Libya and Turkey sign two agreements on hydrocarbons

[MMM-E]

Your government seems to be obsessed with Greece and especially Kastellorizo.

the exact opposite

Greek government seems to be obsessed with MAVI VATAN and especially Orucreis , Abdulhamid Han and other Turkish research and drilling Ships

we have our own agenda and we dont care about anyone

 

[Akritas]

They don't read what we show them. I had to show him the same text 3 times and he didn't even understand the point.

It's obvious, they're either trolling or biased. It doesn't matter, we continue to deposit evidence, facts, arguments, proofs.
In the meantime they talk about....international law.....without bringing a single jurisprudence from international law.

 

[MMM-E]

It's obvious, he's either trolling or biased. It doesn't matter, we continue to deposit evidence, arguments, proofs.

Which proof ? You liar trolls
even USA-The EU said that Seville Map has no any value

Read UNCLOS article 2
Greece is not archipelagic state like Indonesia , New Zelland , Philippines

therefore Greek EEZ should start from Greek mainland , but not from every tiny Island

and Greek trash claim which has no any similar example in the world


The map showing the areas that Greece usurped from Turkiye by drawing a line between the islands

usurpation of the rights of the mainland of Turkiye, which has a coastal length of 1870 km, by the Greek islands with a total coastal length of only 165 km.

or a 10km tiny Island which is 2 km from mainland of Turkiye and 580 km from the mainland of Greece, creating a continental shelf area of 40.000 km is not rational

it is not in line with the provisions of international law

keep dreaming with trash Seville map which has no any value

 

[Foinikas]

It's obvious, they're either trolling or biased. It doesn't matter, we continue to deposit evidence, facts, arguments, proofs.
In the meantime they talk about....international law.....without bringing a single jurisprudence from international law.

And the funny thing is the Turkish government has been threatening to take this matter to the International Court for years,but does nothing. Because they know they don't have a case. Just like with the S-300 "lock" evidence. They kept threatening they would show it to NATO. They're still "showing it" to NATO...

 

[Akritas]

Read UNCLOS article 2
Greece is not archipelagic state like Indonesia , New Zelland , Philippines

therefore Greek EEZ should start from Greek mainland , but not from every tiny Island

Did you read article 2?

Of course, Greece is not an archipelago state, but a coastal state.........
The sovereignty of a coastal State extends, beyond its land territory and internal waters

with islands with sustain human habitation or economic life of their own shall have exclusive economic zone or continental shelf.(article 121)

 

[Foinikas]

Did you read article 2?

Of course, Greece is not an archipelago state, but a coastal state.........
The sovereignty of a coastal State extends, beyond its land territory and internal waters

with islands with sustain human habitation or economic life of their own shall have exclusive economic zone or continental shelf.(article 121)

It can't get clearer than that,yet I'll bet he will ignore it and go back to repeating the text he has on a notepad:

"Greece not archipelago tiny island can't generate 200 nm EEZ" etc. etc.

Even TNT will ignore it. And it can't get any clearer than that!

 

[MMM-E]

Did you read article 2?

Of course, Greece is not an archipelago state, but a coastal state.........
The sovereignty of a coastal State extends, beyond its land territory and internal waters

with islands with sustain human habitation or economic life of their own shall have exclusive economic zone or continental shelf.(article 121)

Your trash Greek claims have no any similar example in the world


Coastal State : Greece , Türkiye , etc
Archipelago State : Indonesia , New Zelland , Philippines

UNCLOS Article 2
The sovereignty of a coastal State extends, beyond its land territory and internal waters and, in the case of an archipelagic State, its archipelagic waters, to an adjacent belt of sea, described as the territorial sea

So Greece is not an Archipelago State
therefore Greek EEZ should start from Greek mainland , but not from every tiny Island


About UNCLOS Article 121

When we look at the wording of the article, it is clear that no objective, fundamental and concrete solution has been brought in terms of limitation

So Article 121 doesnt give right to Greek Islands to create EEZ of 200 nm

The provisions of the 1958 Geneva Convention expressly stipulate the equidistance method in case of conflict

 

[Foinikas]

The sovereignty of a coastal State extends, beyond its land territory and internal waters and, in the case of an archipelagic State, its archipelagic waters, to an adjacent belt of sea, described as the territorial sea

Many of the smaller Greek islands form groups or chains, often called archipelagos, with notable examples being the Cyclades and the Sporades in the south and central Aegean Sea respectively.

This archipelagos is part of the Greek State. More than 3,000 islands.

 

[MMM-E]

Many of the smaller Greek islands form groups or chains, often called archipelagos, with notable examples being the Cyclades and the Sporades in the south and central Aegean Sea respectively.

This archipelagos is part of the Greek State. More than 3,000 islands.

