Liberation War martyrs would exceed 30 lac: Mamun

[kalu_miah]

History

As the Hindu-Muslim conflict escalated and the demand for a separate Muslim state of Pakistan became popular amongst Indian Muslims, the partition of India on communal lines was deemed inevitable by mid-1947. To prevent the inclusion of Hindu-majority districts of Punjab and Bengal in a Muslim Pakistan, the Indian National Congress and the Hindu Mahasabha sought the partition of these provinces on communal lines. Bengali nationalists such as Sarat Chandra Bose, Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy, Kiran Shankar Roy, Abul Hashim, Satya Ranjan Bakshi and Mohammad Ali Chaudhury sought to counter partition proposals with the demand for a united and independent state of Bengal. Ideological visions for a "Greater Bengal" also included the regions of Assam and districts of Bihar. Suhrawardy and Bose sought the formation of a coalition government between Bengali Congress and the Bengal Provincial Muslim League. Proponents of the plan urged the masses to reject communal divisions and uphold the vision of a united Bengal. In a press conference held in Delhi on April 27, 1947 Suhrawardy presented his plan for a united and independent Bengal and Abul Hashim issued a similar statement in Calcutta on April 29. A few days later, Sarat Chandra Bose put forward his proposals for a "Sovereign Socialist Republic of Bengal."


Proposal

With the support of the British governor of the Bengal province, Frederick Burrows, Bengali leaders issued the formal proposal on May 20:
Bengal would be a Free State. The Free State of Bengal would decide its relations with the rest of India.
The Constitution of the Free State of Bengal would provide for election to the Bengal Legislature on the basis of a joint electorate and adult franchise, with reservation of seats proportionate to the population among Hindus and Muslims. The seats set aside for Hindus and Scheduled Caste Hindus would be distributed amongst them in proportion to their respective population, or in such manner as may be agreed among them. The constituencies would be multiple constituencies and the votes would be distributive and not cumulative. A candidate who got the majority of the votes of his own community cast during the elections and 25 percent of the votes of the other communities so cast, would be declared elected. If no candidate satisfied these conditions, that candidate who got the largest number of votes of his own community would be elected.
On the announcement by His Majesty's Government that the proposal of the Free State of Bengal had been accepted and that Bengal would not be partitioned, the present Bengal Ministry would be dissolved. A new interim Ministry would be brought into being, consisting of an equal number of Muslims and Hindus (including Scheduled Caste Hindus) but excluding the Chief Minister. In this Ministry, Chief Minister would be a Muslim and the Home Minister a Hindu.
Pending the final emergence of a Legislature and a Ministry under the new constitutions, Hindus (including Scheduled Caste Hindus) and Muslims would have an equal share in the Services, including military and police. The Services would be manned by Bengalis.
A Constituent Assembly composed of 30 persons, 16 Muslims and 14 non-Muslims, would be elected by Muslim and non-Muslim members of the Legislature respectively, excluding Europeans.
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Failure


The Muslim League and the Congress issued statements rejecting the notion of an independent Bengal on May 28 and June 1 respectively. The Hindu Mahasabha also agitated against the inclusion of Hindu-majority areas in a Muslim-majority Bengal, while Bengali Muslim leader Khawaja Nazimuddin and Maulana Akram Khan sought the exclusion of Hindu-majority areas to establish a homogenous Muslim Pakistan. Amidst aggravating Hindu-Muslim tensions, on June 3 British viceroy Lord Louis Mountbatten announced plans to partition India and consequently Punjab and Bengal on communal lines, burying the demand for an independent Bengal.
United Bengal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


@Md. Akmal

Read some books before you start writing history which you heard from fiction of fanatics.
Sohrwardy had the vision of Siraj's Bengal which was lost in 1757.

And stop lying everywhere..

If Bengal wanted independence, what would stop other states who had same language to declare their independence. It was a recipe for breakup of India along linguistic lines. So for obvious reasons Congress and Muslim League leaders opposed this idea of "provincial independence".

This dream died its sorry death in 1947 partition, whoever kept it alive in their sick minds were delusional morons.

