Letter from Erdogan to Arabs in Arabic

[Shogun]

On the contrary. Don't project as usual. You were already told that by numerous users, including plenty of non-Arabs. In short, take your pills troll.



I disagree.

I don't see any difference in approach and neither does the only Palestinian on PDF, our brother @Falcon29 whose views I respect a lot and genuine stances although I don't agree with him on EVERY thing, albeit we agree mostly about the region and what to do and what not to do.

KSA ever since King Salman (if we exclude Yemen) has been more busy internally and Islamists and pseudo-Islamists have interpreted the many recent, positive, necessary and long sought after reforms on all fronts, as some kind of crusade against Islam which is simply ridiculous. Certain nonsense interpretations and policies that had been in place for 30 + years ever since 1979 (Grand Mosque Seizure, "Islamic Revolution" next door in Iran) not to mention the Sahwa movement (please read about it as it is quite interesting) are being corrected which has enormous support among the people.

Does not sound like a "harsh approach" to me. Actually those arrested are all well-known for their corruption and neglect. Some of them caused the Jeddah Floods that killed well over 100 people. The event that gave rise to a street in Jeddah being named after a Pakistani hero who saved 3 children of a local family but sadly drowned in the process.

As for this being a power play, this has always been the case with humans, sadly. It is what it is. We need to make the best out of it.

Jeddah council honours Pakistani man who died while rescuing family during Jeddah floods by naming street after hi

Copy, paste, copy, paste that's all you do. In KSA we call people like you electric flies/ drummers (ذباب الكتروني/مطبل) government agents that are sent to seed hate and stifle honest protests.


لا ابوك لا ابو الي جابك يا عبد. كرهت الناس فينا. و فجرت روسنا بهيطك. و اخرتها تطلع صلبي و لا زلمة حتى قبيلة ما عندك. لا عاد تتكلم باسم العرب يا مطبلجي. لانك ما تمثل اراء اهل الجزيرة العربية يا ابن الذين

 

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Erdogan is starting to suck to the arabs

Lets face it, they are a good tool to have in the toolbox.

 

[Falcon29]

The guy who made first post(1st response so not OP) ruined the thread, not sure why he saw thought necessary.

Totally agree, we should be playing to the Arab crowd not the governments, the people in Arab lands still remember and look favourably at the Ottoman legacy, I’ve experienced it first had majority of Arabs love Turks and it’s the reason countries such as UAE, Saudi Arabia and Egypt are feeling there dictatorships threaten.

Not sure what Ottoman legacy has to do with domestic politics in Arab world. Arabs don't need to be administered by anyone. It's disrespectful that you keep suggesting that, no wonder you are getting hostile responses by some members. Whatever internal political phase they go through now or in the future, it won't change that they are going to administer their own nations and have a way to go in terms of stability , development and self sufficiency. Arabs and Turks will have ties and trade and whatever else. Other than that you are stuck in past too much and doubt you actually seek what you write about.

لا ابوك لا ابو الي جابك يا عبد. كرهت الناس فينا. و فجرت روسنا بهيطك. و اخرتها تطلع صلبي و لا زلمة حتى قبيلة ما عندك. لا عاد تتكلم باسم العرب يا مطبلجي. لانك ما تمثل اراء اهل الجزيرة العربية يا ابن الذين

لا هو ليست كذالك، فقط لديه غيرة على العرب وبعض الأتراك هنا علمانين وعنصرين يستهزو على العرب بدون سبب وهو يريد يبين إن الوضع بخير رغم أمور داخلية

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

Not sure what Ottoman legacy has to do with domestic politics in Arab world. Arabs don't need to be administered by anyone. It's disrespectful that you keep suggesting that, no wonder you are getting hostile responses by some members. Whatever internal political phase they go through now or in the future, it won't change that they are going to administer their own nations and have a way to go in terms of stability , development and self sufficiency. Arabs and Turks will have ties and trade and whatever else. Other than that you are stuck in past too much and doubt you actually seek what you write about.

Where did I say Turks should administrate Arabs? Bring me proof please. God forbid us Turks don’t want those days back.

