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Libya: Qaddhafi Violates Ceasefire, Foreign Forces Mount Attack

And there's not a single reliable source proving it's "propaganda".

Do you like being in denial?
That's not how it works.

If you claim something you have to provide a reliable source not me one that disproves it, that would be ridiculous.

"You president is secretly a dragon transformed into a human with magic powers"
disprove it!

Are you getting paid for this? It is getting pathetic..
 
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That's not how it works.

If you claim something you have to provide a reliable source not me one that disproves it, that would be ridiculous.

"You president is secretly a dragon transformed into a human with magic powers"
disprove it!

Are you getting paid for this? It is getting pathetic..

Oh, so GlobalResearch isn't a "reliable source"? Then what is? The US media, which has most likely censored or left out the matter?

You yourself are making a claim that GlobalResearch puts out propaganda. Well, guess what? PROVE IT.
 
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21 March 2011 Last updated at 02:08 GMT
Missile destroys Gaddafi building

A missile strike on Libyan leader Col Gaddafi's compound in Tripoli has destroyed a building which coalition officials said was a command centre.

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Journalists were shown the wrecked building but it was not clear if there were any casualties.

It comes as a coalition of countries including the US, UK and France continue strikes to enforce a UN-mandated no-fly zone over Libya.

Col Gaddafi has been fighting a rebellion that broke out last month.

US officials have said Col Gaddafi himself is not a target of the air strikes, which they say are aimed at his armed forces and air defence systems.

'Very effective'

On Sunday night anti-aircraft fire rose over Tripoli and several explosions were heard. A BBC reporter saw a column of smoke rising from the direction of Bab al-Aziziya, where Col Gaddafi has his military base and compound.

Western journalists taken by Libyan officials to the compound were shown a ruined three or four-storey building that the Libyans said had been bombed by the allied forces.

An official from one of the coalition countries, who asked not to be named, told journalists the strike destroyed Col Gaddafi's "command and control capability".

Earlier at the Pentagon, Navy Vice Adm William Gortney said the military action, which began on Saturday, had been "very effective in significantly degrading the regime's air defence capability".

He said ground forces moving on rebel positions were also open to attack. But he added that neither Col Gaddafi nor his residence would be targeted.

A US official cast doubt on a Libyan government claim that its armed forces were observing a ceasefire, despite claims to that effect on Friday and Sunday.

President Barack Obama's national security adviser Tom Donilon said the ceasefire "isn't true or has been immediately violated".

The BBC's Allan Little in Tripoli says pro-Gaddafi troops have tried to enter Benghazi and have been in action at Misrata.

A rebel spokesman in Misrata told the BBC that pro-Gaddafi forces had launched fresh attacks on Sunday with heavy shelling.

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Libyan people has to support the war, without support, it will fail. This is Obama's war. He can't stick it on Bush. Sarkozy will run the very moment he thinks he is in trouble with Cameron not too far behind. .
 
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Allies’ Lack of Exit Plan Risks Splitting Libya, Qaddafi Staying
March 21, 2011, 12:14 AM EDT

By Leon Mangasarian

March 21 (Bloomberg) -- Allied military leaders said the attack on Libya may end without dislodging Muammar Qaddafi, pointing to the risk of splitting up the country and the absence of a clear exit strategy, analysts said.

Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, and British Defense Secretary Liam Fox, said Qaddafi’s ouster wasn’t the aim of the campaign, whose stated goal is to protect civilians from a potential onslaught.

“It’s like someone rushing to action in the movies -- It looks good but it doesn’t work in real life,” Jan Techau, director of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Brussels and a former analyst at the NATO Defense College in Rome, said in an interview. “You can’t have an exit strategy without having goals, and we don’t know what the goals are in Libya.”

The coalition ordered Qaddafi to withdraw his forces from major cities after weeks of fighting with rebels that has left hundreds dead in the bloodiest of popular uprisings to have swept the Middle East this year. Mullen said a no-fly zone was in place as Qaddafi vowed to repel allied forces.

The priority is to stop Qaddafi “brutalizing” his own people and not to implement “regime change,” Fox told the BBC’s “Politics Show” in London yesterday, adding that the Libyan leader could well “hunker down” and remain in the country.

Mullen said “the goals of this campaign right now again are limited and isn’t about seeing” Qaddafi go. Asked in an NBC “Meet the Press” interview yesterday if the mission could be accomplished with Qaddafi still in power, Mullen said: “That’s certainly potentially one outcome.”

Dividing Country

The conflict might lead to the division of Libya, the holder of Africa’s biggest oil reserves, between liberated parts and Qaddafi-ruled territory, said Volker Perthes, director of the German Institute for International and Security Affairs in Berlin.

