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Leading German politician calls on France to share its nuclear deterrence

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The idea has stirred the German political scene for several months now. In August 2018, believing that NATO was "weakened" by the attitude and the words of Donald Trump, the American president, Christian Hacke, a specialist in international relations having practiced at the University of the Bundeswehr, affirmed in a tribune, that "national defense on the basis of nuclear deterrence should be a priority given the new transatlantic uncertainties and potential confrontations. And said that Germany needed the nuclear bomb.

This prospect was brushed aside by Wolfgang Ischinger, a former diplomat and currently chairman of the Munich security conference. According to him, Germany should not give up its status as a non-nuclear power to become the "gravedigger of the international non-proliferation regime." On the other hand, he will later argue, a "Europeanisation of French nuclear potential would indeed be a very good idea in the medium term. "

Ischinger said the French nuclear deterrent should "benefit" the European Union in return for a financial contribution to its development and implementation from the member states.

"If the costly French nuclear potential were to be developed, we cannot expect France to pay this alone from its own budget. The other partners within the EU, who would benefit from this protection, should contribute accordingly, "said Ischinger in February 2019. He also took care to specify that control of this deterrent must remain in the hands of the French president and not be entrusted to an EU committee. "A condition that we must accept! ", He had emphasized.

But on February 3, a close to the German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, went even further. Johann Wadephul, vice-chairman of the parliamentary group of the Christian Democratic Union [CDU], said that Germany should "consider cooperation with France with regard to nuclear weapons" and "be ready to participate in the force nuclear deterrent with its own capabilities and means. "

Only, in return, France would lose control of its strike force… because, continued Mr. Wadephul, the latter should "be placed under a joint command of the European Union or NATO".

Except that NATO already has its own nuclear plans. German plans, moreover, with Panavia Tornado fighter-bombers capable of carrying the American tactical nuclear bomb B-61. Note that the control of these weapons [and therefore of their weapon code] is the responsibility of the United States, according to the so-called double-key principle.

As for the idea of placing French deterrence under European command, it is simply utopian. Who would make the decision, if any, to press the "button"? Who would decide what about the patrol of the French Navy nuclear launchers [SNLE] or the missions of the Rafale B of the Strategic Air Force [FAS]? Who would work on the capacity needs implied by a strike force? And with what experience?

"President Emmanuel Macron has called on us to dare more for Europe more than once. He could now show that he too is ready for it. It will take time, but the debate has to start now, "said Wadephul in an interview with Tagesspiegel. "The reality is that we need nuclear deterrence. It is in the German interest to have an influence on the strategy that protects us. It would be wise to try the same with France, "he insisted.

As a reminder, French nuclear doctrine aims to make the national territory a "sanctuary" while emphasizing the need to defend the "vital interests of the Nation". And, on this point, the 2017 Strategic Review explains that "the definition of our vital interests cannot be limited to the national level alone, because France does not conceive its defense strategy in isolation, even in the nuclear field . "

http://www.opex360.com/2020/02/03/u...la-france-a-partager-sa-dissuasion-nucleaire/
 
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No nukes for the Germans...Never.Ever.

I don't think fools like Macron would even think about giving the controls or let the Germans have any say in our nuclear deterrence,let alone bunch of bureaucrats in Brussels.
 
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I don't think fools like Macron would even think about giving the controls/give any say of our nuclear deterrence to the Germans,let alone bunch of bureaucrats in Brussels.
Inshallah. But Nowadays... Being sure is a costly bet...
 
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I think a compromise could happen like a nuclear sharing program. Germans give the French some bases to handle their French nukes and in return Germany pays the money.
 
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Fair enough , German scientists were the pioneers of the nuclear technology. If not for the idiot Hitler , Germany would have been the technology superpower instead of USA
 
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Pakistan-Turkey should share nuclear deterrence :D

Meh, I know I know....Pakistan is not in any position to do that yet. Too weak economically, politically, and militarily to project this sort of geopolitical alignment on world stage.
 
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I think a compromise could happen like a nuclear sharing program. Germans give the French some bases to handle their French nukes and in return Germany pays the money.

You can't share a nuclear deterrence. However,that doesn't mean France couldn't provide a nuclear umbrella to certain European countries,or to all the European Union,we can negociate but it should be only if it is in our interest and based on what the others have to propose.

And this deterrence (all weapons and systems) should remain only under French command and French decision makings. The rest is wishful thinking.
 
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Pakistan-Turkey should share nuclear deterrence :D

Meh, I know I know....Pakistan is not in any position to do that yet. Too weak economically, politically, and militarily to project this sort of geopolitical alignment on world stage.

Actually just like North Korea, Pakistan is in the best position to project its nuclear deterrent. With an economy so weak we can't be hurt much more by sanctions, and our trade relations are weak too. If we actually started nuclear testing we can force India to the table over Kashmir and show the world their plight. Children are being tortured there. Even the US would be reluctant to launch a large-scale war with us to eliminate our nukes because there's a risk we may retaliate against their regional bases. Imagine the recent Iran strikes in Iraq but with nukes.
 
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Why does Germany need French nukes? don't they have like a 100 or something nukes in their American bases?

Maybe that has changed but last I read, Americans had nukes stationed in Germany, Netherlands and even Belgium.
 
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Very good i hope germany can become nuclear state
Germans should cooperate with turks joint nuke program is not a bad idea
 
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Why does Germany need French nukes? don't they have like a 100 or something nukes in their American bases?

Maybe that has changed but last I read, Americans had nukes stationed in Germany, Netherlands and even Belgium.

Because its under american command. Germans thinking since the French are close allies and partners maybe France could share but I dont think the French will to be honest and it depends on a whole lot of factors. The French are not gonna go to the Germans and say here is some free nukes.
 
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