I merely stated the Arab street still remembers the Ottoman legacy which the Arab trolls here find it hard the grasp.

 

[Falcon29]

Where did I say Turks should administrate Arabs? Bring me proof please. God forbid us Turks don’t want those days back.

I merely stated the Arab street still remembers the Ottoman legacy which the Arab trolls here find it hard the grasp.

There are no trolls here, besides maybe @TurkeyForever , .

The rest of you guys are serious members just getting in scuffles. Yes, history is intriguing and Ottoman history is part of Muslim history too and everyone is interested in it.

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

Lmao did you forget to log back to your troll account?

TheCamelGuy = SALMAN F?

hahaha, gold

I wouldnt be surprised if these two guys are part of a broader network of trolls where Saif Al-Arab and Hijaz Sharif come from

Lol exposed really bad lol

These trolls have multiple accounts, when one gets banned the other set jump in. Notice since Saif al Arab is gone there is moderate discussion in most threads related to Turkish - Arab - Iranian threads.

 

[SALMAN F]

Lets face it, they are a good tool to have in the toolbox.

Specially the ikhwanjie donkyies

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Copy, paste, copy, paste that's all you do. In KSA we call people like you electric flies/ drummers (ذباب الكتروني/مطبل) government agents that are sent to seed hate and stifle honest protests.


لا ابوك لا ابو الي جابك يا عبد. كرهت الناس فينا. و فجرت روسنا بهيطك. و اخرتها تطلع صلبي و لا زلمة حتى قبيلة ما عندك. لا عاد تتكلم باسم العرب يا مطبلجي. لانك ما تمثل اراء اهل الجزيرة العربية يا ابن الذين

و من انت حتى تمثل اهل الجزيرة العربية؟

 

[EmeraldRabbit]

There are no trolls here, besides maybe @TurkeyForever , .

The rest of you guys are serious members just getting in scuffles. Yes, history is intriguing and Ottoman history is part of Muslim history too and everyone is interested in it.

Not really he was just defending baseless accusations posted by (now banned) Saif Al-Arab about how Erdogan married some white-arab and posting non-sense about Gregorian Arabs and he being Gregorian (really dont know where he got that bs from) - but yea he basically wanted to make it a race issue.

Those posts got removed.

I respect Arabs only if they adhere to Islam, once they start thinking they are special, they pretty much fall into the same trap as Jews, and they are no different from pre-Islamic Quraysh. Same goes for any other race (Turks, people of Hind etc)

 

[Falcon29]

I respect Arabs only if they adhere to Islam, once they start thinking they are special, they pretty much fall into the same trap as Jews, and they are no different from pre-Islamic Quraysh. Same goes for any other race (Turks, people of Hind etc)

Honestly, Arabs are just living normal life like others. As for adhering to Islam, not sure what relation it has with respect. I would want people to adhere to Islam because I believe it makes society a better place. I've talked about this issue before and will say it again. I don't see these amazing Muslims you're talking about brother. Ranting against US and Israel without taking steps on ground in coordination with other countries in region to minimize foreign influence in region doesn't make you an amazing Muslim. Especially while you're exclusively serving your interests.

Let's face reality, just because make up of country is Muslim does not stop them from pursuing their country's interest. No one is pursuing their interests because they think that they serving God. Unless of course they're lying to themselves, or intentionally trying to sell it to public. So not sure why you expect Saudi Arabia to be these amazing Muslims politically, when other major countries in region are not trying to help each other but rather assume everything they could in terms of influence, oil, natural gas, etc....

If you want to follow Islam just ask me what it means to follow Islam. It's going to begin with your personal attributes, manners, behaviors, intentions, aspirations, etc.... That's where it needs to start, not begin with political rhetoric.

 

[Rasengan]

History will remember Erdogan as a great leader, unlike certain leaders in the Arab world who purchase paintings depicting a Prophet.

 

[TurkeyForever]

There are no trolls here, besides maybe @TurkeyForever , .

The rest of you guys are serious members just getting in scuffles. Yes, history is intriguing and Ottoman history is part of Muslim history too and everyone is interested in it.

That's rich coming from an arab.