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They wouldn't need three B2s for 40 bombs.
Libya: Qaddhafi Violates Ceasefire, Foreign Forces Mount Attack
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They wouldn't need three B2s for 40 bombs.
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Another invasion by the Wall Street regime. Some Iraqi traitor slaves are encouraging this. They're no better than the Jews who sold other Jews to the Nazis and Chinese Japanese collaborators. No wonder then that Israel has continuously dominated the arabs and bombed them back to the stone age despite numerical weakness. Arabs are so willing to become slaves to others, they'll accept chains without question.
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I've continuously stated that the arabs have no balls whatsoever. They run to the US for money. Then go against eachother for the same money. And then watch their own brothers being slaughtered.
What an utterly hypocritical state the US is. No wonder it's hated so much in the world. Look what's going on in Bahrain, yet these guys keep that off the burner. The only difference between Bahrain and Libya's case is that Libya is ruled by someone that dislikes the west whereas Bahrain is an ally of the US. It will be a great day when this utterly hypocritical scum of a state gets wiped off the face of the earth. It is perhaps the greatest obstacle for peace, particularly in middle east and muslim world. A state that feels it can attack whoever it wants to attack merely because the other does not do what the US says.
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The issue is not the Arabs. Its the regimes in those land. There is a diffrence between what the regimes think and what the people think.
Well only the initial salvos been fired. Its another mission without an endgame. Are the Libyans going to rally behind Gaddafi or they will side with the so call rebels ? We will find out very soon.
Its going to be a while before we find out the winners and losers of this.
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Women have often stayed off the streets of east Libya during the uprising against Gaddafi for reasons of safety and religion, but this lady is most definitely not hiding indoor
According to Reuters, she is a rebel fighter celebrating the withdrawal of Gaddafi troops from Benghazi on Saturday.
According to Reuters, she is a rebel fighter celebrating the withdrawal of Gaddafi troops from Benghazi on Saturday.
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A Tripoli resident, Sami, explained to the BBC why he still supported Col Gaddafi. "We've been living in peace and harmony for 42 years. He changed the situation of Libyan people. We were living in tin huts, we didn't have cars, we couldn't go to school, no hospitals, no education - he brought that all to us. A Libyan can raise his head high and be proud of himself," he said.
The BBC's Allan Little in Tripoli says that despite a loud barrage of anti-aircraft fire at 0230 Libya's capital this morning is relatively calm, with traffic moving around as normal, although the atmosphere is quite tense. That is not to say targets on the periphery of the city have not been hit: State TV says 48 civilians have been killed and more than 100 wounded; last night the speaker of the parliament said hospitals were filling up and that there had been a bombardment of a civilian part of the city, but there's been no independent confirmation of that.
Our correspondent in Tripoli says reporters in Libya's capital are working under severely restricted circumstances and can't go out independently. It's easy to find people swearing undying loyalty to Col Gaddafi, he says, and there's no doubting their sincerity. But you wonder what's in the heads of the many millions who do not take part in these angry demonstrations of support for the leader. All other voices are drowned out by that intense and passionate voice of loyalty in which the person of Gaddafi is fused with the very identity of Libya itself.
More from Tripoli resident Sami. He said "nothing was going on" in the city and people were going to work as normal. "People are trained for this confrontation, we have been bombed by the US in 1986. We're not pleased, this is double standards. When Gaza was attacked by the Israeli army the whole world was watching. This is a matter of oil." He said the rebellion was a mixture of, "tradition, hate and corruption". "Some of these people have an agenda. They want to ruin Libya and pull it down."
The BBC's Allan Little in Tripoli says that despite a loud barrage of anti-aircraft fire at 0230 Libya's capital this morning is relatively calm, with traffic moving around as normal, although the atmosphere is quite tense. That is not to say targets on the periphery of the city have not been hit: State TV says 48 civilians have been killed and more than 100 wounded; last night the speaker of the parliament said hospitals were filling up and that there had been a bombardment of a civilian part of the city, but there's been no independent confirmation of that.
