Liwa Zanibiyoun

[Saddam Hussein]

You want me to listen to one person on an online forum where any one can hide his identity and not listen to a PM of Iraq whome majority vote into office in elections held under US forces. Kid please grow up.

Secondly 2 bases were hit.

Is Iran so powerful that USA bowed down to it and let them take out their bases at Ain Assad, Erbil and Taji.

You actually believe politicians?

As for the airbases and army base in Taji. They haven't been taken out, it would take 500 missiles to take them out. Have you seen the size of those bases

Iraq's best leader since 2003 was Al-Abad, unfortunately he was forced out as he wasn't pro-Iran enough.

 

[khail007]

i will read about him .

Sir G, if I am not wrong, PTV drama 'آخری چٹان' (available on YouTube) though not made with 'religious sectarian' issue but for historical one; will help you visualisation of the time. Reading and visualisation will help you the personalities and their role of that historical turning point/disaster of the time.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

Sir G, if I am not wrong, PTV drama 'آخری چٹان' (available on YouTube) though not made with 'religious sectarian' issue but for historical one; will help you visualisation of the time. Reading and visualisation will help you the personalities and their role of that historical turning point/disaster of the time.

akhri chataan starring saleem nasir?

 

[khail007]

akhri chataan starring saleem nasir?

Yes, Sir G that is.

 

[xyxmt]

Such things would not have occurred if we have this one simple rule , Pakistan First .
religion has to be personal matter and state must keep itself separate from such divides, Sunni with KSA and Shia with Iran , Salaa koi Pakistan ke sath hai ya nai ?

Its just not possible as Shia in Pakistan are equally appointed in the highest positions in Pakistan. We can be politically correct and say nicer things but truth is the truth, Shia loyalties are with Iran first and then Pakistan. Iran knows it and that is why they black mail Pakistan and issue threats of crossing into Pakistan....otherwise in reality they know they wont last two days against Pakistan.

 

[925boy]

I am not concerned with percentage BUT people going off to fight for another country and in their proxy!

How do you know if they are fighting for "another country"/Iran OR Shia Islam? They share common religion with Iran and took monthly payment, so its religion + economic contract. Not only brainwashing. Maybe Pakistani Shia think fighting with Iran is better than fighting for Sunni Dominated Pakistan?

Orya maqbool jan used to say that those who went from Pakistan and afghistan were not even allowed to be buried in the special graveyard of pasdaran. They are merely cannon fodder.

They are not merely cannon fodder because they are not as stupid as you think and since they are the ones who actually put their lives on the line, they must have well thought out reasons for why they did what they did. Why dont you ask and learn more from them?? Also, true, Shia have to be more proactive in defending themselves and their holy sites.

 

[Path-Finder]

How do you know if they are fighting for "another country"/Iran OR Shia Islam? They share common religion with Iran and took monthly payment, so its religion + economic contract. Not only brainwashing. Maybe Pakistani Shia think fighting with Iran is better than fighting for Sunni Dominated Pakistan?

you have a large Mexican community in your country so if they go of to fight for mexico would that be ok? what are the laws for yanks fighting for another country?

Maybe Pakistani Shia think fighting with Iran is better than fighting for Sunni Dominated Pakistan?

you have something to back this claim up or was it a heat of the moment sweeping statement?

They are not merely cannon fodder because they are not as stupid as you think and since they are the ones who actually put their lives on the line, they must have well thought out reasons for why they did what they did.

are you sure they are not cannon fodder? you seem to know alot about them as it seems! is it true that those from Pakistan and afghanistan are not allowed to be buried in the 'pasdaran' graveyard? That is what I have come to know about these people who went to fight in irani proxies! maybe you know it to be false?

 

[El Sidd]

How do you know if they are fighting for "another country"/Iran OR Shia Islam? They share common religion with Iran and took monthly payment, so its religion + economic contract. Not only brainwashing. Maybe Pakistani Shia think fighting with Iran is better than fighting for Sunni Dominated Pakistan?


They are not merely cannon fodder because they are not as stupid as you think and since they are the ones who actually put their lives on the line, they must have well thought out reasons for why they did what they did. Why dont you ask and learn more from them?? Also, true, Shia have to be more proactive in defending themselves and their holy sites.

do you recruit them online?

 

[El Sidd]

you have a large Mexican community in your country so if they go of to fight for mexico would that be ok? what are the laws for yanks fighting for another country?

you have something to back this claim up or was it a heat of the moment sweeping statement?

are you sure they are not cannon fodder? you seem to know alot about them as it seems! is it true that those from Pakistan and afghanistan are not allowed to be buried in the 'pasdaran' graveyard? That is what I have come to know about these people who went to fight in irani proxies! maybe you know it to be false?

leave him to me

 

[Path-Finder]

leave him to me

ok.

 

[Imad.Khan]

This is the proper way to deal with these traitors. They should have their citizenship revoked and their families, contacts should be investigated thoroughly.

I am glad that I don't feel like I am the only one talking about Zanabiyoun anymore. We should have done something about this in the beginning.

Time to investigate all Imambaras associated with such individuals, find their recruiters, helpers, agents, and give them severe punishments (even death penalty.)

