Lessons in hate and violence-undercover in a mainstream UK Muslim School

[Developereo]

You haven't had any suicided bombings in China yet, if you did you would think differently.

If, God forbid, such a thing should happen in China, I would hope the Chinese would set the right example by ruthlessly targetting the individuals responsible, instead of demonizing an entire religion.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

You haven't had any suicided bombings in China yet, if you did you would think differently.

Actually there have already been several bombings by the East Turkestan movement (ETIM).

Why would I think differently?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

If, God forbid, such a thing should happen in China, I would hope the Chinese would set the right example by ruthlessly targetting the individuals responsible, instead of demonizing an entire religion.

Absolutely right.

 

[Spitfighter]

I am saying that there is a lot of hate mongering going on on all sides, but Western operatives are a thousand times more sophisticated and media-savvy than the Islamists. Western hate is couched under scholarly treatises, terrorism expert reports, and selective media coverage.

I am not excusing either side; simply pointing out the selective coverage to further the media's agenda.

So let me guess, this is an isolated incident that's being blown out of proportion?

Temujin, you'd posted links to a similar documentary sometime ago, do you think you could put those up again?

 

[Spitfighter]

If, God forbid, such a thing should happen in China, I would hope the Chinese would set the right example by ruthlessly targetting the individuals responsible, instead of demonizing an entire religion.

Lol, strangely enough there have been such incidents in China, and boy did they set an example.

(Hint: They were Uighur)

 

[Roybot]

Not so overt, or even intentional.

Look at the four recent wars started in the Middle East...

Iraq war, Afghanistan war, Gaza war, and Lebanon war.

All these happened in the same decade, and all of them against Muslim majority nations.

Coupled with rising waves of Islamophobia across the world, there is clearly a problem.

This is how I see it,

Iraq War: Consequence of Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, and Iraq was no saint either, Iraq-Iraq war was certainly not islamophobic in nature?

Afghanistan War: You would rather have the country run by Bamiyan statue blowing, women flogging regime? Also AlQaeda? Unless you belong to the "9/11 was an inside job brigade" Taliban deserved it. Taliban is not Muslim. Many here would agree with me. Infact ask the Afghans living in non taliban infested areas, they are quite happy about the presence of NATO in Afghanistan.

Gaza War: Not sure what you are referring to.

Lebanon War: Imagine a little country like Mongolia constantly sending a barrage of rockets into Chinese territory, how would the Chinese react?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Lol, strangely enough there have been such incidents in China, and boy did they set an example.

(Hint: They were Uighur)

The incident you are referring to had nothing to do with terrorism. It was an "ethnic" riot, with the vast majority of casualties being Han Chinese.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

This is how I see it

Like I said before, I don't think that it was intentional.

However the coincidence that all these invaded nations are Muslim-majority countries... certainly looks bad.

Coupled with rising waves of Islamophobia across the world, I don't blame them for being worried.

 

[Developereo]

So let me guess, this is an isolated incident that's being blown out of proportion?

I am sure there are several incidents.

And there are far more incidents of Western hate against Muslims, which will be ignored by the media.
And you.

There is an ideological war going on between extremists of all religions (Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, etc.).
Arguably, the modern incarnation of this war started when the Zionists fired the first shot by working to establish Israel.
And everybody else followed.

This is how I see it,

Uh huh. And the fact that all these countries just happened to be majority Muslim and anti-Israel is just a coincidence...

 

[Roybot]

If, God forbid, such a thing should happen in China, I would hope the Chinese would set the right example by ruthlessly targetting the individuals responsible, instead of demonizing an entire religion.

Thats the problem here mate. Individuals don't carry out suicide bombings. There is a whole network of people and ideology behind the suicide bombers. And by the looks of it this radicalism keeps spreading. The mainstream Muslims instead of crying "Islamophobia" should try and minimize the influence of this radicalism. Certainly not going to happen by sending their kids to schools run by maniacs such as the one shown in these videos. And if you say that this is an isolated case, I would have to disagree with you.

 

[aakash_2410]

I'm not even religious person! But after watching these videos I'm getting GOOSE BUMPS!!!

Damn! Talking about hindus!! It was hindus and sikhs who saved muslims from an attack from some skinheads last weak where I live! And this is how they feel about us?! :\
Hinduism and Buddhism are religions that believe in 'non-violent' and we're even vegetarians! [because Hindus believe killing a life and then eat it is cruel] and they say hinduism is not good for the world?!

 

[Roybot]

I am sure there are several incidents.

And there are far more incidents of Western hate against Muslims, which will be ignored by the media.
And you.



Uh huh. And the fact that all these countries just happened to be majority Muslim and anti-Israel is just a coincidence...

What about the Kosovo War? No islamophobia, when the NATO and USA helped Kosovans?

 

[Spitfighter]

Iraq war

Based on false intelligence.

Afghanistan war

They had it coming.

Gaza war

Its interesting how people start complaining when one responds to a terrorist like a terrorist isn't it? I'm not trying to get into a debate about Israel and Palestine, but purely from a strategic point of view, Israel has an iron grip on Gaza and the West bank. Even Hamas thinks five times before they launch one of their dud missiles.

Lebanon war.

Ever wonder how it started?

All these happened in the past decade, and all of them against Muslim majority nations.

We aren't talking about Israel here. Iraq was a blunder, but it's not like Saddam was a saint either. Afghanistan, like I said, had it coming.

 

[Developereo]

What about the Kosovo War? No islamophobia, when the NATO and USA helped Kosovans?

Kosovo was less about saving Muslims and more about a proxy war with the Soviets and their Slavic brotherhood.

It was about letting the Russians know their superpower days were over and Europe was off-limits.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Iraq was a blunder, but it's not like Saddam was a saint either. Afghanistan, like I said, had it coming.

OK. But I'm sure you can see... why there are plenty of Muslims out there who think that America/Israel are against them?

All of these four countries that have been attacked in this past decade by America/Israel are Muslim majority nations. I don't personally believe that it was intentional, but it is quite a big coincidence.

Let's make up a hypothetical example. Let's say that some terrorist group in America (Aryan nations for example) decided to bomb a couple of areas at random. If by some coincidence, all the bombed areas just happened to be populated with Chinese people... you can see why they might think they are being specifically targeted.

In the end it looks like it will turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy, regarding the issues in the Middle East.