There are Greek mainland which has total territory, 83.33% or 110,496 km2
and the rest 16.67% or 21,461 km2 is island territory

so Greece is not an Archipelago State

Archipelago State : Indonesia , New Zelland , Philippines which are full of Island

 

[Foinikas]

There are Greek mainland which has total territory, 83.33% or 110,496 km2
and the rest 16.67% or 21,461 km2 is island territory

so Greece is not an Archipelago State

Archipelago State : Indonesia , New Zelland , Philippines which are full of Island

Wait a minute,I thought you guys didn't adhere to UNCLOS? Now you're suddenly worried about it?

 

[Akritas]

Coastal State : Greece , Türkiye , etc
Archipelago State : Indonesia , New Zelland , Philippines

UNCLOS Article 2
The sovereignty of a coastal State extends, beyond its land territory and internal waters and, in the case of an archipelagic State, its archipelagic waters, to an adjacent belt of sea, described as the territorial sea

So Greece is not an Archipelago State
therefore Greek EEZ should start from Greek mainland , but not from every tiny Island

Spain, Portugal, and Morocco are coastal or archipelago states?
Because Spanish and Portuguezel islands, have.....EEZ up to 200 miles or middle line with Morocco.

Jersey island, what kind of state is ?

It can't get clearer than that,yet I'll bet he will ignore it and go back to repeating the text he has on a notepad:

"Greece not archipelago tiny island can't generate 200 nm EEZ" etc. etc.

Even TNT will ignore it. And it can't get any clearer than that!

If you look at the Turks, they repeat the same bullshit they hear on Turkish TV channels from the various admirals and fake journalists. Because there is no counterargument, not even...dialogue, they monotonously repeat the same things over and over again.

 

[MMM-E]

Spain, Portugal, and Morocco are coastal or archipelago states?
Because Spanish and Portuguezel islands, have.....EEZ up to 200 miles or middle line with Morocco.

Not same situation between Turkiye and Greece

Greek Island is just 2 km away from Turkish mainland ... still wth are you talking about ?
10 km tiny Island can not block 780.000 km Turkish mainland


Madeira Island ( Portugal ) is 520 km away from Morocco
and Canary Islands are autonomous community of Spain

Continental States with offshore archipelagos, such as Spain, are not archipelagic States and therefore may not draw archipelagic baselines. Proposals were made during the Third U.N

Spanish and Portuguese islands dont block mainlland of Morocco

 

[Akritas]

Not same situation between Turkiye and Greece

Greek Island is just 2 km away from Turkish mainland ... still wth are you talking about ?
10 km tiny Island can not block 780.000 km Turkish mainland


Madeira Island ( Portugal ) is 520 km away from Morocco
and Canary Islands are autonomous community of Spain and archipelago in the Atlantic Ocean

Continental States with offshore archipelagos, such as Spain, are not archipelagic States and therefore may not draw archipelagic baselines. Proposals were made during the Third U.N

Spanish and Portuguese islands dont block mainlland of Morocco
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Do you understand that you are arguing and contradicting yourself ?
Nowhere is there a reference to the distance of an island from the state.
These are Turkish....discoveries.
UNCLOS clearly defines when a state is coastal and archipelagic.
UNCLOS clearly defines when a island has EEZ rights.
Greek islands do not block the Turkish EEZ, because quite simply, there is the middle line.

 

[MMM-E]

If you look at the Turks, they repeat the same bullshit they hear on Turkish TV channels from the various admirals and fake journalists. Because there is no counterargument, not even...dialogue, they monotonously repeat the same things over and over again.

First learn about international law then come to discuss with the Turks

You hear on Greek TV channels from the various generals-admirals and fake journalists and you repeat the same things over and over again.


even USA and The EU said that Seville Map has no any value

"" the United States does not consider the Seville Map to have any legal significance. We understand the European Union does not consider the Seville map to be a legally binding document ""

Turkiye is still committed to good-neighborly relations with Greece and in this respect supports the dialogue process

but Greece stopped the dialogue process
and Greece is trying to use USA-France to steal oil-gas reserves and 150.000 km2 of area from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean

 

[Foinikas]

If you look at the Turks, they repeat the same bullshit they hear on Turkish TV channels from the various admirals and fake journalists.

Exactly! That's what i've noticed here. MMM-E and sometimes dBSPL post the exact party line,sometimes it's as if Akar or Erdogan are writing the posts themselves! Lol!

Especially MMM-E,he is like a c/p from TRT,Yeni Safak and the Turkish MoD.

And in the end,when they get cornered,they just say "Turkey will defend its interests".

So it all boils down to that: Turkey will defend its interests. All the rest,the validity of their claims,international law,good neighborhood,historical truth...all that doesn't matter to them. In the end it's the law of the jungle,Turkey strong so Turkey take.