Learn from India's freedom struggle': Saudi Prince tells Palestine while attacking Hamas, Israel and the West

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NEW DELHI: Prince Turki al-Faisal of Saudi Arabia referred to the "insurrection and civil disobedience" that "brought down the British Empire in India" during a recent speech on the current violence in the Middle East in which he condemned both Hamas and Israel for attacking civilians.“

All military occupied people have a right to resist the occupation, even militantly.

I do not support the military option in Palestine.
I prefer civil insurrection and civil disobedience.
This brought down the British Empire in India and the Soviets in Eastern Europe … I condemn actions by Hamas and by the government of Israel. In this conflict there are no heroes, only victims," said Faisal, a former senior government official of Saudi Arabia who once headed the Kingdom's intelligence unit.

The elder statesman made the remarks during his address at the Baker Institute in the US earlier this week."

I categorically condemn Hamas' targeting of civilians. Such targeting belies Hamas' claims to an Islamic identity," Faisal said, adding that Islam prohibits the targeting of innocent civilians, children, women and elderly even in a state of war.

The attack by Hamas has given "the high moral ground to an Israeli government that is universally shunned", the Saudi prince said, adding that it has also given this Israeli government “the excuse to ethnically cleanse Gaza of its citizens and bombing them to oblivion".

Faisal further said the Hamas attack has also sabotaged Saudi Arabia's attempt to move towards a peaceful resolution of the Israel-Palestine row.

An insight into Saudi Arabia's position

The Saudi leader also attacked Western nations for saying that the Hamas attack was unprovoked. "

What more provocation is required to make it provoked than what Israel has done to the Palestinian people for three-quarters of a century," he asked, adding that Israeli forces have been killings Palestinians in a targeted manner, jailing civilians and stealing Palestinian lands.

Prince Turki also condemned Western politicians for "shedding tears when Israelis are killed by Palestinians", but refusing to "even express sorrow when Israelis kill Palestinians".

Faisal's frank speech is being widely acknowledged as the clearest indicator yet of the Saudi leadership's thinking on the situation.

According to political experts, Saudi Arabia's rulers do not view Hamas in good light. In fact, many of the governments in the region share the sentiment.

The rulers of Egypt, Jordan, UAE and Bahrain see Hamas and its revolutionary brand of so-called "political Islam" as a threat to their rule.

Saudi Arabia was well on its way to normalising ties with Israel when Hamas launched its attack on October 7.

Several analysts believe that Hamas's deadly raid into Israel was partly prompted by a desire to derail normalisation that would have left Hamas and Iran sidelined in a new Middle East.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...d-the-west/articleshow/104630093.cms?from=mdr

Saudis should stop provide funding to jihad groups instead lecturing…out of 19, 9/11 hijackers 15 were these sand ******

 

[Bilal.]

It was the world wars that brought down British empire.

 

[PakFactor]

It was the world wars that brought down British empire.

This is a problem when people speak, but they do not know what they say, like that Saudi clown.

 

[Bilal.]

This is a problem when people speak, but they do not know what they say, like that Saudi clown.

Oh he knows. It’s just convenient. It is just intellectual dishonesty.

 

[El Sidd]

Pakistan will not accept any such solution to the conflict which prerequisite a world war or a holocaust of any and every party involved, even Indians.

An immediate ceasefire if not urgently in place will engulf not just the region but the known world to the brink of an unending war.

 

[PakFactor]

Oh he knows. It’s just convenient. It is just intellectual dishonesty.

I agree with that statement brother it is intellectual dishonesty.

 

[SaadH]

Traitor should face the wrath of his people and change his religion to a jew.


It was an army well armed and battle hardened soldiers from WW2 who convinced the British they had no chance.

Oh yeah the same well armed battle hardened army that refused to go into Kashmir to battle against invading Indian army in '48.

There is no evidence of Army forcing British to give independence to Indians...these types of myths only exists in the figment of lumber 1s twisted and sick imagination...

 

[ThunderCat]

One thing you (@ThunderCat) and I can agree on is Adolph was the catalyst for Indian freedom along with other nation-states.

This walking in doti barechested didn't accomplish anything; it's garbage feed to keep non-whites soft.

Lastly, the The Atlantic Charter made the Brits agree to give colonies full independence for American aid in WWII.

Gandhi jee was also apparently a racist and a fascist. He apparently incited South Asians to attack native Africans. So much for "non-violence."