Our correspondent in Tripoli says reporters in Libya's capital are working under severely restricted circumstances and can't go out independently. It's easy to find people swearing undying loyalty to Col Gaddafi, he says, and there's no doubting their sincerity. But you wonder what's in the heads of the many millions who do not take part in these angry demonstrations of support for the leader. All other voices are drowned out by that intense and passionate voice of loyalty in which the person of Gaddafi is fused with the very identity of Libya itself.
More from Tripoli resident Sami. He said "nothing was going on" in the city and people were going to work as normal. "People are trained for this confrontation, we have been bombed by the US in 1986. We're not pleased, this is double standards. When Gaza was attacked by the Israeli army the whole world was watching. This is a matter of oil." He said the rebellion was a mixture of, "tradition, hate and corruption". "Some of these people have an agenda. They want to ruin Libya and pull it down."
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World Affairs Correspondent David Loyn says that from the first moment that French warplanes hit tanks and other Libyan government vehicles on the ground on Saturday, it was clear the assault on Libya was about more than just a no fly zone. Some 110 Cruise missiles were launched from US warships and a Royal Navy submarine, and Tornados, supported by mid-air refuelling planes, flew the longest RAF bombing raid since the Falklands war in 1982. In this early stage of the campaign targets have focused on what are called C3I - command, control, communications and intelligence, in an effort to disrupt the ability of the Libyan government to continue offensive operations against the rebels in the east.
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Missiles and planes strike Libya
A joint operation to enforce a UN-backed no-fly zone over Libya has begun. Here we look at some of the British and French fighter jets and reconnaissance aircraft likely to be involved.
UK AIRCRAFT
Typhoon - Eurofighter
The RAF's Typhoon, or Eurofighter, is an agile aircraft which could be used in air-to-air combat if the Libyan airforce tries to get airborne.
Typhoons were built to criteria set by the UK, Spain, Germany and Italy to replace the Tornado fighter. It boasts stealth technology and weapons systems include medium and short-range air-to-air missiles and various air-to-ground weapons.
The Typhoon entered service with the RAF in 2003, primarily based at RAF Coningsby in Lincolnshire and RAF Leuchars in Scotland. It has also been operational in the Falkland Islands since September 2009.
Typhoon
Crew: 1
Speed: 2 Mach
Weapons: Air-to-air missiles (AMRAAM, ASRAAM),Brimstone, Enhanced Paveway, Paveway IV
Tornado
The Tornado has been one of the mainstays of the RAF since first entering service in 1980 and the aircraft were used to enforce no-fly zones in Iraq.
It is mainly used as a strike or attack aircraft and could have a key role in taking out Libyan surface-to-air missile systems.
Weapons such as the Storm Shadow cruise missile mean that the Tornado can hit targets from a significant distance. The MoD describes the missile as being designed for "long range, highly accurate, deep penetration" against enemy command and control bunkers. It is fired from a Tornado GR4.
Tornado GR4s are also equipped with Brimstone missiles, an effective anti-armour weapon and can also be used for all-weather, day and night tactical reconnaissance.
Tornado GR4
Crew: 2
Max speed: 1.3 Mach
Weapons: Storm Shadow, Brimstone, ALARM, AIM-9 Sidewinder, Paveway II, Paveway III, Enhanced Paveway, General Purpose Bombs, Mauser 27mm cannon
Source: RAF
Nimrod
Nimrod R1 reconnaissance aircraft, derivative of the maritime patrol version, are expected to be involved in surveillance operations.
The suite of monitoring systems are used for reconnaissance and gathering electronic intelligence. It can sit over an area, flying at low speeds for long periods - which can be extended by mid-air refuelling.
The Nimrod R1s are operated by No 51 Squadron, from RAF Waddington.
