Learn from India's freedom struggle': Saudi Prince tells Palestine while attacking Hamas, Israel and the West

[Drizzt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714963616519147762

NEW DELHI: Prince Turki al-Faisal of Saudi Arabia referred to the "insurrection and civil disobedience" that "brought down the British Empire in India" during a recent speech on the current violence in the Middle East in which he condemned both Hamas and Israel for attacking civilians.“

All military occupied people have a right to resist the occupation, even militantly.

I do not support the military option in Palestine.
I prefer civil insurrection and civil disobedience.
This brought down the British Empire in India and the Soviets in Eastern Europe … I condemn actions by Hamas and by the government of Israel. In this conflict there are no heroes, only victims," said Faisal, a former senior government official of Saudi Arabia who once headed the Kingdom's intelligence unit.

The elder statesman made the remarks during his address at the Baker Institute in the US earlier this week."

I categorically condemn Hamas' targeting of civilians. Such targeting belies Hamas' claims to an Islamic identity," Faisal said, adding that Islam prohibits the targeting of innocent civilians, children, women and elderly even in a state of war.

The attack by Hamas has given "the high moral ground to an Israeli government that is universally shunned", the Saudi prince said, adding that it has also given this Israeli government “the excuse to ethnically cleanse Gaza of its citizens and bombing them to oblivion".

Faisal further said the Hamas attack has also sabotaged Saudi Arabia's attempt to move towards a peaceful resolution of the Israel-Palestine row.

An insight into Saudi Arabia's position

The Saudi leader also attacked Western nations for saying that the Hamas attack was unprovoked. "

What more provocation is required to make it provoked than what Israel has done to the Palestinian people for three-quarters of a century," he asked, adding that Israeli forces have been killings Palestinians in a targeted manner, jailing civilians and stealing Palestinian lands.

Prince Turki also condemned Western politicians for "shedding tears when Israelis are killed by Palestinians", but refusing to "even express sorrow when Israelis kill Palestinians".

Faisal's frank speech is being widely acknowledged as the clearest indicator yet of the Saudi leadership's thinking on the situation.

According to political experts, Saudi Arabia's rulers do not view Hamas in good light. In fact, many of the governments in the region share the sentiment.

The rulers of Egypt, Jordan, UAE and Bahrain see Hamas and its revolutionary brand of so-called "political Islam" as a threat to their rule.

Saudi Arabia was well on its way to normalising ties with Israel when Hamas launched its attack on October 7.

Several analysts believe that Hamas's deadly raid into Israel was partly prompted by a desire to derail normalisation that would have left Hamas and Iran sidelined in a new Middle East.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...d-the-west/articleshow/104630093.cms?from=mdr

 

[Abu Shaleh Rumi]

Palestine is too little and the Jews have unconditional crusade grade western support. Gandhism will not work there. Muslim had to remove crusader with violence.
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Wait for the fall of western empire and then...

 

[Olympus81]

Hitler’s Germany did half of the job for Gandhi and Jinnah.

The British had already realized they had to withdraw and colonialism wasn’t sustainable.

If Palestinians resorted to non violence, the Zionists would slowly and surely usurp Palestinian land over decades. Look what happened to West Bank under Fatah. They’re effectively losing land to the Zionists until the remaining Palestinins had to become refugees in Jordan.

 

[indushek]

Holy F - you posted this LOL

Incoming about toilets/radical Hindu etc -- in 9 8 7 6 ---

 

[Foinikas]

Palestine is too little and the Jews have unconditional crusade grade western support. Gandhism will not work there. Muslim had to remove crusader with violence.
.
Wait for the fall of western empire and then...

Jews can't have a crusade.

 

[Abu Shaleh Rumi]

Jews can't have a crusade.

Well, jews western backers are thinking they're doing crusade by supporting jews.

 

[PradoTLC]

 

[Mirzali Khan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714963616519147762

NEW DELHI: Prince Turki al-Faisal of Saudi Arabia referred to the "insurrection and civil disobedience" that "brought down the British Empire in India" during a recent speech on the current violence in the Middle East in which he condemned both Hamas and Israel for attacking civilians.“

All military occupied people have a right to resist the occupation, even militantly.

I do not support the military option in Palestine.
I prefer civil insurrection and civil disobedience.
This brought down the British Empire in India and the Soviets in Eastern Europe … I condemn actions by Hamas and by the government of Israel. In this conflict there are no heroes, only victims," said Faisal, a former senior government official of Saudi Arabia who once headed the Kingdom's intelligence unit.

