LEAKED: Pakistan Army Requirements for Tender of 75,000 New 7.62x39mm Rifles (May 16, 2017)

[AbuzarIlyas]

An older post from May 16, 2017. I don't know whether it is already posted or not.
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Thanks to a recent leak exclusively to The Firearm Blog, we have now become aware of a new tender for rifles issued by the Pakistani government. According to the tender document, the Pakistani Army is looking for 75,000 “modern 7.62x39mm caliber weapons”, presumably as part of the program to replace their aging fleet of G3 and Type 56 assault rifles. The specifications for the tender are given below:



The document that we have is not actually a raw tender, rather it is a manufacturer’s reply to a tender. As such, the document is divided into two parts. On the left of every sheet are the requirements as disseminated by the Pakistani government. On the right are the characteristics of the rifle from the company that is being solicited, according to its manufacturer. Essentially, on the left we have the solicitation, and on the right the reply.

Based on the characteristics of the rifle as listed on the right side of the document, it seems we are looking at either Česká Zbrojovka’s (CZ) or Beretta’s submission, with me leaning towards the former. We know that at least five companies are courting this Pakistani contract: FN, Kalashnikov Concern, CZ, Beretta, and Zastava. We can eliminate FN, as they have so far only offered the SCAR-H in 7.62x51mm. Zastava’s and Kalashnikov Concern’s offerings (the M21 and AK-103) do not meet the overall length criteria given by the manufacturer on page 1. That leaves Beretta and CZ as possibles. However, up till now Beretta has only offered their 7.62x51mm ARX-200, not their 7.62x39mm ARX-160A3, and it is also not obvious that Beretta offers a magazine with round counter for the latter rifle. This leaves CZ with their 7.62x39mm 806 Bren 2 as the most likely company for the rifle on the right.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...quirements-tender-75000-new-7-62x39mm-rifles/

 

[Path-Finder]

you are very late to the party!

 

[Papa Dragon]

I thought you guys finalized the HK-416!!

 

[Reichsmarschall]

I thought you guys finalized the HK-416!!

Nope Scar is the best rifles
@Zarvan

 

[Zarvan]

I thought you guys finalized the HK-416!!

HK was never in competition so no question of it being selected

 

[SecularNationalist]

So yet no one knows what rifle is being selected.
This topic is becoming annoying

 

[Viking 63]

This drama continues !!

 

[!eon]

LEAKED:

 

[SecularNationalist]

And just 75000 rifles for such a big army of half million active personnel and another half million in reserves ?

 

[SQ8]

 

[PAR 5]

This is what is referred to as a COMPLIANCE MATRIX to Pakistan Army's GENERAL STAFF REQUIREMENT (GSR) as per points under PARAMETERS heading. Such a compliance matrix is submitted by the manufacturer at the start of the paper evaluation of the rifle systems. Looking at this LATE LEAK I imagine the frustration of the manufacturer who leaked it on spending millions of Rupees on trials in Pakistan and getting NADA at the end. Like I said in the other post of the same subject, Rifle project in Pakistan has become a rouse and it has affected the credibility of the Army in the eyes of foreign companies who were charged even for the bullets fired and the lunch, dinner, tea and biscuits served while trials as well.

 

[Path-Finder]

This is what is referred to as a COMPLIANCE MATRIX to Pakistan Army's GENERAL STAFF REQUIREMENT (GSR) as per points under PARAMETERS heading. Such a compliance matrix is submitted by the manufacturer at the start of the paper evaluation of the rifle systems. Looking at this LATE LEAK I imagine the frustration of the manufacturer who leaked it on spending millions of Rupees on trials in Pakistan and getting NADA at the end. Like I said in the other post of the same subject, Rifle project in Pakistan has become a rouse and it has affected the credibility of the Army in the eyes of foreign companies who were charged even for the bullets fired and the lunch, dinner, tea and biscuits served while trials as well.

Oh dear!

 

[YeBeWarned]

Scar was the best Rifle in the Tenders
@Path-Finder @Ulla @Arsalan @Hell hound @Gryphon

 

[Zarvan]

An older post from May 16, 2017. I don't know whether it is already posted or not.
​

Thanks to a recent leak exclusively to The Firearm Blog, we have now become aware of a new tender for rifles issued by the Pakistani government. According to the tender document, the Pakistani Army is looking for 75,000 “modern 7.62x39mm caliber weapons”, presumably as part of the program to replace their aging fleet of G3 and Type 56 assault rifles. The specifications for the tender are given below:



The document that we have is not actually a raw tender, rather it is a manufacturer’s reply to a tender. As such, the document is divided into two parts. On the left of every sheet are the requirements as disseminated by the Pakistani government. On the right are the characteristics of the rifle from the company that is being solicited, according to its manufacturer. Essentially, on the left we have the solicitation, and on the right the reply.

Based on the characteristics of the rifle as listed on the right side of the document, it seems we are looking at either Česká Zbrojovka’s (CZ) or Beretta’s submission, with me leaning towards the former. We know that at least five companies are courting this Pakistani contract: FN, Kalashnikov Concern, CZ, Beretta, and Zastava. We can eliminate FN, as they have so far only offered the SCAR-H in 7.62x51mm. Zastava’s and Kalashnikov Concern’s offerings (the M21 and AK-103) do not meet the overall length criteria given by the manufacturer on page 1. That leaves Beretta and CZ as possibles. However, up till now Beretta has only offered their 7.62x51mm ARX-200, not their 7.62x39mm ARX-160A3, and it is also not obvious that Beretta offers a magazine with round counter for the latter rifle. This leaves CZ with their 7.62x39mm 806 Bren 2 as the most likely company for the rifle on the right.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...quirements-tender-75000-new-7-62x39mm-rifles/

It's already posted in fact I think I was the one who posted this

 

[django]

It's already posted in fact I think I was the one who posted this

Indeed you did.