Hey IDIOT, what is that blabbering about? I was giving my opinion on some question raised by Kalu. Thats solely my opinion, you buy it or not. I had not given any opinion regarding BAKSAL or post independence politics as I am not a political thug like you. You keep your thuggish stupid ideology and Bengali and Bangladeshi bickering to yourself. I dont like BAKSAL, neither I like your Military Zia neither I like any political thug like you. I am just a self made history student and try to analyze things with logic not with a$$ like you. You stupid fanatic.

Every time you propagate your nonsensical bs, it will be countered and opposed.

 

[neutral_person]

Its all in the past now. Who cares if 30 lakh Bangladeshis died, and what can Bangladeshis even do to Pakistan today? Its not like you guys can win a war against Pakistan (no offence, its the reality), so why open these stupid 1971 threads every 2 weeks which talks about how you guys got raped/killed and start this attention hogging dramabaazi?

 

[Md Akmal]

Sohrawardy was a smart man who knew that a small part of Bengal without Calcutta can not sustain neither it could keep parity with West Pakistan. He was right in his assessment.

@ As because

1. Suharwardy belongs to Midnapur.
2. His brothers were in good position at Calcutta.
3. His all clients were in and around Calcutta.
4. His all relatives were in Midnapur and Calcutta.
5. He was a Mayor of Calcutta.
6. He was Chief Minister of Greater Bengal.
7. He started politics from Midnapur and Calcutta.

@ East Bengal or East Pakistan survived for 25 years without Calcutta rather our living standard were far better than West Bengal in those days. In 1947, there were not a single JUte Mills at Dacca but in 1971 we had around 77 Jute Mills and the Jute Mills were of Calcutta and around were junked and many were sold in the "Bangari Shops" of Howra.

@ His assessment was wrong. The muslim leaque high echelons proved it to be complete failure ?????

 

[kalu_miah]

Its all in the past now. Who cares if 30 lakh Bangladeshis died, and what can Bangladeshis even do to Pakistan today? Its not like you guys can win a war against Pakistan (no offence, its the reality), so why open these stupid 1971 threads every 2 weeks which talks about how you guys got raped/killed and start this attention hogging dramabaazi?

Because the same idiots that shook hands with Indians to subvert our people's interest in those days, are still doing the same in Bangladesh. You may not care about Bangladeshi death, but your RAW was central to engineer the civil war that caused these deaths, so your country and govt. do bear some responsibility for these deaths. That is why it is important for us to uncover what actually happened behind the scenes, what was propaganda and what was the truth. If it is too uncomfortable for you, just don't visit this section.

 

[neutral_person]

Because the same idiots that shook hands with Indians to subvert our people's interest in those days, are still doing the same in Bangladesh. You may not care about Bangladeshi death, but your RAW was central to engineer the civil war that caused these deaths, so your country and govt. do bear some responsibility for these deaths. That is why it is important for us to uncover what actually happened behind the scenes, what was propaganda and what was the truth. If it is too uncomfortable for you, just don't visit this section.

You seem to be too full of yourself. What are you going to discover here? Its just a a forum where people exchange their views.

If you wan to put the blame on India, go ahead, We always have claimed that breaking Pakistan into 2 pieces is our achievement, so you are not exactly going against our narrative, but simply repeating what we have always claimed every 2 weeks with these threads.

If you have beef with how Pakistan treated your citizens and if you Bangladeshis still have even an ounce of manhood/dignity left in you, demand an apology from them or fight a wart against them and defeat them instead of getting raped and killed by them. If you have any issues with India, feel free to try the same.

Opening threads every two weeks and whining and crying about 1971 like little girls with no manhood is annoying.

 

[kalu_miah]

You seem to be too full of yourself. What are you going to discover here? Its just a a forum where people exchange their views.

If you wan to put the blame on India, go ahead, We always have claimed that breaking Pakistan into 2 pieces is our achievement, so you are not exactly going against our narrative, but simply repeating what we have always claimed every 2 weeks with these threads.

If you have beef with how Pakistan treated your citizens and if you Bangladeshis still have even an ounce of manhood/dignity left in you, demand an apology from them or fight a wart against them and defeat them instead of getting raped and killed by them. If you have any issues with India, feel free to try the same.

Opening threads every two weeks and whining and crying about 1971 like little girls with no manhood is annoying.

We will do whatever the damn we like, just go somewhere else with your useless bs. None of your business.