The elder statesman made the remarks during his address at the Baker Institute in the US earlier this week."

I categorically condemn Hamas' targeting of civilians. Such targeting belies Hamas' claims to an Islamic identity," Faisal said, adding that Islam prohibits the targeting of innocent civilians, children, women and elderly even in a state of war.

The attack by Hamas has given "the high moral ground to an Israeli government that is universally shunned", the Saudi prince said, adding that it has also given this Israeli government “the excuse to ethnically cleanse Gaza of its citizens and bombing them to oblivion".

Faisal further said the Hamas attack has also sabotaged Saudi Arabia's attempt to move towards a peaceful resolution of the Israel-Palestine row.

An insight into Saudi Arabia's position

The Saudi leader also attacked Western nations for saying that the Hamas attack was unprovoked. "

What more provocation is required to make it provoked than what Israel has done to the Palestinian people for three-quarters of a century," he asked, adding that Israeli forces have been killings Palestinians in a targeted manner, jailing civilians and stealing Palestinian lands.

Prince Turki also condemned Western politicians for "shedding tears when Israelis are killed by Palestinians", but refusing to "even express sorrow when Israelis kill Palestinians".

Faisal's frank speech is being widely acknowledged as the clearest indicator yet of the Saudi leadership's thinking on the situation.

According to political experts, Saudi Arabia's rulers do not view Hamas in good light. In fact, many of the governments in the region share the sentiment.

The rulers of Egypt, Jordan, UAE and Bahrain see Hamas and its revolutionary brand of so-called "political Islam" as a threat to their rule.

Saudi Arabia was well on its way to normalising ties with Israel when Hamas launched its attack on October 7.

Several analysts believe that Hamas's deadly raid into Israel was partly prompted by a desire to derail normalisation that would have left Hamas and Iran sidelined in a new Middle East.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...d-the-west/articleshow/104630093.cms?from=mdr

Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was the primary reason for the Soviet Union's collapse

The British Empire was severely weakened by World War 2.

 

[ThunderCat]

Translation: Learn from uncle Adolph. He freed the subcontinent and crippled the British Empire.

 

[SaadH]

Hitler’s Germany did half of the job for Gandhi and Jinnah.

The British had already realized they had to withdraw and colonialism wasn’t sustainable.

If Palestinians resorted to non violence, the Zionists would slowly and surely usurp Palestinian land over decades. Look what happened to West Bank under Fatah. They’re effectively losing land to the Zionists until the remaining Palestinins had to become refugees in Jordan.

Hitler did all the heavy lifting and the rest of it was taken care of by Truman who forced British to wind down their empire.

Gandhi's passive resistance had zero impact on India's independence...

 

[firohot4321]

Issue was that British derived revenue from India and needed it's people cooperation and services to empire

Disobedience caused it's rule less profitable

Israel doesn't need Palestinian services it only wants their land

Then also ww2 also weakened Brits and French forcing them to release the colonies

 

[epebble]

Palestine is too little and the Jews have unconditional crusade grade western support. Gandhism will not work there. Muslim had to remove crusader with violence.
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Wait for the fall of western empire and then...

Your argument is valid now. But, if they were fortunate enough to have a Gandhi or a Marin Luther King Jr or a Nelson Mandela in 1948, the history might have been different. All three faced adversaries far more powerful than Israel of 1948 vintage and prevailed. On the flip side, with violent option, Palestinians have failed spectacularly. When the Saudi prince tells Palestinians that 'you are losers' when they are being bombed, they have lost the narrative.

 

[xeuss]

Wonder why didn't Saudis try civil disobedience in Yemen instead of bombing the civilians for like 10 years.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

It's not the same.

Did Israel organize and create democracy in Palestine? Britain did that in India.

Are Palestinians the majority in Israel's military? British Indian army was majority Indian.

Did Britain deny the existence of India and Indians? Israel denies the existence of Palestine and Palestinians. I have come across comments such as send them back to Arabia. In Israel, they call them Israeli Arabs.

Palestinians are in apartheid worse than in South Africa.

 

[epebble]

Hitler did all the heavy lifting and the rest of it was taken care of by Truman who forced British to wind down their empire.

Gandhi's passive resistance had zero impact on India's independence...

Gandhi was the role model for Martin Luther King Jr. in USA and Nelson Mandela in South Africa. They didn't have uncle Hitler to piggyback on.