Lessons for GHQ in China's brokered agreement between Saudi & Iran

[Sinnerman108]

Well,
Every day one way or other GHQ's decision to overthrow an elected govt to please the americans is proving to be the worst catastrophe. Iran & Saudi going to establish relationship shows many things:-

1) China's established influence.
As China has brokered historic agreement and deal between two arch rivals. I bet one day China will brokered deal between south and north Koreas. China's approach is reconciliation, progress and connectivity. While US was always divide & conquer. World has recognized China as next super power. China is now a peer competitor to US, something which our generals who appears to be so influenced from US because of their trainings and all are unaware of.

2) GHQ's lack of strategic vision
I can never forget Bajwa's remarks in in security conference 2022 where he said: We buy weapons from China cos you (west) don't sell us. His mindset and statement is like a child complaining to his parents about some toys he wanted to buy but they didn't gave him permission. In my view, it was extremely foolish statement to make, it damaged our relations with China, also indicated how desperate Bajwa was to do just anything to please the west. In other words, he was saying that we have no choice that's why we buy chinese otherwise, we'd buy american or west. We see various reports on his pro-US and anti-China remarks with various journalist meetings.

Point is that GHQ completely lacked strategic vision, they had no idea where the world is going, they failed to recognize the strongest & closest alliance of US & india that there is no way US could put us in their good books when our worst enemy has become their strongest ally. There is no way they could give us any favor at expense of india. Then why on earth you would topple govts, create political chaos and economic storm in the country to please the outsiders ? Why on earth you annoy the only great power (china) which were backing you and supporting you all those years. Why on earth you were so eager to get in to US laps.

Year ago under IK govt, Pak were not only doing good at economic front like highest exports, booming textile industry, booming IT industry, mobile manufacturing, record sales of autos, record agriculture etc. But Pak was also doing great in geopolitics. Pak was doing OIC and inviting China in it (this made US upset against Khan), Pak was doing meetings on Afghanistan, Now we are completely discarded thanks to Bajwa's stunt. Whole region's NSA's including india met in Moscow for Afghanistan but obviously we were not invited. Its unbelievable how on earth our GHQ proved to be that dumb. They gave entire regional space & clout to india. Now no country trust us, Russia & China are now thinking Iran to replace us for many aspects. and whatever backflip jumps we did has not even impressed US. Asim Munir visited UK and others but not to China, Shaheen exercises got cancelled or postponed, China closed the consular office in pak, several other indicators shows they are simply annoyed at surprising & foolish moves by establishment. These moves have showed China clearly that Pak Generals are desperate to become puppets for US.
GHQ's strategic vision was apparent from "Jis din nayee hakumat ayee, dollar 1 rupiya sasta howa aur..."

3) Moment of Shame for many in PDF who used to criticize IK govt for not sending troops in Yemen.
We all remember many people in PDF were eager to send troops to Yemen, they were eager to discard Iran and participate in the war, There was one guy who always was ready to even start a war with Iran. Guess what, even Saudi & Iran patched up, where you'd hide your faces now? If you have so much habit of becoming mercenary for others then you have no self respect. So IK's policy yet again proved to be correct to not to become party in it. So the lesson in all that is NEVER let your military become mercenary for someone's else war.



Its time GHQ must apprise themselves with the real facts. Reconcile with China, stop selling any ammo for Ukraine (if they are doing it), Take benefit of Iran & Saudi agreement, Approach both (maybe through civil govt) and appreciate & support this agreement for region's prosperity, talk with Iran, make progress with Iran's oil & gas pipeline, and try to be a less puppet of the US, try to learn from Saudi & Iran, honorable countries do not always look at the west for their solutions, they do best decisions for their own national interests.

Absolutely.
Our generals have been called time and again for their lack of strategic vision.
With their current screw up, they are left alone, with their head stuck up their rectum.

What an unfortunate, wannabe "angrez" , FA pass idiots.

 

[MastanKhan]

What you say is true in theory. What might the orders be ? To fight the Houthis. I say good luck to Pakistani soldier distinguishing between Houthi and non-Houthi,

Hi,

You have not been in combat---. It is very easy to distinguish.

A client state follows orders! One of it's job is to maintain gulf monarchies at the bare minimum. It will keep and nothing more... such as services yielded to Jordan against PLO.

So looking simply at history will give you examples but not context.

Hi,

But not with 500K troops---. Different times---different strategies---.

See how peaceful Jordan's existence has been since then---. PLO learnt the right lesson---.

 

[mr.robot]

امریکہ نے کتے پالے
وردی والے وردی والے

Sooner or later, Pakistan would have to decide between China and USA. This logic of putting not all eggs in basked would be invalid by that time.

 

[Zhukov]

Its not GHQs damn business to comment on economy or foreign policy.
Whole nation should unite on this 1 point. They are soldiers. They should hold Guns, man defense equipment and stand guard at borders. And deploy when government asses a threat and tell them where to be deployed and what to do.
An Army chief commenting in official capacity on Foreign affairs of Pakistan should be court marshelled. Privately he can say whatever he want. Not in Capacity of CAOS.
Trust me Even Nawaz or Zardari are more visionery then the best CAOS in history of Pakistan army when it comes to foreign relations, politics, economy and National Integrity.
Soldier should remain in there defined roles.
Let free and fair elections to be held. Then who ever comes to power either in coalition or individually. Let parilament and Cabinet decide which direction Pakistan will go. Nothing nore nothing less

 

[nahtanbob]

Its not GHQs damn business to comment on economy or foreign policy.
Whole nation should unite on this 1 point. They are soldiers. They should hold Guns, man defense equipment and stand guard at borders. And deploy when government asses a threat and tell them where to be deployed and what to do.
An Army chief commenting in official capacity on Foreign affairs of Pakistan should be court marshelled. Privately he can say whatever he want. Not in Capacity of CAOS.
Trust me Even Nawaz or Zardari are more visionery then the best CAOS in history of Pakistan army when it comes to foreign relations, politics, economy and National Integrity.
Soldier should remain in there defined roles.
Let free and fair elections to be held. Then who ever comes to power either in coalition or individually. Let parilament and Cabinet decide which direction Pakistan will go. Nothing nore nothing less

that is theory. practice can be quite different

 

[Zhukov]

that is theory. practice can be quite different

Practice in every other countries bordering Pakistan. Practice in every operational country. Not even talking about developed countries

 

[CivilianSupremacy]

New Massive development:

Saudi King has invited Iranian President.

Still, some low IQs believed that it was good idea to jump in someone's war and send half a million troops to their war LOL! I mean these people have audacity to defend their piece of shit argument after so quick turn around of events are slapping hard on their faces. I mean with what face we would have approached the world when two primary rivals shake hands and we would have left as mercenary dogs.

 

[lightning F57]

I use to think GHQ of Pak was intelligent but man was I wrong. They are not capable of doing anything which requires foresight and advance planning for Pak. Pak needs better quality leadership.