 

[neutral_person]

We will do whatever the damn we like, just go somewhere else with your useless bs. None of your business.

Nice reply since you had nothing to say.

We in the forum are tired of hearing you guys of how you might have been raped and killed in millions by Pakistanis, even us Indians don't care about it any more even though we saved you from it.

 

[kalu_miah]

Nice reply since you had nothing to say.

We in the forum are tired of hearing you guys of how you might have been raped and killed in millions by Pakistanis, even us Indians don't care about it any more even though we saved you from it.

You are not the audience here, if you do not like what we say in Bangladesh section and have nothing constructive or useful to say and like you say you are tired of it, just don't visit Bangladesh section. Why should we care what you feel like, you don't speak for all forum members, you speak for yourself.

 

[LaBong]

Its all in the past now. Who cares if 30 lakh Bangladeshis died, and what can Bangladeshis even do to Pakistan today? Its not like you guys can win a war against Pakistan (no offence, its the reality), so why open these stupid 1971 threads every 2 weeks which talks about how you guys got raped/killed and start this attention hogging dramabaazi?

It's just Bangladeshi attempt at rewriting history, don't be amazed if you hear that it was india who carried out op searchlight. These guys are confused, they are not sure of their identity yet, they hate the fact that bunch of kaffirs saved their rear end from a marauding army of their ummah brothers, so they need to twist history, if anything to convince themselves that Indians are bad, evil people who divided brothers.

More funny is the tomfoolery of bengali nationalism vs Bangladeshi nationalism, truly its identity crisis galore.

 

[kalu_miah]

It's just Bangladeshi attempt at rewriting history, don't be amazed if you hear that it was india who carried out op searchlight. These guys are confused, they are not sure of their identity yet, they hate the fact that bunch of kaffirs saved their rear end from a marauding army of their ummah brothers, so they need to twist history, if anything to convince themselves that Indians are bad, evil people who divided brothers.

More funny is the tomfoolery of bengali nationalism vs Bangladeshi nationalism, truly its identity crisis galore.

You got that right, it is an attempt to inform people about the propaganda story by the RAWami and Indian version of history where 3 million people died and India came as the knight in shining armor and saved the fair damsel Bangladesh in distress, out of pure altruism and zero self interest. And India and its intelligence agents had no involvement in East Pakistan prior to 1971 war, since there was zero geopolitical interest of India to break Pakistan to make it weak and to save/secure the North East states.

What part of it do you find funny, it is your RAWami leaning brothers like iajdani who is claiming the Bengali nationalism includes dreamland of West Bengal+East Bengal+North East states+Bihar, which started with Suhrawardy and then followed by Mujib and Awami's till 1971.

 

[Bhairava]

..... which started with Suhrawardy and then followed by Mujib and are still being followed by Awami's in Bangladesh.

Iajdani has been pretty clear that the policy of greater Bengal died with the '71 war.

 

[kalu_miah]

Iajdani has been pretty clear that the policy of greater Bengal died with the '71 war.

good point, he did say that, thanks.

 

[Luffy 500]

It's just Bangladeshi attempt at rewriting history, don't be amazed if you hear that it was india who carried out op searchlight. These guys are confused, they are not sure of their identity yet, they hate the fact that bunch of kaffirs saved their rear end from a marauding army of their ummah brothers, so they need to twist history, if anything to convince themselves that Indians are bad, evil people who divided brothers.

More funny is the tomfoolery of bengali nationalism vs Bangladeshi nationalism, truly its identity crisis galore.

La la bong do you support Iajdani's vision of greater BD or would your fore fathers have supported
it back in 71.

 

[Bhairava]

La la bong do you support Iajdani's vision of greater BD or would your fore fathers have supported
it back in 71.

Mujib had his reasons for the vision of 'greater Bengal'..but he was also pragmatic enough to understand when to stop his dreaming -- something that is missing in you lots.

 

[kalu_miah]

Mujib had his reasons for the vision of 'greater Bengal'..but he was also pragmatic enough to understand when to stop his dreaming -- something that is missing in you lots.

We found out what Mujib really was like from his ruling period 1972-1975. We are just uncovering his story before 1971.

We dream of a Bangladesh that has no RAW agents and India has a policy of non-interference, is that too much to ask?