Hitler apparently allowed African athletes to play in Germany. He openly stated he respected the Chinese and Japanese.

Jinnah sahib, our Quide, despite being a brown sahib, openly stated that one may belong to any color, caste, creed or religion in the state of Pakistan.

Although I respect many philosophies of Gandhi jee and am sure his efforts had some impact, it's all exaggerated.

 

[nahtanbob]

Hitler’s Germany did half of the job for Gandhi and Jinnah.

The British had already realized they had to withdraw and colonialism wasn’t sustainable.

If Palestinians resorted to non violence, the Zionists would slowly and surely usurp Palestinian land over decades. Look what happened to West Bank under Fatah. They’re effectively losing land to the Zionists until the remaining Palestinins had to become refugees in Jordan.

Didn't Indians have a measure of self-rule before WW 2 ? British have been steadily devolving power in all dominions since 1900. Definitely WW2 hastened the process. Without WW 2 I see South Asia becoming independent by the 1960s

Not so much by British benevolence. Just by economic compulsion - who wants to feed hundreds of millions of people

 

[khansaheeb]

Oh yeah the same well armed battle hardened army that refused to go into Kashmir to battle against invading Indian army in '48.

There is no evidence of Army forcing British to give independence to Indians...these types of myths only exists in the figment of lumber 1s twisted and sick imagination...

So according to your meekly knowledge Indian soldiers didn't defeat Rommel and Mussolini or stop the Japanese in Burma?

 

[khansaheeb]

Jews can't have a crusade.

They have a crusade to mass murder and bark loud until they get a punch in the nose then they go running to their Uncle Sam who has a fistfull of free US tax payer dollars.

Didn't Indians have a measure of self-rule before WW 2 ? British have been steadily devolving power in all dominions since 1900. Definitely WW2 hastened the process. Without WW 2 I see South Asia becoming independent by the 1960s

Not so much by British benevolence. Just by economic compulsion - who wants to feed hundreds of millions of people

Thats why the British starved million of Indians ?

 

[SaadH]

So according to your meekly knowledge Indian soldiers didn't defeat Rommel and Mussolini or stop the Japanese in Burma?

Yeah under the command of their demigods, i.e. their Angrez masters...whom they wouldn't dare to step out of line and defy orders...Sepoys' discipline and holy deference to chain of command is legendary...sepoys had been used to put down native rebellion after rebellion throughout the length and breath of India from Mir Jaffer's crack sepoys to those fighting Tipu, Syed Ahmed and Syed Ismael shaheed to 1857 rebels and pukhtun/baloch tribes, sepoys were and still are the most loyal dogs of the angrez bahadur...

 

[ProudThamizhan]

all this talk of world war, "we won't accept" etc is just empty talk. Weak bravado from some Pakistanis who haven't yet adjusted to their reality.

The only open question is whether Israel goes into Gaza to vaporize all of hamas now or find other ways to do so. Even that is question only because of American intervention to protect slaughter of Palestinian civilians in collateral.

 

[khansaheeb]

Yeah under the command of their demigods, i.e. their Angrez masters...whom they wouldn't dare to step out of line and defy orders...Sepoys' discipline and holy deference to chain of command is legendary...sepoys had been used to put down native rebellion after rebellion throughout the length and breath of India from Mir Jaffer's crack sepoys to those fighting Tipu, Syed Ahmed and Syed Ismael shaheed to 1857 rebels and pukhtun/baloch tribes, sepoys were and still are the most loyal dogs of the angrez bahadur...

So what do say about the two Indian Mutinys? Don't you think the third one with battle hardened Indians troops who have been a formidable opponent?

 

[hatehs]

all this talk of world war, "we won't accept" etc is just empty talk. Weak bravado from some Pakistanis who haven't yet adjusted to their reality.

The only open question is whether Israel goes into Gaza to vaporize all of hamas now or find other ways to do so. Even that is question only because of American intervention to protect slaughter of Palestinian civilians in collateral.

You are a Krishna-resembling Hindu male descended from subjugated Dravidians fantasizing about the slaughter of civilians on the other side of the world. Take a second to reflect on that. If that's not weak bravado, I don't know what is.

When the Saudi prince tells Palestinians that 'you are losers' when they are being bombed, they have lost the narrative

Are you OK, Hindu? They've lost the narrative because the monarch of an authoritarian country allied with the US doesn't agree with them? How'd you come to this conclusion?