We are an Islamic state which believes in the unity of Muslims, both Sunni and Shia, and this is a betrayal of our founding ideology to have a foreign country use our citizens to murder innocent Sunnis in Syria and Iraq.

Zanabiyoun and Fatimayoun are known as the most radical and brutal of all Iranian militias in these two countries, who knows how many innocents they have tortured, raped, or killed.

Shame on these people.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1168885393669967874

https://twitter.com/x/status/1168885314775072769

https://twitter.com/x/status/1168884668181229568

https://twitter.com/x/status/1168884508600557568

As far as i know, they were fighting ISIS, if that is true then i have no issues with them, infact i will truely support them. However if they were being used to kill innocent people just like ISIS was then thats a totally different thing.

I have a few Iranians at work and like majority of them that live outside of Iran, they are very anti-mullah. I will ask them what they know about Liwa Zainabyoun

 

[Pax Pakistanica]

As far as i know, they were fighting ISIS, if that is true then i have no issues with them, infact i will truely support them. However if they were being used to kill innocent people just like ISIS was then thats a totally different thing.

I have a few Iranians at work and like majority of them that live outside of Iran, they are very anti-mullah. I will ask them what they know about Liwa Zainabyoun

They have taken part in the Siege of Aleppo, wherein countless innocent Syrian families were starved and killed by the Russian, Iranian, and SAR forces. Others fled West into the Idlib province. Whoever says that these Pakistani Shias are only there to protect their holy shrines in Syria are brainless fools. Their actions have resulted in the terrorist Sunni group "Lashkar-e-Jhangvi" to kill 23 people in Parachinar for taking "revenge for the crimes against Syrian Muslims by Iran and Bashar al-Assad" and a straight out warning to the city to not send more Shia soldiers on the Syrian frontlines.

"they were fighting ISIS, if that is true then i have no issues with them, infact i will truely support them"

Al-Qaeda and many other Sunni factions have fought the Islamic State of Syria and Iraq.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Aleppo_(2012–2016)
(I'd like to mention that the support from the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria to the opposition was being given to a certain faction which later paid allegiance to the "Caliph" and ceased to be a part of the Free Syrian front.)

 

[Imad.Khan]

They have taken part in the Siege of Aleppo, wherein countless innocent Syrian families were starved and killed by the Russian, Iranian, and SAR forces. Others fled West into the Idlib province. Whoever says that these Pakistani Safavis are there to protect shrines in Syria are brainless fools.

"they were fighting ISIS, if that is true then i have no issues with them, infact i will truely support them"

Al-Qaeda and many other Sunni factions have fought the Islamic State of Syria and Iraq.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Aleppo_(2012–2016)

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Al-Qaeda isn't against ISIS, even the wiki page that you shared on the first couple of line says says " al-Qaeda-affiliated al-Nusra Front" was on the ISIS side.

And again in the same page it doesn't mention any units of Liwa Zainabyoun taking part in the fight

Whoever says that these Pakistani Shias are only there to protect their holy shrines in Syria are brainless fools.

Al-Qaeda and many other Sunni factions have fought the Islamic State of Syria and Iraq.

Before you hand out the verdict of brainless fools to others, please make sure that you have all the correct information yourself and that you are not being biased.

P.S. wikipedia is not the best source to use

 

[Pax Pakistanica]

Al-Qaeda isn't against ISIS, even the wiki page that you shared on the first couple of line says says " al-Qaeda-affiliated al-Nusra Front" was on the ISIS side.

And again in the same page it doesn't mention any units of Liwa Zainabyoun taking part in the fight

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Before you hand out the verdict of brainless fools to others, please make sure that you have all the correct information yourself and that you are not being biased.

P.S. wikipedia is not the best source to use

If you read into the history between Al-Nusra Front, and the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, you will find that the latter declared their faction to be guilty of apostasy after they separated from them and were in constant conflicts with one another. As I mentioned earlier, some factions paid allegiance to the ISIL, consequently leaving or sticking with them and being removed from the Free Syrian front. I understand that both Shia and Sunni factions are responsible for much bloodshed on both sides, but it is ridiculous to say that one is merely "protecting Shia shrines".

Regarding Pakistani Shias taking part in Aleppo, Zainabiyoun along Fatimaeyoun brigade operations are often carried out in secret for the protection of its members. Check out the Institute for the Study of War, my dude.

 

[Imad.Khan]

If you read into the history between Al-Nusra Front, and the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, you will find that the latter declared their faction to be guilty of apostasy after they separated from them and were in constant conflicts with one another. As I mentioned earlier, some factions paid allegiance to the ISIL, consequently leaving or sticking with them and being removed from the Free Syrian front. I understand that both Shia and Sunni factions are responsible for much bloodshed on both sides, but it is ridiculous to say that one is merely "protecting Shia shrines".

Regarding Pakistani Shias taking part in Aleppo, Zainabiyoun along Fatimaeyoun operations are often carried out in secret for the protection of its members. Check out the Institute for the Study of War.

All i am saying is that we need to be sure before we hand out a judgement, anyways i will do some research and will also check that Institute for the Study of War. Cheers mate