Nimrod R1
Crew: 29
Speed: 360 knots
Sentinel
The Sentinel R1 aircraft, used in intelligence operations in Afghanistan, is also expected to be used in any Libya mission.
It is part of the Sentinel system which is made up of air, land and support segments.
The aircraft are converted Bombardier Global Express aircraft which are fitted with radar and monitoring systems which can be used to track and target enemy ground forces.
The reconnaissance aircraft is scheduled to be scrapped after the UK withdraws its forces from Afghanistan.
Sentinel R1
Crew: 5
Speed: 0.89 Mach
Systems: Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) and Ground Moving Target Indicator (GMTI)
A joint operation to enforce a UN-backed no-fly zone over Libya has begun. Here we look at some of the British and French fighter jets and reconnaissance aircraft likely to be involved.
UK AIRCRAFT
Typhoon - Eurofighter
The RAF's Typhoon, or Eurofighter, is an agile aircraft which could be used in air-to-air combat if the Libyan airforce tries to get airborne.
Typhoons were built to criteria set by the UK, Spain, Germany and Italy to replace the Tornado fighter. It boasts stealth technology and weapons systems include medium and short-range air-to-air missiles and various air-to-ground weapons.
The Typhoon entered service with the RAF in 2003, primarily based at RAF Coningsby in Lincolnshire and RAF Leuchars in Scotland. It has also been operational in the Falkland Islands since September 2009.
Typhoon
Crew: 1
Speed: 2 Mach
Weapons: Air-to-air missiles (AMRAAM, ASRAAM),Brimstone, Enhanced Paveway, Paveway IV
Tornado
The Tornado has been one of the mainstays of the RAF since first entering service in 1980 and the aircraft were used to enforce no-fly zones in Iraq.
It is mainly used as a strike or attack aircraft and could have a key role in taking out Libyan surface-to-air missile systems.
Weapons such as the Storm Shadow cruise missile mean that the Tornado can hit targets from a significant distance. The MoD describes the missile as being designed for "long range, highly accurate, deep penetration" against enemy command and control bunkers. It is fired from a Tornado GR4.
Tornado GR4s are also equipped with Brimstone missiles, an effective anti-armour weapon and can also be used for all-weather, day and night tactical reconnaissance.
Tornado GR4
Crew: 2
Max speed: 1.3 Mach
Weapons: Storm Shadow, Brimstone, ALARM, AIM-9 Sidewinder, Paveway II, Paveway III, Enhanced Paveway, General Purpose Bombs, Mauser 27mm cannon
Source: RAF
Nimrod
Nimrod R1 reconnaissance aircraft, derivative of the maritime patrol version, are expected to be involved in surveillance operations.
The suite of monitoring systems are used for reconnaissance and gathering electronic intelligence. It can sit over an area, flying at low speeds for long periods - which can be extended by mid-air refuelling.
The Nimrod R1s are operated by No 51 Squadron, from RAF Waddington.
Nimrod R1
Crew: 29
Speed: 360 knots
Sentinel
The Sentinel R1 aircraft, used in intelligence operations in Afghanistan, is also expected to be used in any Libya mission.
It is part of the Sentinel system which is made up of air, land and support segments.
The aircraft are converted Bombardier Global Express aircraft which are fitted with radar and monitoring systems which can be used to track and target enemy ground forces.
The reconnaissance aircraft is scheduled to be scrapped after the UK withdraws its forces from Afghanistan.
Sentinel R1
Crew: 5
Speed: 0.89 Mach
Systems: Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) and Ground Moving Target Indicator (GMTI)
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FRENCH AIRCRAFT
France is clearly one of the key players in this crisis.
In diplomatic terms it has been one of the main promoters of UN Security Council resolution 1973 allowing the use of force. French aircraft, thought to be Rafale fighters, according to reports from Paris, have been the first to operate over Libya ensuring, according to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, that Libyan government aircraft cannot operate over the Benghazi.
