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Lockheed Martin offers F-16 Block 70, for India, from India, exported to the world

Jokes aside if this happens PAF will stop buying F-16s block A/B from countries like Jordan Just to put aside humiliation ..Nah no worries PAF will still get F-16's from the DARKK WEB!!

It's a scam, LM is trying to scam India. Air forces around the world are getting rid of their F-16s, and the ones that are buying them, they're buying second hand, because they're cheaper than brand new. The only market that India would have is spare parts, and they won't make money on that, to cover the cost of this deal.

But by all means, buy the damn thing, give Pakistan a reason to get rid of its fleet of F-16s.
Fantastic Weh Last I remember yo were quite Pro F-16's .Just sayin
 
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This is the best deal ever for India even if there is no market for the teen still technologically one of the best.

India can mature the technolgy in 7 years then it will help her to employ it in it's 5th Gen fighter don't tell me the F-35 20 years ahead of the teen that just none sense since this is B-70.

Jokes aside if this happens PAF will stop buying F-16s block A/B from countries like Jordan Just to put aside humiliation ..Nah no worries PAF will still get F-16's from the DARKK WEB!!


Fantastic Weh Last I remember yo were quite Pro F-16's .Just sayin
Your only hope not your JF-17 with all due respect but it will be the J-10 C/D you need to scrap your thunder and start the serious business.
 
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This is not possible , they will not transfer everything to India ...even India should think twice before buying some fighting platform from USA ...what if we buy 200 aircrafts and they stop providing spare parts .... or blackmailing India ...India has independent foreign policy no need to compromise that

There is no need to give any bargaining chips to US ... they are famous to stop all successful projects of their allies example are Canadian avro arrow and Israili Lavi ...... still they were behind sabotaging the cryogenic engine efforts of ISRO in early 90s and there are many indications that may CIA was behind the killings of BARC scientists
If India gets complete ToT including on engines, avionics and software codes then this is probably a better deal than anything India can get from the French.

This way, India doesn't only get an extremely potent platform, that can probably take on Rafael and hold its own, but also the opportunity to sneer down at PAF. Now that is a good deal!
 
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This is not possible , they will not transfer everything to India ...even India should think twice before buying some fighting platform from USA ...what if we buy 200 aircrafts and they stop providing spare parts .... or blackmailing India ...India has independent foreign policy no need to compromise that

There is no need to give any bargaining chips to US ... they are famous to stop all successful projects of their allies example are Canadian avro arrow and Israili Lavi ...... still they were behind sabotaging the cryogenic engine efforts of ISRO in early 90s and there are many indications that may CIA was behind the killings of BARC scientists
All those concern are not valid for some reasons.

1- India is the new biggest ally of the US.
2- The US busy with it's new F-35 for the next 30 years
3-The US has the top tech demonstrated and represented by the f-35

So for all of those and may be some other reasons you are presented with the finest 4th Gen fighter on silver plate with great price.
 
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this could be a future India structure

Pak-FA= at least 120
Super 30= at least 300
Rafale=at least 64
F-16 blk 70= at least 200

scrap LCA, sell Mirage 2000 and Mig-29. retire Mig-21,mig-27, and SEPCAT.



scrapping LCA unlikely... at least 120 would be there..
 
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Please Please get this deal have the f-16 production facility in India. Then, at last we can get its spares in black market from India :enjoy:

Why black market...We will provide discounted pricing to all the customers with the promise that Indian willl not use F-16 but only Russian Sukhoi's only.
 
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F-16 sounds really outdated.. F/A-18 or F-35 would be more tempting! US shouldn't try & sell a technology which was sold to & mastered by our adversaries for decades!
 
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F-16 sounds really outdated.. F/A-18 or F-35 would be more tempting! US shouldn't try & sell a technology which was sold to & mastered by our adversaries for decades!

Pakistan might have the best F-16 pilots in the world according to a few sources but their F-16s don't have AESA,AIM-9X, AIM-120D which the India F-16 70 would have!! giving India a huge advantage in a conflict.


India buying the most advance F-16 would render Pakistan F-16 pretty much oboslete
 
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Pakistan might have the best F-16 pilots in the world according to a few sources but their F-16s don't have AESA,AIM-9X, AIM-120D which the India F-16 70 would have!! giving India a huge advantage in a conflict.


India buying the most advance F-16 would render Pakistan F-16 pretty much oboslete

F-16 is old concept which lived its full life


F-16 blk 70 is may be best in the block but it will be obsolete in 15 years

And it has Nothing better to offer in Mid lifetime Upgrade after half of its service life after 2032
 
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Pakistan might have the best F-16 pilots in the world according to a few sources but their F-16s don't have AESA,AIM-9X, AIM-120D which the India F-16 70 would have!! giving India a huge advantage in a conflict.


India buying the most advance F-16 would render Pakistan F-16 pretty much oboslete
well they still have China and who knows china just might give them J31 & J20 with AESA radar and all the next gen air to air missiles :tup:

F-16 is old concept which lived its full life


F-16 blk 70 is may be best in the block but it will be obsolete in 15 years

And it has Nothing better to offer in Mid lifetime Upgrade after half of its service life after 2032
but in next 15 years we are going to have three diffrent type of stealth/5th gen fighters from three diffrent sources till then there will be nothing to beat F16Blk70/72 for the next 10-15 with our oppostion
 
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If India gets complete ToT including on engines, avionics and software codes then this is probably a better deal than anything India can get from the French.

This way, India doesn't only get an extremely potent platform, that can probably take on Rafael and hold its own, but also the opportunity to sneer down at PAF. Now that is a good deal!

LM does not produce engines, so they do not have any ToT to offer on that.
 
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LM does not produce engines, so they do not have any ToT to offer on that.
GE is the engine supplier and they might nit give TOT but wont put a spanner in the deal when they themselfs are going to get a heafty deal for long term basis
 
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It's a scam, LM is trying to scam India. Air forces around the world are getting rid of their F-16s, and the ones that are buying them, they're buying second hand, because they're cheaper than brand new. The only market that India would have is spare parts, and they won't make money on that, to cover the cost of this deal.

But by all means, buy the damn thing, give Pakistan a reason to get rid of its fleet of F-16s.

F16 B70 is still one of the potent platforms and include 5th gen technologies. India needs a lighter plane to replete its Mig21s. F16 B70 are the best replacement for Mig21s. 120 F16 B70's are a force to reckon with in this region. May be @Windjammer might explain the capabilities of F16s as he follows this platform to minute details. There are plans by LM to make available F16 for next 20 years with F16 Vs meant for US Air Force

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a17874/f-16v-first-flight/

Moreover, India plans to exports made in India F16 to the world. That is a great foreign exchange earner and in tune with the present government's plan to make India a major defence manufacturing hub. LM itself sees 15 billion dollar export potential for made in India f16.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...de-in-india-f16-jets/articleshow/53532624.cms
 
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F-16 is old concept which lived its full life


F-16 blk 70 is may be best in the block but it will be obsolete in 15 years

And it has Nothing better to offer in Mid lifetime Upgrade after half of its service life after 2032


compared to the upcoming Pak-FA,J-20, it'll be oboslete in the next 15 to 20 years, but it's still a perfectly good proven plane nonetheless.

with your logic what's the point of building LCA?? is it just to gain knowledge in building airplanes?? you can get that same knowledge with the F-16 block 70 and it's a better overall plane.
 
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