Liwa Zanibiyoun

[Counter-Errorist]

hybrid war . shadow wars . 5th gen wars

hello ?

1. the lines between religion, sect , media , Facebook , twitter have all melted .

2. the days of touting ' this no of ballistic missiles ' and ' that number of JF17s' is over . now wars are fought by proxy .

3. for the cost of one jf 17, you can hire a battalion of proxies who can do far more carnage

4. iran is simply conducting its aggressive foreign policy by ' other ' asymmetric means . hiring mercenaries from parachinar is just part of their ; hybrid ; war

5. " pakistan first " , " we want peace " , " we are a peaceful " nation wont help us anymore. the foolish khan in islamabad should know better . ( has india let go kashmir after the speech)

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Don't agree.

You can't fight a proxy war elsewhere without conventional deterrence.

We fight proxy in Kashmir. If we didn't have the conventional (and strategic) deterrence, India would have simply attacked us directly and shut down our proxies.

Conventional and strategic "numbers" are prerequisites to proxy capability.

 

[Path-Finder]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215911712945254404

 

[B.K.N]

yes they are and doing it in same manner as "fighters from Pakistan fighting Soviets in Afghan War"

They are not doing same. In those days sate of the Pakistan was supporting them. But these people are fighting for some other country not Pakistan. And you yourself are saying it's a crime in Pakistan. If they are criminals then why are you defending them? And why you think calling them by their sect is sectarianism?

 

[Counter-Errorist]

Pakistan should start hiring their Sunni Baluch,Kurd,Azeri and Turkmen regiments for Ghazwa-e-Hind..
The cause is holy.Those who participate in it have been promised great reward upon shahadat..Iran obviously will not have problems with that.

US and the West in general has problems with that. Hence, FATF.

 

[Reddington]

They are not doing same. In those days sate of the Pakistan was supporting them. But these people are fighting for some other country not Pakistan. And you yourself are saying it's a crime in Pakistan. If they are criminals then why are you defending them? And why you think calling them by their sect is sectarianism?

The fact that he gave example of Soviet Afghan war (where Afghans were fighting for their homeland for freedom with Pakistan government fully backing them) and equated them with these sectarian cut throat Zainabioun terrorists being used by the Mullah regime of Iran as cannon fodder in Syria; just shows where the loyalties of these people lie. These people don't care about Pakistan.

 

[Amavous]

Did you see...Pakistani Flag? No...what if abu bakr Baghdadi showed "TTP" Flag in his speech means Pakistani Proxy of daish ...will that scare you?

Baghdadi or ISIS are declared terrorists and outlaws they can show whatever they like and still it will have no legitimacy.

A commander of revolutionary guards in full uniform displaying flags of rouge militias is something completely different and worrying. It also legitimizes the claims that these proxies were created by the Iranian government and they are not some naturally produced resistance movements.

This blatant display and ownership of proxies will legally cause huge problems for Iran internationally.

 

[bsruzm]

Did you see...Pakistani Flag? No...what if abu bakr Baghdadi showed "TTP" Flag in his speech means Pakistani Proxy of daish ...will that scare you?

Nonsense.

 

[TheTallGuy]

They are not doing same. In those days sate of the Pakistan was supporting them. But these people are fighting for some other country not Pakistan. And you yourself are saying it's a crime in Pakistan. If they are criminals then why are you defending them? And why you think calling them by their sect is sectarianism?

Did i say "The are Hajjis" The have broken the law...what i am against is sectarianism ...once we start our selves calling "Muslims" then shia or sunni.. lot of these proxies will die out themselves.

By calling sects ...we are a dividing ourselves thus stroking the sectarian fire which our enemies want..at the time we need to unite/stand..as Muslims.

Criticize shia or sunni but call them muslims...see how things will change.

Baghdadi or ISIS are declared terrorists and outlaws they can show whatever they like and still it will have no legitimacy.

A commander of revolutionary guards in full uniform displaying flags of rouge militias is something completely different and worrying. It also legitimizes the claims that these proxies were created by the Iranian government and they are not some naturally produced resistance movements.

This blatant display and ownership of proxies will legally cause huge problems for Iran internationally.

You got my point...while some didn't.

Praise be to Allah our armed forces & Internal security apparatus is above all this...we exactly know who goes to war and when he come back or did not came back. they are a minority..and effectively handled.

 

[TNT]

Baghdadi or ISIS are declared terrorists and outlaws they can show whatever they like and still it will have no legitimacy.

A commander of revolutionary guards in full uniform displaying flags of rouge militias is something completely different and worrying. It also legitimizes the claims that these proxies were created by the Iranian government and they are not some naturally produced resistance movements.

This blatant display and ownership of proxies will legally cause huge problems for Iran internationally.

Finally someone with brains. Thats the main point, who cares what ISIS or alqaeda says or displays but its different whan an official in uniform owns these groups by displaying those flags.
I think its time china, russia, EU and others also put sanctions on iran as it is the only source of fasaad is this region.

 

[Max]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215277828519923712

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215491383039004673

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215494841037152256

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215561259686551552

Pakistan is trying to keep things under control with all efforts in preventing the region becoming a firestorm that does not benefit anyone in middle east and south Asia. here we have a press conference WITH flags of militia Iran recruits behind the podium. what is the message being sent here? Pakistan is trying keep the lid on the boiling kettle and this is simply NOT acceptable.

its pointless to expect anything from the foreign office and the brazen display of their patronage with some in Pakistan for once needs to be addressed.

Where is ISPR? This is security related matter as well, thousands of Pakistanis are being recruit by a foreign govt for terrorism in other countries.. why ISPR don't speak up?

Either they are involved with Iran in middle East mess or all top military brass is on Iranian payroll..

Decide yourself.

 

[Amavous]

Where is ISPR? This is security related matter as well, thousands of Pakistanis are being recruit by a foreign govt for terrorism in other countries.. why ISPR don't speak up?

Either they are involved with Iran in middle East mess or all top military brass is on Iranian payroll..

Decide yourself.

This recruitment of Shia youth for "Zainebiyoun" is not limited to para chanar or Hazara tribes. This is also a problem in Punjab rural areas. These youth are brainwashed and emotionally blackmailed to enroll in militia and "act as guards" for Ahel-Bait mazarats.

These issues were raised with Iran at the highest level by both the military and political leadership of Pakistan. But they cannot openly confront Iran on this to avoid obvious sectarian tensions.

 

[Max]

These issues were raised with Iran at the highest level by both the military and political leadership of Pakistan. But they cannot openly confront Iran on this to avoid obvious sectarian tensions.

I don't know how to reply to this BS. Someone plz help.

 

[Zulfiqar]

While Iran shoots blanks at yanks, our shah sey ziada wafadars want to protest against American consulate.

Please send them to Iran.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215955713362743296

 

[cocomo]

I think its time china, russia, EU and others also put sanctions on iran as it is the only source of fasaad is this region.

You clearly are paid by the Najdis and down playing their role in breeding cut throat terrorists like ISIS and Al Qaeda. These Wahhabis since their inception have been killing Sufis and Shias "in this region" and allying themselves with colonialist like USA and Britain to subjugate other Muslim sects. Even the Crown Prince Salman said, we spread Wahhabism at the behest of USA to promote their "regional" interests.

 

[Mugen]

Pakistan first needs to be promoted aggressively. This is unacceptable, shame on Iran. I had a lot of respect for them, but I will not stand for their dirty games against our people.