Dassault Rafale
The Dassault Rafale is a multi-role, twin-engined delta wing aircraft capable of mounting air defence, ground attack, and reconnaissance missions.
It is operated by the French Air Force and a variant of the plane is the mainstay of the French Navy, operating from the carrier Charles de Gaulle.
The Rafale carries a sophisticated electronic survival system named Spectra. It can detect and track up to eight targets simultaneously and generate 3D maps for navigation and targeting.
Dassault Rafale
Crew: 1/2
Speech: 1.8 Mach
Weapons: Air-to-ground missile, including Apache and Exocet, air-to-air missiles and anti-ship missiles
Mirage 2000
Again a multi-role fighter, the descendant of the famous Mirage III of the 1960s. Entered service in 1982 but some were extensively modernised in the late 1980s to fill a gap until the Rafale entered service. There is also a strike version of the aircraft, the Mirage 2000D.
Mirage 2000
Crew: 1/2
Speed: 2.2 Mach
Weapons: built-in twin DEFA 554 30mm revolver-type cannons. Air-to-air missiles
Mirage F1
This is an older model from the Mirage stable, the first aircraft entering service in 1983. While there are several variants, the most important in current front-line service is the Mirage F1CR which is a highly specialised reconnaissance platform carrying cameras, and optical and electronic sensors.
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CANADIAN AIRCRAFT
CF-18 Hornet
The Canadian Armed Forces' front-line multi-role fighter used for air superiority and tactical support (pictured here is the US version).
Canada has committed six Hornets to help enforce the no-fly zone. The Canadian jets were seen at Prestwick airport in Scotland on Saturday where they landed for a refuelling stop before heading towards the Mediterranean.
The aircraft is equipped with a sophisticated radar system that can track targets in all weather and from great distances. A Sniper Advanced Targeting pod, which contains an infra-red (heat-sensitive) camera and TV camera, allows pilots to see targets at night and in low visibility conditions.
The pod also has a laser designator to guide precision bombing, and a laser spot tracker. The newly acquired Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS) allows the pilot to effectively designate targets anywhere around the aircraft.
CF-18 Hornet
Crew: 1/2
Speed: 1.7 Mach
Weapons: Vulcan cannon. Four AIM-9M Sidewinders - supersonic, heat-seeking air-to-air missiles
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Tomohawk cruise missile
The Tomahawk Cruise missile is 20 feet long and flies at more than 700 mph for a range of about 1,000 miles, close enough to the ground to take enemy air defences by surprise.
Continue reading the main story
Tomahawk missile
Long-range weapon designed to hit strategic targets with minimum collateral damage
Able to deliver 1,000lb (450kg) warhead to a range of about 1,000 miles (1,600km)
Can fly at low or high altitude
Source: Ministry of Defence
It was originally developed to deliver a nuclear payload, but proved its use in the two Allied wars against Saddam Hussein's Iraq, and against Serbian targets in Bosnia as a means of delivering conventional explosives.
Each missile usually carries a 1000lb charge, specially shaped to penetrate hardened concrete buildings
France is clearly one of the key players in this crisis.
In diplomatic terms it has been one of the main promoters of UN Security Council resolution 1973 allowing the use of force. French aircraft, thought to be Rafale fighters, according to reports from Paris, have been the first to operate over Libya ensuring, according to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, that Libyan government aircraft cannot operate over the Benghazi.
Dassault Rafale
The Dassault Rafale is a multi-role, twin-engined delta wing aircraft capable of mounting air defence, ground attack, and reconnaissance missions.
It is operated by the French Air Force and a variant of the plane is the mainstay of the French Navy, operating from the carrier Charles de Gaulle.
The Rafale carries a sophisticated electronic survival system named Spectra. It can detect and track up to eight targets simultaneously and generate 3D maps for navigation and targeting.
