in investigation report which didn't find Somnath Bharthi guilty.
The people where the incident happened also support Somnath Bharthi, which tells you something.
Among all parties in India, I'd assume AAP to be least xenophobic.

Well fact is women were forced to Urinate in public, and those "public support" are reports from AAP which i do not believe And not to mention the woman was not found guilty.

NCERT was the client of Prashant Bhusan and he advocated for it in court, so basically as per you all advocates need to be prosecuted because what they say in court?
I already told you why NCERT opposed to remove the reference, there are many other texts which were challenged as well, Prashant Bhusan as lawyer advocated for NCERT.

Makes you wonder what kind of a person he is especially since he is known to talk about other blunders.


That is a different debate and even as per Kejriwal, open to discussion.

What ever the Debate we can't afford Kolkata 2.0 in Delhi
 
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