“There’s an historic analogy to this: The no-fly zones set up in northern Iraq after the first Gulf War which allowed the Kurds to set up an autonomous region,” Perthes said.

Iraqi Kurdistan achieved virtual independence after the first Gulf War in 1991, when the U.S. established a no-fly zone over the area that lasted until the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

With Libya being pounded by Tomahawk Cruise missiles and bombing runs by U.S., French, British and Canadian jets, choking off Qaddafi’s finances and oil exports may be the quickest way to force out the Libyan leader.

‘Decisive Screws’

“Cash and oil are the decisive screws that can be tightened to ratchet up pressure on the regime,” Perthes, whose institute advises the German government, said in a telephone interview.

“If this happens, it’s a matter of months and not years,” Perthes said. “Qaddafi needs dollars to pay mercenaries from Mali or Niger. They want cash, not transfers to Swiss accounts. If the boycott holds, the Libyan currency will sink and won’t be accepted.”

In the 1999 Kosovo War, it took 78 days of air strikes by NATO forces to bring about Serbia’s withdrawal from Kosovo, General Sir Mike Jackson, Britain’s former military chief, said in a Sky News interview.

“Cutting off Qaddafi’s oil and money is absolutely crucial,” Shada Islam, a Middle East and Asia expert at the Friends of Europe policy-advisory group in Brussels, said in a telephone interview. “This can’t just be a military operation.”

Oil Output

Shokri Ghanem, the chairman of Libya’s National Oil Corp., said March 19 that Libyan oil production has slumped to less than 400,000 barrels a day and “could reach a halt.” Daily supply from Africa’s third-largest producer was 1.58 million barrels in January, according to the Paris-based International Energy Agency.

The United Nations Security Council last month voted to freeze the assets of Qaddafi and key aides. The European Union earlier this month extended sanctions against Qaddafi’s regime to the Libyan Investment Authority and the central bank. The Bank of Italy on March 14 took control of Banca UBAE SpA, the Rome-based trade-financing bank owned by Libya’s central bank. UBAE had 3.1 billion euros ($4.4 billion) of deposits at the end of 2009.

President Barack Obama and the leaders of France, the U.K. and other Western nations have said that Qaddafi must go. The Arab League backed the no-fly zone imposed on Libya, and Qatar’s leader said today it will deploy its jets with the allies.

Qaddafi’s Response

“If Qaddafi’s forces begin to roll back and the rebels advance, then, potentially, that is a process that could drive Qaddafi from power,” Anthony Cordesman, senior defense analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said in a telephone interview on March 19.

If ground forces hold, he said, “then it gets to be a lot harder, and the question is, can some combination of the rebels and allied air power drive Qaddafi out of the capability of using his forces, and eventually from power, or will the U.S. have to go from providing these command and control and intelligence assets, and striking at surface-to-air missiles, to a much more direct form of intervention? At this point none of us know.”

Qaddafi reacted with defiance to the strikes vowing his country would become hell for the “monsters” attacking it.

“We will not leave our oil to America or France or Britain or the enemy Christian states that are aligned now against us,” the Libyan leader, who has ruled since 1969, said on state television yesterday. “We will not leave our land. We will fight for every inch of our land and liberate every inch of it.”

Jackson, the British general, said he didn’t think there was much chance of “Qaddafi throwing in the towel.”

“There may be action taken against him from within Libya itself,” Jackson said in the Sky News television interview.

--With assistance from Kitty Donaldson in London, Alaa Shahine in Dubai and Flavia Krause-Jackson in Rome. Editors: James Hertling, Ann Hughey

To contact the reporters on this story: Leon Mangasarian in Berlin at lmangasarian@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: James Hertling at jhertling@bloomberg.net
 
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The German foreign minister has been justifying Berlin's decision not to take part in operations in Libya in an interview with Der Spiegel.

Asked whether inaction made Germany just as guilty as military intervention, Guido Westerwelle answered: "The alternative to military operations is hardly inaction. After examining the repercussions of a military mission, with all of its uncertainties, which could possibly go as far as deploying ground troops and maintaining a military presence for years, I came to the following conclusion: No, we will not take part with German troops, no matter how honourable the motives of our partners who have decided differently."

He also said it is understandable that the rebels have asked for support.

But why is it the west that is primarily responsible and not the countries of the region, above all the Arab League? Incidentally, we Germans have already had discussions with the Libyan opposition. But we also asked them if they were looking to introduce a clan-based society or a democratic society with free and fair elections. These are justified questions

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Forces loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi are "bringing civilians from nearby towns to the rebel-held city of Misrata to use as human shields", Reuters is reporting.

The news agency quoted a rebel spokesman in Misrata, but said the report could not be independently verified.