Dassault Rafale
Crew: 1/2
Speech: 1.8 Mach
Weapons: Air-to-ground missile, including Apache and Exocet, air-to-air missiles and anti-ship missiles
Mirage 2000
Again a multi-role fighter, the descendant of the famous Mirage III of the 1960s. Entered service in 1982 but some were extensively modernised in the late 1980s to fill a gap until the Rafale entered service. There is also a strike version of the aircraft, the Mirage 2000D.
Mirage 2000
Crew: 1/2
Speed: 2.2 Mach
Weapons: built-in twin DEFA 554 30mm revolver-type cannons. Air-to-air missiles
Mirage F1
This is an older model from the Mirage stable, the first aircraft entering service in 1983. While there are several variants, the most important in current front-line service is the Mirage F1CR which is a highly specialised reconnaissance platform carrying cameras, and optical and electronic sensors.
---------- Post added at 12:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:21 PM ----------
CANADIAN AIRCRAFT
CF-18 Hornet
The Canadian Armed Forces' front-line multi-role fighter used for air superiority and tactical support (pictured here is the US version).
Canada has committed six Hornets to help enforce the no-fly zone. The Canadian jets were seen at Prestwick airport in Scotland on Saturday where they landed for a refuelling stop before heading towards the Mediterranean.
The aircraft is equipped with a sophisticated radar system that can track targets in all weather and from great distances. A Sniper Advanced Targeting pod, which contains an infra-red (heat-sensitive) camera and TV camera, allows pilots to see targets at night and in low visibility conditions.
The pod also has a laser designator to guide precision bombing, and a laser spot tracker. The newly acquired Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS) allows the pilot to effectively designate targets anywhere around the aircraft.
CF-18 Hornet
Crew: 1/2
Speed: 1.7 Mach
Weapons: Vulcan cannon. Four AIM-9M Sidewinders - supersonic, heat-seeking air-to-air missiles
---------- Post added at 12:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:22 PM ----------
Tomohawk cruise missile
The Tomahawk Cruise missile is 20 feet long and flies at more than 700 mph for a range of about 1,000 miles, close enough to the ground to take enemy air defences by surprise.
Continue reading the main story
Tomahawk missile
Long-range weapon designed to hit strategic targets with minimum collateral damage
Able to deliver 1,000lb (450kg) warhead to a range of about 1,000 miles (1,600km)
Can fly at low or high altitude
Source: Ministry of Defence
It was originally developed to deliver a nuclear payload, but proved its use in the two Allied wars against Saddam Hussein's Iraq, and against Serbian targets in Bosnia as a means of delivering conventional explosives.
Each missile usually carries a 1000lb charge, specially shaped to penetrate hardened concrete buildings
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9.02am: Military commanders this morning will be starting to view satellite pictures to see how successful the attacks have been in knocking out Libya's air defences, according to Associated Press. It gives some idea of what sort of targets were attacked.
Hours after US and British ships pounded Libya with precision missiles, American officials are eager to confirm that the damage was extensive enough to allow air patrols to protect civilians being targeted by embattled strongman Muammar Gaddafi.
Military officials said that as Sunday dawned in Libya, satellites would give commanders a better view of the expected destruction along the country's coastline. US and British ships launched the first phase of the missile assault Saturday, raining 112 Tomahawk cruise missiles on to more than 20 radar systems, communications centers and surface-to-air missile sites
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Libyan state TV quotes the country's foreign ministry as saying Libya will "use military and civilian aircraft in self-defence".
Hours after US and British ships pounded Libya with precision missiles, American officials are eager to confirm that the damage was extensive enough to allow air patrols to protect civilians being targeted by embattled strongman Muammar Gaddafi.
Military officials said that as Sunday dawned in Libya, satellites would give commanders a better view of the expected destruction along the country's coastline. US and British ships launched the first phase of the missile assault Saturday, raining 112 Tomahawk cruise missiles on to more than 20 radar systems, communications centers and surface-to-air missile sites
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Libyan state TV quotes the country's foreign ministry as saying Libya will "use military and civilian aircraft in self-defence".
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