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also we need to note that the market for US platforms is decreasing so i dont think India should get them under Make in IndiaSaab offer is better than F16 atm in terms of industrial benefits but due to its continuous effort to position its Gripen E as LCA Mk2 and constant talk of becoming a consultant for LCA Mk1A projects has rubbed MOD in a wrong manner.
The biggest challenge is Gripen E will have IOC by 2021 and FOC by 2023 if all goes as per plan. Thats way too much for India as IAF wont accept a foreign aircraft before FOC. We even did not budge for LCA Tejas on this so Gripen E wont get any exceptions at all.
Here in July 8th, i covered the package details
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https://defence.pk/threads/dassault...ussions-thread-2.351407/page-270#post-8447719
Notice the main points
Boeing F18 Initially wanted a 100% Boeing India unit to build the jets from kits and later from raw material stage with nothing under GOI control. This route enables all senate approvals without any hassles as nothing is shared at all and everything is under USA control only. This was rejected by DM MP
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This was in Feb 17,2016
https://defence.pk/threads/dassault...ussions-thread-2.351407/page-142#post-8163398
Boeing climbed down from 100% subsidiary now to 74% stake and 26% with Tata (TASL) with some work for TASL but there was a major catch. Boeing knows clearly that it cannot get Senate approval for any TOT and thus wishes a G2G route with offset execution by TASL..
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Thats in June 26, 2016
https://defence.pk/threads/dassault...ussions-thread-2.351407/page-263#post-8416070
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Thus in terms of deals none of the offers so far are lucrative enough. TBH, the last from LM mentions about F35 as well. But critically when DM MP questions them on real technology transfer and if India wants access codes for radars, avionics, Jammers, Stealth aspect, Engines and other associated products, none of the trio - LM, Saab and Boeing - has been able to talk on this and reply properly.
It is beyond doubt that all of them are taking India for a ride with nothing much to do except screw driver based kit assembling for LM, nothing to share by Boeing/G2G offsets and Saab a paper plane without certification as of today or in next 1 year when this decision will be taken.
Thats the only reason Rafale has been in pole position all along as what India wanted is getting but you have to pay a price and also expand this acquisition number in order to reduce the such capital cost over the fleet size.
Moreover Indian Navy will be a customer of the MII line in India. So Single engine naval bird is already under process for IN (LCA -N) so no Gripen or F16 Block 72 (Naval version) and Boeing F18 wont get the cut as its unable to get a MII in the first place. So logical choice again rests with Rafale M.
best for Indian aerospace Industry is the SAAB deal
as you pointed out
bu the timeframe MMRCA or tejas is gonna hit skies
they may become irrelevant because of superior platforms in adverseries hands
the question is why the hell do India want western Platforms so bad
they are clearly not in aircraft crisis
super sukhois, mig29s, mirage 2k, and guaranteed 5th gen platform by 2025
what else an airforce no matter how big it is ask for
MMRCA for me is dying a slow death
soon we might hear the news of its cancellation altogether