"The Misrata resident also told Reuters that armed pro-Gaddafi forces, dressed in civilian clothes, were in the centre of the city. He said the city, 200 km (130 miles) east of Tripoli, was surrounded by Gaddafi's troops and water supplies were still cut off."
 
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11.26am GMT: My colleague Barry Neild writes that defence secretary Liam Fox has said Gaddafi could become a direct target of coalition air strikes – apparently contradicting Pentagon officials who maintain that taking out Libyan leader is not an option.

Asked if Gaddafi might be considered a target, Fox told BBC Radio 5: "That would potentially be a possibility," provided there was no risk of civilian casualties.
"We are very careful to avoid [civilian casualties] for humanitarian reasons," he said. "Also for the propaganda reasons that it would provide for the regime itself."

There's debate in our comments section, Barry says, about the consequences of Fox's statement calling Gaddafi a legitimate target despite US insistence he is not


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Some readers' rsponse to the above interview:

riggers1 writes:

"Did anyone else hear Liam Fox Defence Secretary go 'off message' today. He said the UN was targetting Gaddafi. This statement underlines how inexperienced Liam is on the diplomatic front, as well as the legal front.

To target the Libyan leader directly is not part of the UN mandate and would therefore not be legal. Also this explicit statement drives a further wedge into a shakey alliance.

Imagine you are US defence secretary flying to Moscow to try and keep the Russians on side, and you hear that. I suspect there were a few harsh words spoken."

climatecheerleader adds: "... I'm willing to bet Obama called Cameron to find out why Liam Fox is "off the reservation" and saying something that the Pentagon just denied... This could be a major problem especially if there are civilian casualties and if they lose the support of the Arab League ... if they happen to kill Gaddafi is better than directly going after him."

Abethdin writes: "Liam Fox may have talked out of turn, but he's surely right; the only real solution is to remove Ghaddafi ... that is to say, to remove the cause of the war, which is their desire to hold onto the vast assets they've stolen."
 
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Col Muammar Gaddafi's Bab al-Aziziya compound in Tripoli has been hit by an air strike launched by a coalition of countries seeking to impose a UN-mandated no-fly zone in Libya. It is unclear whether supporters inside the compound at the time - and Col Gaddafi himself, whose whereabouts are unknown - were hurt.



The barrage of strikes began on Saturday.


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Bodies of pro-Gaddafi fighters have been found around their destroyed tanks on the road leading to Benghazi.


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The military strikes followed a UN Security Council resolution that approved the use of force to protect civilians in Libya.


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Anti-war activists in several different countries - including these students in the Philippine capital - have also decried the coalition action. Many fear this may be the start of another another drawn-out conflict such as that which began with the invasion of Iraq by US-led forces in 2003.
 
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is he really dead? any source qouting that?

Gaddafi's son dies in hospital: Report

One of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's sons has died in a hospital in Tripoli, opposition websites and Arab media reported on Monday. Khamis Gaddafi was reportedly injured on Saturday when a Libyan Air Force pilot purposefully crashed his jet into the Bab al-Aziziya compound in Tripoli where Gaddafi and some of his relatives are staying.

Khamis died of burn wounds sustained during the attack, the Arabian Business News website reported.
 
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Jesus christ, do you listen to what you`re saying? What about the THOUSANDS of dead Libyan Arabs since this started? No sympathy for them because they "must be supported by the Israelis and the US"?

However, the west in into Libya's civil war.

Even the rebels win finally, I doubt Libyan people will either like or support a new government that just invited foreign powers to bomb themselves.

BTW, if the war prolongs, the west had better no ask the rebels to pay for those bombs.

About those justifications, well, Libya is just so weak without much voice in the world. I bet the west justified their causes during those opium wars, burning down the emperor's garden and etc.

If the west really care democracy, first, get rid of the saudi and yemen's top rulers first.
 
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Libyan people has to support the war, without support, it will fail. This is Obama's war. He can't stick it on Bush. Sarkozy will run the very moment he thinks he is in trouble with Cameron not too far behind. .

Sarkozy is really such a hypocrite. I bet he cares nothing about those Libyan people instead of his oil $.
 
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Gaddafi's son dies in hospital: Report

One of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's sons has died in a hospital in Tripoli, opposition websites and Arab media reported on Monday. Khamis Gaddafi was reportedly injured on Saturday when a Libyan Air Force pilot purposefully crashed his jet into the Bab al-Aziziya compound in Tripoli where Gaddafi and some of his relatives are staying.

Khamis died of burn wounds sustained during the attack, the Arabian Business News website reported.

No international media is reporting the same.. May be a rumor. In these circumstances, lot of rumors keeps on circulating.. One has to take the news with a pinch of salt.
 
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